Those Pro-Palestine protests at universities are going to get out of hand

[mtpockets]

I think the police are going to crack some melons soon!

That's all I got for now..


Any thoughts?

[Karl_Hungus]

I think the police are going to crack some melons soon!

That's all I got for now..


Any thoughts?

Yes, I believe the wanton and gratuitous cracking of melons by the police is long overdue.

[Mark1T]

Been out of hand. Agree, melons need to be cracked.

[SuicideGripMe]

They're the same people that shut down supposed right-wing speakers... they don't want freedom, they want to push their agenda. I'd say, develop a capitalist/American inquisition and boot the people that want to see the state harmed (not serious?).

[mtpockets]

Foreign students could face harsher penalties than suspension for anti-Israel rioting: DHS




The Department of Homeland Security (DHS) on Wednesday confirmed that foreign students could potentially face deportation if they are suspended from their courses while on a student visa — just as anti-Israel protests have engulfed Columbia University and other American colleges.

With anti-Israel protests taking place at Columbia and college campuses across the country, which have included antisemitic rhetoric and threats to Jewish students, classes have gone hybrid at Columbia due to safety concerns.

It has raised questions about whether some students, who may be on student visas, could have them revoked or be deported. Sen. Marsha Blackburn, R-Tenn., posted on X calling for the removal of foreign nationals backing Hamas.

[Payton1221]

Silly me. I thought antisemitism was essentially eradicated in our enlightened age. I heard someone quip that people who own "Hate has no home here" t-shirts are some of the same people who have very hateful things to say about the Jewish nation.

[Mark1T]

As suspected, Anti-Israel protester admits she doesn't know why she's at NYU protest

https://www.foxnews.com/media/watch-...hy-nyu-protest

Group Think is powerful.

[7Seconds]

There’s a strong generational divide between most college aged adults and older demographics with their respective support for Palestine and Israel. College students seem to want their colleges to boycott and divest from corporations that are benefiting from Israel's actions in Gaza. More than 30 states have laws on the books that prohibit any institution receiving state funding from boycotting Israeli businesses. Those two things are in strong opposition to each other.

Given the complexity of the Israel/Palestine situation, there are a lot of complicated motivations at play ranging from a deeply personal investment in the situation, to young people exorcizing political freedoms for a cause they sympathize with but hold no direct stake in. In either case, people are very passionate about where they fall on the issue meaning any protest in any direction can feel like a powder keg to onlookers. I won't say too much on this part of the subject, but there is a rich history of politically left college protests facing greater resistance in the media and by local authorities creating a feedback loop that puts protests like these in the news. People protest things all the time (especially in regards to Israel and Palestine), you only hear about the ones media groups think make for exciting stories.

ETA: Yes Karl, I sympathize with protestors.

[steffo99]

Just find it strange/interesting that so many need to take a side in various conflicts. In this (geo) area, as well as in eastern europe atm, I find both sides have done/are doing disgusting things, so feel no need to side with anyone, yet this is what seems to be broadcasted out all the time that you need to support this and that or else you're bad. If I see two *******s fighting each other in real life, I don't feel any need to take a side. Same thing here. If anything I can side with any civilians just minding their business and getting the worst of it.

When Mark is fighting beavers with an unfair advantages I do feel bad for the little guys though.

[mtpockets]

The University of Southern California canceled its main commencement ceremony as universities around the U.S. cracked down on intensifying pro-Palestinian protests. USC officials cited the time required to put in place new security measures for the 65,000-person event planned for May.

Some bitches need to be sent back to the sand box.

[7Seconds]

Just find it strange/interesting that so many need to take a side in various conflicts. In this (geo) area, as well as in eastern europe atm, I find both sides have done/are doing disgusting things, so feel no need to side with anyone, yet this is what seems to be broadcasted out all the time that you need to support this and that or else you're bad. If I see two *******s fighting each other in real life, I don't feel any need to take a side. Same thing here. If anything I can side with any civilians just minding their business and getting the worst of it.

When Mark is fighting beavers with an unfair advantages I do feel bad for the little guys though.

The issue many folks have is the United States Government has taken a side. After the Second Intifada, pro-Palestinian groups started pushing for BDS (Boycott, Divest, Sanction) to put economic pressure on Israel to actually follow-through on a two-state solution. Israel reacted by putting international political pressure to enact anti-BDS laws to prevent boycotts from happening. The Israeli argument is that BDS is inherently anti-semitic. The Palestinian argument is that it is a political action and not racially motivated.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Intifada

American politicians have overwhelmingly come down on the side of Israel for geopolitical reasons, and Israel's lobbying efforts are significantly stronger than Palestine.

