‘Dune 2’ Criticized for Lack of ME and North African Inclusion and Influence

[JayJ350]

It’s not “fringe opposition” the left/right is more or less evenly split across the country atm and both sides’ politicians, propagandists, and media do nothing but play “hate the other team” and “be afraid.”

They do this because it’s easy - it plays us against each other so they don’t actually have to do anything to stay in power and become more and more the ruling class while everyone on the board is slowing becoming a serf.

If you were one of the people playing that game - yes - you would label that “extremist” I guess. But it’s ABSOLUTELY nothing like me providing cover for the “****” lovers … a statement you agreed with.

Remember when I said I expected you to go further on the offensive?

See, I am usually right about people.

[miscinbro]

He said as much, no? I think probably more because he's just grabbing your take in this thread and maybe not super familiar with you (I like you well enough, but you're no Bodhy, Sillie, z4 or Pat when it comes to grabbing attention, bud). And on "your take" I think he's seeing it in a different light than I did.

I generally find you easy to talk with.

He quoted a post that said I was providing cover for the left itt, and agreed with it flat out. He then called me an extremist. I don’t find these to be fair statements, and I’m inclined to believe there is a degree of dishonesty involved.

And you as well, if we knew each other irl and discussed politics - we would often disagree but I would respect you.

[miscinbro]

Remember when I said I expected you to go further on the offensive?

See, I am usually right about people.

Apparently you think holding you accountable for your actual words, that you refuse to support with a quotation or retract is “going on the offensive”

Meanwhile I’ve been charged with gaslighting and being loved by peddos and an extremist. A claim you quoted to agree with, and the other you made yourself.

But I’m the one “on the offensive?”

I guess we are done here.

[JayJ350]

Apparently you think holding you accountable for your actual words, that you refuse to support with a quotation or retract is “going on the offensive”

Meanwhile I’ve been charged with gaslighting and being loved by peddos and an extremist. A claim you quoted to agree with, and the other you made yourself.

But I’m the one “on the offensive?”

I guess we are done here.

Well you are gaslighting right now.

[Dave22reborn]

Those are important. VOTE TRUMP ONLY HE CAN SAVE US!!!

Come on, you are at least somewhat a student of history - wake up.

What, we should support someone like Nikki Haley? A female version of Biden?

[miscinbro]

What, we should support someone like Nikki Haley? A female version of Biden?

Don’t just pivot.

[TugOfPeace]

The second film was a 10/10. They better not fuk up the third one with diversity bullchit.

[JUSA]

The second film was a 10/10. They better not fuk up the third one with diversity bullchit.

I'm more concerned with how they deviated from the books there at the end. Second movie was good, not 10/10, I felt Zendaya missed the mark a bit -- no attempt at an accent and, this isn't on her, but her being so against Paul was problematic. Spoiler: But Paul fuks things up very badly with his Jihad, which is kind of one of the many points of the book, the blind trust in a savior/Religion being dangerous. Her being set up to be a, "I told you so!" not just goes against the character, but fuk I was watching the movie, having been familiar with the books and knowing how bad it gets, and still found myself believing in Paul. If they make the empress the sire of his children, that's fuking awful.

[SaltyDog920]

Thriving on fear and outrage? Like our open border, crime, **** affecting children, DEI, etc?

Come on, man! There should be no outrage at an illegal who was arrested, released, and then murder a US citizen. How dare you be outraged on the behalf of the murder victim!

[Dave22reborn]

I'm more concerned with how they deviated from the books there at the end. Second movie was good, not 10/10, I felt Zendaya missed the mark a bit -- no attempt at an accent and, this isn't on her, but her being so against Paul was problematic. Spoiler: But Paul fuks things up very badly with his Jihad, which is kind of one of the many points of the book, the blind trust in a savior/Religion being dangerous. Her being set up to be a, "I told you so!" not just goes against the character, but fuk I was watching the movie, having been familiar with the books and knowing how bad it gets, and still found myself believing in Paul. If they make the empress the sire of his children, that's fuking awful.

I liked the movies, but in the book, the story takes place over years, not months.

Messiah also takes place 12-15 years later, so who knows what they're gonna do.

Messiah also isn't that exciting of a book, so I wonder what they'll do.

[miscinbro]

Come on, man! There should be no outrage at an illegal who was arrested, released, and then murder a US citizen. How dare you be outraged on the behalf of the murder victim!

Sounds pretty outrageous to me. And nothing I’ve said would ever lead you to think otherwise if you were not just parroting some talking points.

[SaltyDog920]

Sounds pretty outrageous to me. And nothing I’ve said would ever lead you to think otherwise if you were not just parroting some talking points.

You’re such a useful idiot. The Right is THRIVING on fear and outrage right now. And that’s been the case since I was an adult. Though it’s worse now than anytime other than right after 9/11.

How DARE anyone be outraged at the murder of a citizen at the hands of an illegal! HOW DARE THEY!

[freeheeler]

I believe nobody was actually critical of any of that sht when they watched it. Our outrage culture and clickbait monetization has just created a culture where SOMEONE will ALWAYS have to be outraged.

And, to be clear, that’s spread throughout society, both sides of the political spectrum, age, income, education, etc.

