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    Question When should I take Glutamine?????

    I would like to know when I should take Glutamine, on the lable it says to take it before my workout and before I go to bed. Any advice, or should I follow the label??
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    yea, you should..i normally take it b4 working out then after then b4 bed..


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    5g on waking 5g before workout 5g post workout 20min before protein and 5g before bed

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    i have enough for 10g/day. I though to preserve muscle during cutting I have to/should take it before and straight after cardio.

    Is this right ?
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    before , during(if you want) and after cardio
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    ox you take your protein, 20 mins after working out? I was told a while ago, it should be taken immediatly after workout, although taking it when i got home was more convienent.. So on glutamine you should wait before taking in the protein?

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    Originally posted by andy1
    ox you take your protein, 20 mins after working out? I was told a while ago, it should be taken immediatly after workout, although taking it when i got home was more convienent.. So on glutamine you should wait before taking in the protein?

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    yeah, there is a windo of about 1 hr for u to take your protien for optimal results, i take my carb drink (100g of maltodextrin and water) + glutamine+bcaa as soon as i finish the last rep of my last set, then after i have my shower i down my shake, Never take your aminos and glutamine or creatine with protein becuase it impares absorption becuase they all "compete" for the same carrier proteins in the cells lineing the stomach.

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    creatine / protein together you shouldnt do that?, ive read everywhere including mags, especially in muscular development mag which ireally like because they talk about gear, 50 whey, 50 dextrose/malto, 5 g creatine creates a great anabolic shake after working out? correct me if im wrong though bro

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    im gonna dig up the article posted by fonz on elite on insulin and nutrient partitioning which explains everything in some detail. But its basic biology that there is only a certian amount of carrier proteins in the cell membranes and aminos and creatine all compete for the same sites, so if taken together not as much would get absorbed as if they were take on there own.

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    makes sense, right now im taking 50g whey, 50g dextrose immediatly after my workout , im fine in doing so right? untill i start cutting when ill be back on glutamine.

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    Originally posted by andy1
    makes sense, right now im taking 50g whey, 50g dextrose immediatly after my workout , im fine in doing so right? untill i start cutting when ill be back on glutamine.

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    yeah thats fine, but when u start cutting get the glutanin down 20min before the whey, a trick to help improve absorption is to dissolve it into some water at room temp and take it just before u finish your cardio/workout, I cant remeber why it improves absorption it was in mens health and i dont hvae the issue any more

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    yea the water at room temperature, i read about that long ago, nothing to do with the glutamine though, just the fact that warm water digests faster.

    So upon waking, 6am 5g glutamine, after my cardio which would be half hour or so later, 5g again? Then later on in my workout should i take before or after, because of taking it before bed, would be too many doses. If you could help me out with a glut schedule id appreciate it bro.

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    Take 5 as soon as possible after u wake, then another 5g after your morning cardio, if your gann hit the weights later just take it after the weights and then 5g before bed, cortisol levels dont rise so sharply after weight training as they do after cardio on an empty stomach.

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    Ok, take 5 grms of glutamine 4/5 times a day in btw meals.
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    U guys sure????

    Going through that much glutamine could kill of some major $$$ really fast. I think it said somewhere that you should take Glutamine before u workout, then that way it won;t get in the way of the creatine and protein post workout meal. Any thoughts on this......
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    well, creatine and glutamine do not work together,that is glutamine is only for cutting and wont be absorbed on a high caloric diet and creatine is for bulking.
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    creatine isn't for bulking and glutamine isn't for cutting...you can take them anytime you want and yield results. and as far as I know you should take it all together in one shake. As of now it is believed to either take half of your shake 15min before workout and the rest after OR sip it slowly during the workout for maximum results.
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    For D audi,