[steffo99]

The issue many folks have is the United States Government has taken a side. After the Second Intifada, pro-Palestinian groups started pushing for BDS (Boycott, Divest, Sanction) to put economic pressure on Israel to actually follow-through on a two-state solution. Israel reacted by putting international political pressure to enact anti-BDS laws to prevent boycotts from happening. The Israeli argument is that BDS is inherently anti-semitic. The Palestinian argument is that it is a political action and not racially motivated.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Intifada

American politicians have overwhelmingly come down on the side of Israel for geopolitical reasons, and Israel's lobbying efforts are significantly stronger than Palestine.

I see, I'm just reacting to media/social media etc and how it seems in most conflicts with complexities, there are pushes for the masses of uninformed citizens thousands of miles away, and decades of history separated from being informed, then being expected to take a side with great confidence. Maybe not as much here, but definatley in the Ukraine vs Russia deal.

Personally always felt some sympathy for the palestinian people and their plight, but after those first attacks by Hamas, and seeing support for it all over the world in demonstrations, and that people condemning hamas attacks even over here, got boo'd or silenced at those meets, it becomes impossible to hold the same position. I tried to separate the two (people vs hamas) , but after seeing so many civilians supporting hamas and having the fact that they elected them, it becomes difficult. Still think the Israeli's have acted as extreme *******s as well on many if not most occassions.

Edit: Remember doing a paper on the Intifada in 8th grade (1988). Now thinking some other kid write the same one in 2088, 2188 and beyond.

[SuicideGripMe]

There’s a strong generational divide between most college aged adults and older demographics with their respective support for Palestine and Israel. College students seem to want their colleges to boycott and divest from corporations that are benefiting from Israel's actions in Gaza. More than 30 states have laws on the books that prohibit any institution receiving state funding from boycotting Israeli businesses. Those two things are in strong opposition to each other.

Given the complexity of the Israel/Palestine situation, there are a lot of complicated motivations at play ranging from a deeply personal investment in the situation, to young people exorcizing political freedoms for a cause they sympathize with but hold no direct stake in. In either case, people are very passionate about where they fall on the issue meaning any protest in any direction can feel like a powder keg to onlookers. I won't say too much on this part of the subject, but there is a rich history of politically left college protests facing greater resistance in the media and by local authorities creating a feedback loop that puts protests like these in the news. People protest things all the time (especially in regards to Israel and Palestine), you only hear about the ones media groups think make for exciting stories.

ETA: Yes Karl, I sympathize with protestors.

Palestine wants a 2 state system after initially denying the initial offer of a two state system and getting their Arab neighbors to invade Israel to destroy it and create a one state of Palestine. For decades, Israel has defeated her enemies and now Palestine is crying that it's unfair. Then, Palestine allied with Saddam Hussein and pissed off the whole Arab region and threw their lot in with the Iranians... Even the Kuwaitis butchered Palestinians in the streets following the Gulf War.

The sad fact is, the vast majority of Palestinian people aren't responsible for the pseudo-terrorist government but they are the victims of it. That however does not mean Israel should kowtow to terrorist organizations. Consistently, the Palestinian "government" has failed to use diplomacy and peace and their sins have massive consequences for the people of the region.

[Karl_Hungus]

As suspected, Anti-Israel protester admits she doesn't know why she's at NYU protest

https://www.foxnews.com/media/watch-...hy-nyu-protest

Group Think is powerful.

Not surprised -- protesting for many is simply a way to feel part of a social group while at the same time propping yourself up as being morally superior to your fellow students. Rebels with a phony cause. I would be very surprised if any of these kids knew anything about the conflict or had any real principled views on the topic.

As an aside, it seems like Columbia students are getting dumber. I am guessing it has a lot to do with getting rid of the standardized tests.

[Mark1T]

There’s a strong generational divide between most college aged adults and older demographics with their respective support for Palestine and Israel. College students seem to want their colleges to boycott and divest from corporations that are benefiting from Israel's actions in Gaza. More than 30 states have laws on the books that prohibit any institution receiving state funding from boycotting Israeli businesses. Those two things are in strong opposition to each other.

