These numbers are useless because they don't take into account things like location, people who work part time, people who don't work etc
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04-23-2024, 02:39 PM #31
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04-23-2024, 02:40 PM #32
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Weird cope itt and I’m not even sure why it’s happening. Sounds right to me, seems like some of you are very unwise to the world and insular in your own lives.
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04-23-2024, 02:44 PM #33
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04-23-2024, 02:49 PM #34
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04-23-2024, 02:50 PM #35
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04-23-2024, 03:01 PM #36
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04-23-2024, 03:10 PM #37
The average new car loan is $600/month @ 13% APR; many are taking $1000/month payments
97% of Americans are in debt up to their eyes; 62% of car notes are currently defaulting
Americans have never been more broke in the history of this country; the middle class doesn't even exist anymore*Tolerance is the lube that slides the dildo of dysfunction into the ass of civilized society*
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04-23-2024, 03:18 PM #38
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04-23-2024, 03:36 PM #39
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04-23-2024, 03:44 PM #40
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04-23-2024, 04:01 PM #41
Around here they start in the 80s. I think the HNIC electrical engineer is around 150k tops including bonus if I had to guess. A lot of the engineers here are green with very little experience and are handed a chit load of projects with very little direction so they just play the copy and past game. Then they rely on us big meat swingers in the field to make on the fly corrections and help guide them. Once they get some experience they tend to move on to bigger fish such as Doble, Siemens, ABB, General Electric, etc. to where they can make more money. It’s basically a revolving door of inexperienced engineers that use this company as a stepping stone to as their resume
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04-23-2024, 04:06 PM #42
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04-23-2024, 04:12 PM #43
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04-23-2024, 04:23 PM #44
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Tradies here gross around $200k and pay comparatively little tax on that amount, compared with wage earners
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04-23-2024, 04:24 PM #45
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04-24-2024, 09:49 AM #46
There are people paying 18-23% too, a lot.. the default numbers are from several news articles I found online; people are getting their vehicles towed daily
I mean no one can actually afford those payments, wasn't long ago a $400 car payment was almost unheard of and no one would be stupid enough to do it
I forgot to mention that 1 in 4 people are now on government assistance, food stamps, disability etc; I see it every single day*Tolerance is the lube that slides the dildo of dysfunction into the ass of civilized society*
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04-24-2024, 09:56 AM #47
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04-26-2024, 03:55 AM #48
cope? I come from a family of tradies. I have a brain, so naturally I did go the engineer route. And I do just fine. And I have multiple paths to an early retirement. I'll be retired while you'll be 50, on your third marriage, battling alcoholism, at this point your body will begin giving up on you, knees weak, overweight borderline obese, the highlight of your day will be stumbling into the gas station on your way home to stock up on scratch offs and beer.
seems like your life is just littered with poor decisions
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You **** on engineers yet your entire "career" revolves around them. Literally every tool and piece of equipment you use has been engineered with "a retard will be using this" on the design side.
True story.
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04-26-2024, 04:13 AM #49
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04-26-2024, 04:51 AM #50
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04-26-2024, 04:55 AM #51
Remember that every time you walk into a mall or store, the people who work there are making minimum wage or slightly above, except for the managers who comprise about 10% of the store staff. Any Wal Mart alone probably has 300 staff members who make barely 40k a year.
I think those numbers are low, but the idea that a lot of people are making 80-100k definitely isn't true. If you make over 100k a year then you're probably in the top 10% at least.
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04-26-2024, 05:02 AM #52
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04-26-2024, 08:37 AM #53
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04-26-2024, 08:49 AM #54
I've known this for years. It's how I coped when I was making less than $100k and facing student loan debt, srs.
Keep in mind this is USA median, so some states might be closer to $50k, whereas some other states (New York / Cali) are closer to $80k, srs.
In my city within Florida it's about $60k/yr median household income. But if I went as narrow as to look at the statistics for my zip code, it's closer to $100k median household income, srs.i7-14700k
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04-26-2024, 09:42 AM #55
Don't chit on trades man. They're probably the hardest working people in society and do real meaningful chit. Without trades we wouldn't have houses, hospitals, offices, or roads. Every nut and bolt has more value than some papers being pushed.
Engineering is a great career, but some still design chit that makes zero sense, too expensive, hard to repair, etc. Poster you're arguing with is right when he says trades and techs have to make on the fly adjustments.
And work culture wise, I'd much rather be around tradies in the field than in office dealing with politics and dumb sloots.
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04-26-2024, 11:18 AM #56
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04-26-2024, 11:44 AM #57
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04-26-2024, 11:45 AM #58
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04-26-2024, 11:45 AM #59
Nah bro I'm working while I'm out driving around shopping. Hate to break it to you. Turns out I can do my job without spending 40 hours each week chained to my desk. Guessing everyone else has figured this out too. Companies still thriving while remote work has enabled us all to "work" fewer hours and stop with the charade of chaining us to a desk with the same levels of production as we piss away time for us to leave our cubicle being the only difference.
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04-26-2024, 11:58 AM #60
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