    I think you are wrong and i dont mean it in a mean way.
    What would be the point ? Glutamine is not absorbed when bulking and creatine bloats you up when cutting. I see no use for both of them at the same time.
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    During exercise glutamine may be used to create energy by the muscle cells and thus needs to be replaced post exercise. Also glutamine is essential in the transport of nitrogen, excretion of ammonia as the result of gluconeogenesis, and is used for energy by the immune system and intestinal cells. Creatine does not bloat me up when I use it, jeez - how are you taking it? I've heard of it bloating people up but I've never experienced the problem. Glutamine is ideal for cutting due to minimal muscle loss when one is in a cutting stage but is also beneficial at any time, especially post workout. Sorry if you think I'm wrong but maybe if you do a little research your opinions may change have a nice day!
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    Originally posted by D-Audi
    During exercise glutamine may be used to create energy by the muscle cells and thus needs to be replaced post exercise. Also glutamine is essential in the transport of nitrogen, excretion of ammonia as the result of gluconeogenesis, and is used for energy by the immune system and intestinal cells. Creatine does not bloat me up when I use it, jeez - how are you taking it? I've heard of it bloating people up but I've never experienced the problem. Glutamine is ideal for cutting due to minimal muscle loss when one is in a cutting stage but is also beneficial at any time, especially post workout. Sorry if you think I'm wrong but maybe if you do a little research your opinions may change have a nice day!
    your 100% wrong on the " should take them both at the same time" part

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    All the recent studies I've read have concluded to take them at the same time. It was believed that they competed for cellular receptors but I don't think that's the case - I'll have to dig up some papers/urls..I'll post when I find....
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    taking creatine with protein and carbs has been proven to be just as effective(and sometimes more) in producing creatines efficacy than just taking creatine and carbs.....but you have a point witht he glutamine though.


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    For Audi,

    I think using both at the same time is a waste of money. Glutamine is just not absorbed on a high caloric diet. Probably it wont hurt but it wont do much and you could be saving it for your cutting phase.
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    This article will show you when to take some of the top supplements and how to get the most out of them.By: Shawn LeBrunSep 30, 2004EMAILMORESHAREIntroductionOut of the hundreds of e-mails I get each week, more than half are from people who are interested in knowing which supplements to take or what the best way is to take the supplements they're currently using.So this article will show you when to take some of the top supplements and how to get the most out of them.Creatine, glutamine, and protein are 3 of the top supplements for gaining lean muscle and strength.But what are the best times to take these proven supplements?Here's what I've found personally works best for me as well as tracking clients progress using these 3 supplements (which, by the way, are about the only 3 I recommend to clients, other than protein/meal replacements, EFA's and a good multi-vitamin).There's a lot of conflicting research that shows creatine and glutamine may compete directly with one another for cell transport and absorption.That's because both creatine and glutamine use the same transport method (sodium) to be absorbed by the body, so there's a chance that one will get absorbed more than the other.Even though there are different theories as to whether this is true or not, here's my thought:By-pass the entire problem by just splitting up the timing a little bit.Supplement Consumption TimingHere are the best times to take these 3 proven supplements: Creatine - Learn More Best taken 1/2 hour or so BEFORE a workout and again RIGHT after a workout.What I do is take a creatine/juice/protein drink about a half hour before a workout and than another shake right after.This "bracketing" technique helps set up an anabolic (muscle-building) state for your muscles and helps prevent muscle breakdown from a workout (catabolism).Other than these 2 opportune times, you can add another creatine serving or two any time throughout the day.I usually recommend 25 to 30 grams of creatine on a loading phase and 10-20 grams a day on a maintenance phase.[ View All Creatine Products ] Glutamine - Learn More Definitely take glutamine right before bed.This is where the overwhelming research shows the value of glutamine raising growth hormone levels significantly by taking 5 grams before bed.Also, another great time is upon waking, when your muscles have been without significant nutrition for up to 6-8 hours.Another good time for glutamine is about a half hour or hour after working out.This helps in the recovery/recuperation process from demanding workouts.So, creatine definitely before and after your workout and glutamine right before bed and right upon waking.
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    Unnecessary.
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    Originally Posted by lVlaKaVeLi View Post
    Unnecessary.
    I take one glutamine cap a day one hour after my protein shake.

    Taking 5 caps a day is crazy and will also send you broke.
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