Given the complexity of the Israel/Palestine situation, there are a lot of complicated motivations at play ranging from a deeply personal investment in the situation, to young people exorcizing political freedoms for a cause they sympathize with but hold no direct stake in. In either case, people are very passionate about where they fall on the issue meaning any protest in any direction can feel like a powder keg to onlookers. I won't say too much on this part of the subject, but there is a rich history of politically left college protests facing greater resistance in the media and by local authorities creating a feedback loop that puts protests like these in the news. People protest things all the time (especially in regards to Israel and Palestine), you only hear about the ones media groups think make for exciting stories.

ETA: Yes Karl, I sympathize with protestors.

The issue many folks have is the United States Government has taken a side. After the Second Intifada, pro-Palestinian groups started pushing for BDS (Boycott, Divest, Sanction) to put economic pressure on Israel to actually follow-through on a two-state solution. Israel reacted by putting international political pressure to enact anti-BDS laws to prevent boycotts from happening. The Israeli argument is that BDS is inherently anti-semitic. The Palestinian argument is that it is a political action and not racially motivated.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Intifada

American politicians have overwhelmingly come down on the side of Israel for geopolitical reasons, and Israel's lobbying efforts are significantly stronger than Palestine.

Curious as to why you never even mentioned Iran or Hamas. The war is not Israel vs Palestine. It is Israel vs Hamas (proxy of Iran).

Political freedoms? Israel/Palestine situation? I'm not sure if those phrases are used to intentionally mislead or if you actually believe them.

The war in Gaza was initiated by Hamas and the situation is between Israel and Hamas. Hamas is a terrorist organization, a proxy of the #1 terrorist organization, Iran. Iran was and is the aggressor in this "situation" and Israel has every right to defend itself by killing as many Hamas members it can, wherever they may be.

You know this. Many of the students who are rioting, have been indoctrinated by anti-Israel professors, who teach students what to think, as opposed to how to think. Anti-Israel Iran proxies are also fanning the flames with their messaging online and in-person on our soil.

Your posts seem to gloss over reality with false narratives, similar to the aforementioned professors. IMO.

Not surprised -- protesting for many is simply a way to feel part of a social group while at the same time propping yourself up as being morally superior to your fellow students. Rebels with a phony cause. I would be very surprised if any of these kids knew anything about the conflict or had any real principled views on the topic.

As an aside, it seems like Columbia students are getting dumber. I am guessing it has a lot to do with getting rid of the standardized tests.

100%

[7Seconds]

Curious as to why you never even mentioned Iran or Hamas. The war is not Israel vs Palestine. It is Israel vs Hamas (proxy of Iran).

Given the complexity of the Israel/Palestine situation

^^^^
My attempt to approach the idea that some folks see Israel's occupation (which not only predates Hamas, but also helped spawn it and garner support for it) as a problem and a greater cause of the conflict.

[pakmansc300]

Sniper on the roof of IMU, what?

[IronCharles]

[mtpockets]

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There are reports of police tasing on a protester at a pro palestine event









I predict a melon cracking soon.

[mtpockets]

https://twitter.com/i/status/1783912260789838315



Death threat








It's gonna happen soon, Feel it in my bones

[mtpockets]

https://twitter.com/i/status/1784229012211896592

[Mark1T]

I live in one of the nicest trailer parks on the East side of this city. It don't smell that bad. You get used to it, ya know. I work at da Dollah Sto and I 'aint never travelled outside this State. I 'aint gots no entrynet, but I can tell you right now, I hate Israel.

[BigDickBlack]

Brainless libtards are obsessed with Palestine. (And child grooming, mutilation, no genders, pregnant men, pink hair, tranny luggage thieves, etc)

[mtpockets]

https://twitter.com/i/status/1784380146394309038

[Mark1T]

The CCP (China) and Soros are both funding the anti-Israel movement. Soros also funds campaigns for loons like LA, San Francisco, Seattle, Austin, New York to name only a few of the many, to defund the police and to create a lawless and chaotic society.

Not making that up.

[mtpockets]

The CCP (China) and Soros are both funding the anti-Israel movement. Soros also funds campaigns for loons like LA, San Francisco, Seattle, Austin, New York to name only a few of the many, to defund the police and to create a lawless and chaotic society.

Not making that up.

I believe it Mark!

[Mark1T]

I believe it Mark!

Get a load of this. Even the Drag Queens are teaching kids hate propaganda while also grossing out normal people.