Oh yes, Conservatives are showing their outrage culture at the border being left wide open for fecal scum to waltz right through….Really the same thing

[miscinbro]

Oh yes, Conservatives are showing their outrage culture at the border being left wide open for fecal scum to waltz right through….Really the same thing

Ahhh of course, it’s different when you do it. Don’t worry I’m sure Trump and only Trump can save our country.

Cause that kind of talk isn’t scary at all …

[miscinbro]

How DARE anyone be outraged at the murder of a citizen at the hands of an illegal! HOW DARE THEY!

Ok, so as a country let’s take a deep breath and talk constructively. Let’s demand it of our leaders. It’s not going to be as easy as just being pissed off and pointing fingers all the time. It will require compromise. But if you care about actually fixing things this stuff that’s the path forward.

[TheFornicator1]

Just an FYI: MENA is a long standing and fairly common acronym.

[Dave22reborn]

Ahhh of course, it’s different when you do it. Don’t worry I’m sure Trump and only Trump can save our country.

Cause that kind of talk isn’t scary at all …

Once again, what did Nikki Haley say about illegals? Same thing as Biden. And how was our border under Trump?

[SaltyDog920]

Ok, so as a country let’s take a deep breath and talk constructively. Let’s demand it of our leaders. It’s not going to be as easy as just being pissed off and pointing fingers all the time. It will require compromise. But if you care about actually fixing things this stuff that’s the path forward.

LMFAO...okay.

Let's talk constructively:

"We need to stop the flow of illegal immigrants"
"YOU'RE RACIST!! NO HUMAN IS ILLEGAL!!"

"Let's build a wall to help secure our border"
"WALLS ARE RACIST YOU WHITE SUPREMACIST! THEY'RE ALSO EXPENSIVE - AND WE HAVE TO SEND UKRAINE BILLIONS!!"

"We really need to stop the flow of unvetted illegal aliens. Some of them commit crime and have had violent history in their home country"
"AMERICANS COMMIT CRIME YOU BIGOT!!"

"We need to deport illegal aliens, especially the ones breaking committing crime beyond illegal entry"
"NO! DEPORTATION IS IMMORAL! YOU'RE BREAKING UP FAMILIES! IF THEY'RE CAUGHT COMMITTING A CRIME, WE MUSN'T PROSECUTE THEM AND WE NEED TO RELEASE THEM SO THEY CAN MURDER AMERICAN CITIZENS!!"

"We need to direct more money to the border protection and ICE agencies to give them the tools to curb the flow of illegal aliens"
"RACIST!! ICE IS AN AGENCY OF NOT-SEES"

"Some of the illegal immigrants are murders and rapists. We need to know who's coming into our country"
"TRUMP CALLED ALL IMMIGRANTS MURDERS AND RAPISTS!! REEEE!!!"

Seriously, stfu with your fake altruistic platitudes. There's ZERO compromise with you lefties. You are so far off the rails that conversation is pointless.

[4g64fiero]

There's like one white dude in it, and its the main character that you eventually find out why he's white.

Its SJW as fuk in a lot of ways tbh.

[Dave22reborn]

I'm shocked people aren't losing it over Javier Bardem not being Arab, or N. African. He's Spanish, so technically white.

[JayJ350]

LMFAO...okay.

Let's talk constructively:

"We need to stop the flow of illegal immigrants"
"YOU'RE RACIST!! NO HUMAN IS ILLEGAL!!"

"Let's build a wall to help secure our border"
"WALLS ARE RACIST YOU WHITE SUPREMACIST! THEY'RE ALSO EXPENSIVE - AND WE HAVE TO SEND UKRAINE BILLIONS!!"

"We really need to stop the flow of unvetted illegal aliens. Some of them commit crime and have had violent history in their home country"
"AMERICANS COMMIT CRIME YOU BIGOT!!"

"We need to deport illegal aliens, especially the ones breaking committing crime beyond illegal entry"
"NO! DEPORTATION IS IMMORAL! YOU'RE BREAKING UP FAMILIES! IF THEY'RE CAUGHT COMMITTING A CRIME, WE MUSN'T PROSECUTE THEM AND WE NEED TO RELEASE THEM SO THEY CAN MURDER AMERICAN CITIZENS!!"

"We need to direct more money to the border protection and ICE agencies to give them the tools to curb the flow of illegal aliens"
"RACIST!! ICE IS AN AGENCY OF NOT-SEES"

"Some of the illegal immigrants are murders and rapists. We need to know who's coming into our country"
"TRUMP CALLED ALL IMMIGRANTS MURDERS AND RAPISTS!! REEEE!!!"

Seriously, stfu with your fake altruistic platitudes. There's ZERO compromise with you lefties. You are so far off the rails that conversation is pointless.

Bingo. Trying to pretend like both sides are the same by this point is simply insane. The left cannot reason, it's their way or the highway. Any attempts at a reasonable discussion are futile.

[SaltyDog920]

I'm shocked people aren't losing it over Javier Bardem not being Arab, or N. African. He's Spanish, so technically white.

Lol @ the above. They lost their chit at white women playing Cleopatra when this country was like 94% white many decades ago. Surprised they're not literally shaking right now.