torrtias and carbs?

[ck85abc]

Im trying to eat equal portions of carbs and protien. My tortias and 100% whole gran. like 16 carbs in them. But 13 of the carbs are fibers. Does that mean my body is really only getting 3 carbs per tortia? If so I am not getting enough carbs and I need to eat differently.

[sawastea]

Originally posted by ck85abc
Im trying to eat equal portions of carbs and protien. My tortias and 100% whole gran. like 16 carbs in them. But 13 of the carbs are fibers. Does that mean my body is really only getting 3 carbs per tortia? If so I am not getting enough carbs and I need to eat differently.

Doesn't work like that...You're only getting 3 net carbs, of which affect your insulin. Certain 'carbs' have no affect on your insulin. Fiber and glycerine are a few.

"Insulin is essential for the proper metabolism and proper maintenance level of blood sugar. Secretion is primarily dependent upon the concentration of blood glucose, an increase of blood sugar bringing about an increase in the secretion of insulin. Inadequate secretion of insulin results in improper metabolism or carbohydrates and fats and brings on diabetes characterized by glucose accumulating in the blood and wastefully excreting in the urine. Various forms of insulin may be prepared and administered to temporarily treat a diabetic individual."

[nathan101085]

Fiber is great!!! It keeps insulin levels under control, keeps you regular, keeps your system clear of excess buildup, promotes fat loss through this, ive heard it can even slow down digestion speed but i dunno, anyway though no it doesnt count as a normal "carb" your body will not get glucose from it. Also be careful with that 1 to 1 ratio, I wouldnt reccomend that if you do cardio or HIIT in addition to weight training.

[JustDrew]

Slap some peanut butter in a tortilla and you've got a great snack!

[Josh37]

Originally posted by JustDrew
Slap some peanut butter in a tortilla and you've got a great snack!

Carbs and fat are not a good idea when trying to build muscle.

[Younglifter14]

Originally posted by Josh37
Carbs and fat are not a good idea when trying to build muscle.

if you wre reading, youd realize that there is very little insulin response since its mainly fiber.

[nathan101085]

Carbs and fat are not a good idea when trying to build muscle.


Josh can you please explain this quote in greater detail, did you mean to write that or is it somehow out of context?

[NewSc2]

Originally posted by nathan101085
Carbs and fat are not a good idea when trying to build muscle.


Josh can you please explain this quote in greater detail, did you mean to write that or is it somehow out of context?

I think he's just trying to say that protein is what mainly builds muscle, and looking at nutrition from that standpoint.

[ck85abc]

The reason for this post. We all know we need the carbs. But say I eat 2 tortillas with half a can of tuna in each. I am hardly getting any real carbs. Should I mabey add a piece of fruit to it?

My primary goal right now is to cut body fat percentage.

[newlifter87]

Originally posted by NewSc2
I think he's just trying to say that protein is what mainly builds muscle, and looking at nutrition from that standpoint.

No hes saying the general notion that carbs and fat lead to a higher percent of fat storage

[newlifter87]

Originally posted by ck85abc
The reason for this post. We all know we need the carbs. But say I eat 2 tortillas with half a can of tuna in each. I am hardly getting any real carbs. Should I mabey add a piece of fruit to it?

My primary goal right now is to cut body fat percentage.

Not fruit, But maybe try to find a better source for complex carbs, because although fiber is great its not going to help you build muscle as much as a real complex carb would.

[ck85abc]

So why will happen if someone eats tortillas and tuna 3 hours before they lift? Are they going to loose all the sugar in there body and end up burning muscle and fat for energy?

[newlifter87]

No its a good source of nutrients but why not add a quick Pre workout shake in there.

[ck85abc]

Never thought about pre workout shape. I do use whey post shake though.

[nathan101085]

If you dont eat carbs before a workout assuming you arent in ketosis then where you get energy will be 1 of two places (this is for the actual motions\strain involved in lifting) if uve been eating a good amount of carbs and your glycogen stores are pretty well full (these are where carbs go to be stored) then you will pull directly from them. if you are in a deprived carb state then your body will strip amino acids from protein and burn the whats left as glucose. The upside to this that process (protein->glucose) takes calories which means more caloric defeciet when cutting and it also means that you wont have high levels on insulin in your blood which means your body will have to burn more fat calories as a source of fuel, really though it all depends on caloric intake wether or not those calories come from dietary fat or stored BF. The downside to the process (protein->glucose) is that the same hormone used in the process (coritsol) is also used when it comes to catabolizing ones own muscle so if not enough amino acids are present and not enough carbs are present then to get that glucose your body will release its cortisol on your actual muscle tissue turning it into glucose so you can work out, a little self defeating. Again however its calories because even with a higher level of insulin in your blood and less calories from fat being burned more calories from carbs are being burned so later in the day you'll be foreced to burn those fat cals from dietary fats and if theres a caloric defeciet present and you dont have high levels of cortisol chomping on your muscles then you'll get those extra cals from BF just like before.

[Josh37]

Originally posted by nathan101085
Carbs and fat are not a good idea when trying to build muscle.


Josh can you please explain this quote in greater detail, did you mean to write that or is it somehow out of context?

Sure:

http://johnberardi.com/articles/nutr...sseating_2.htm

Avoid meals containing fats and carbs

Unfortunately, this is the typical meal of the Western diet. As a result, it's no wonder that obesity is an epidemic. Meals with a high carbohydrate content in combination with high-fat meals can actually promote a synergistic insulin release when compared to the two alone. High fat with high-carb meals represent the worst possible case scenario.

Now, some people have argued that fat lowers the glycemic index of foods and should therefore be included in carb meals. But remember, the glycemic index only gives a measure of glucose response to a meal, not insulin response. And sometimes the glucose responses to a meal and the insulin responses to a meal aren't well correlated. So although you might be slowing the rate of glucose absorption into the blood by adding fat to your meals, you'll promote high blood levels of fats, carbs, and insulin. And that's a no-no!

[rottie]

Originally posted by Josh37
Sure:

http://johnberardi.com/articles/nutr...sseating_2.htm

Avoid meals containing fats and carbs

Unfortunately, this is the typical meal of the Western diet. As a result, it's no wonder that obesity is an epidemic. Meals with a high carbohydrate content in combination with high-fat meals can actually promote a synergistic insulin release when compared to the two alone. High fat with high-carb meals represent the worst possible case scenario.

Now, some people have argued that fat lowers the glycemic index of foods and should therefore be included in carb meals. But remember, the glycemic index only gives a measure of glucose response to a meal, not insulin response. And sometimes the glucose responses to a meal and the insulin responses to a meal aren't well correlated. So although you might be slowing the rate of glucose absorption into the blood by adding fat to your meals, you'll promote high blood levels of fats, carbs, and insulin. And that's a no-no!

agreed on the fats and carbs meals, but i think the bigger reason why obesity is so rampant is lack of exercise. The television has done more to aid in obesity than all the fast food restaurants, and potato chips in the world in my opinion.

[nathan101085]

I read it as you were saying to avoid eating the macronutrients fat and carb if your looking to put on muscle

[Lynne]

I'll have to post my homemade flour tortilla recipe. Once you try them, you'll never want the store bought stuff again. I use whole wheat flour and olive oil in mine. They puff up really thick, too. Going to make Mexican food for hubbies birthday next week. Too bad I won't be eating any of it! Boo hoo.

Lynne