[mtpockets]

Get a load of this. Even the Drag Queens are teaching kids hate propaganda while also grossing out normal people.

That's enough to gag a fukking maggot..

[7Seconds]

The CCP (China) and Soros are both funding the anti-Israel movement. Soros also funds campaigns for loons like LA, San Francisco, Seattle, Austin, New York to name only a few of the many, to defund the police and to create a lawless and chaotic society.

Not making that up.

I know conservatives love soros as their boogie man and both conservatives and liberals focus far too much on universities as the reason discourse has deteriorated, but the bigger culprit is social media.

Anecdotally, I have a son who is a freshman at UT and 3 other teenagers who I keep track of on social media. Kids who get radicalized online is probably not so much directly by news articles or other sources from "woke" media, but by content creators, other social media users, and the sinister nature of our current attention economy. It distills heavy and complicated topics down into barbs, clapbacks, and 30-second videos, quickly explaining topics without nuance because discussion is antithetical to these platforms. It's so easy for people to get caught up in the sort of full-on, no-nuance pro-Palestine, pro-Hamas viewpoint when many teens' first exposure is through a place like Twitter, where you see three-sentence summaries of the topic, videos of Palestinian suffering on your timeline, and tweets expressing frustration or depicting terrible acts by Israel. You see many people from completely separate places protesting about the issue in a very community-centric way.

And the thing is, someone else could have a completely different algorithm, showing basically the reverse with an Israeli view, and neither would notice. Now, multiply the influence by the fact that the people being exposed to this are college students, but often even younger. You'd be surprised at the number of tweets that make you "sigh" by actual 14-year-olds who literally don't know better. And because it's the internet, they actually have the capacity to reach people outside of other dumb 14-year-olds. Add to the fact that these young people see many of their friends online also talking about the issue with passion and a very matter-of-fact view - people underestimate how easy it is to get caught up in it when many of these kids haven't even taken media literacy classes yet.

[Mark1T]

I know conservatives love soros as their boogie man and both conservatives and liberals focus far too much on universities as the reason discourse has deteriorated, but the bigger culprit is social media.

Anecdotally, I have a son who is a freshman at UT and 3 other teenagers who I keep track of on social media. Kids who get radicalized online is probably not so much directly by news articles or other sources from "woke" media, but by content creators, other social media users, and the sinister nature of our current attention economy. It distills heavy and complicated topics down into barbs, clapbacks, and 30-second videos, quickly explaining topics without nuance because discussion is antithetical to these platforms. It's so easy for people to get caught up in the sort of full-on, no-nuance pro-Palestine, pro-Hamas viewpoint when many teens' first exposure is through a place like Twitter, where you see three-sentence summaries of the topic, videos of Palestinian suffering on your timeline, and tweets expressing frustration or depicting terrible acts by Israel. You see many people from completely separate places protesting about the issue in a very community-centric way.

And the thing is, someone else could have a completely different algorithm, showing basically the reverse with an Israeli view, and neither would notice. Now, multiply the influence by the fact that the people being exposed to this are college students, but often even younger. You'd be surprised at the number of tweets that make you "sigh" by actual 14-year-olds who literally don't know better. And because it's the internet, they actually have the capacity to reach people outside of other dumb 14-year-olds. Add to the fact that these young people see many of their friends online also talking about the issue with passion and a very matter-of-fact view - people underestimate how easy it is to get caught up in it when many of these kids haven't even taken media literacy classes yet.

Do you know anything about George Soros? I am not ignorant about him. In fact, in the 80s, when I was a licensed and registered Commodity Trading Advisor with Series 3 and 63, I knew of him well then. Many people in my line of work, including me admired him because he made billions in FX.

To hypothecate that I think of Soros as the boogie man is pretty funny. I have followed him for decades. He is the definition of evil with his Open Society and funding far-left loon DAs in cities like LA and many others where they defend criminals more than citizens, is only a fraction of what he does.

The left ignorantly thinks he is wonderful only because he funds their whack causes, as long as they do as he says with no complaints.

Part of what I do also for 25 years is investigate financial fraud. Not saying what Soros does is illegal, but it is highly unethical and in my circle, we know what he does. He funds chaos that we see whenever there are protests. He turns protests into riots. Anti-Israel riots are no different and he is taking advantage of it.

People like you try to make others believe thinking that Soros-evil is a conspiracy theory. I have sources.

I don't need anyone or any organization to inform me of Soros. I know first-hand.