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    How are there huge markets now for all of this stuff? There's probably millions of ig personal trainers and influencers now training people and selling stuff.

    I barely lift hard and I'm probably bigger than most of these dudes too smh
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    Originally Posted by TryingMen View Post
    If you guys are looking for a real program that works I'm taking a couple more clients right now. Spots will fill fast though, PM me

    3 spots left at my discounted rate at $299.99 per month spots will fill fast swipe up

    always cringe my ass off at people posting that

    like who tf would stop taking clients, it's literally free money lmao
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    Originally Posted by NinjaBoots View Post
    You can pay someone to help accelerate the time it takes to learn all of this stuff. You've been doing this for years so macros and which exercises to do are second nature to you. To a lot of people, they don't even know what a macro is, let alone what the right ratios are to achieve what they are looking for.

    They could spend a year or more going through trial and error and researching the way you likely did, or accelerate that and focus on the execution, and spend $20/month.
    i think the bigger problem is that they think there's a magic ratio, when it's literally just recommended minimums for protein and fat --> fill the rest of your calories with whatever
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    Originally Posted by mrdot View Post
    3 spots left at my discounted rate at $299.99 per month spots will fill fast swipe up

    always cringe my ass off at people posting that

    like who tf would stop taking clients, it's literally free money lmao
    As a coach I only had so many slots to fill. Once the slots were filled, you'd go on a waiting list. I wanted to make sure I was able to respond to client's questions with 24 hrs. When you take on too many clients you can't keep up. You hear client's complain that they reached out to their coach and didn't get a response for over a week, etc...that's a ****ty coach...
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    Originally Posted by kimm4 View Post
    As a coach I only had so many slots to fill. Once the slots were filled, you'd go on a waiting list. I wanted to make sure I was able to respond to client's questions with 24 hrs. When you take on too many clients you can't keep up. You hear client's complain that they reached out to their coach and didn't get a response for over a week, etc...that's a ****ty coach...
    You should have just paid somebody else to do it like Josef Rakich
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    Originally Posted by mrdot View Post
    This guy Wes Watson makes over a million a month and he literally just copy/pastes his same workout plan to everyone

    it's crazy how people will pay $5000 a month for his "business coaching" just to get scammed

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    Originally Posted by JoeDelts View Post
    How stupid would you have to be to trust this guy?
    Most people don't realize they're being scammed.

    Look at Liver King for example. People actually bought his supplements and diet plan.
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    How stupid would you have to be to trust this guy?
    Some people just get lucky with their scams
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    Originally Posted by Dave22reborn View Post
    Most people don't realize they're being scammed.

    Look at Liver King for example. People actually bought his supplements and diet plan.
    and they still are

    bro went "natural" after being exposed and now is back to blasting lmao
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    Originally Posted by kimm4 View Post
    As a coach I only had so many slots to fill. Once the slots were filled, you'd go on a waiting list. I wanted to make sure I was able to respond to client's questions with 24 hrs. When you take on too many clients you can't keep up. You hear client's complain that they reached out to their coach and didn't get a response for over a week, etc...that's a ****ty coach...
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    You should have just paid somebody else to do it like Josef Rakich
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    Originally Posted by MetroBrah View Post
    this

    Could have had a crew of overseas Indian personal assistants responding. That way you can take on as many clients as possible.
    yeah

    the top "influencers" outsource people from cheap places for them to do all the work while they are laying on the coach watching the money roll in

    DevinPhysique did that but instead of hiring an indian he used some chick he knew and got cancelled from it
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    not true, had some friends who worked in that industry, for some people just having someone to motivate them is worth the money
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    It’s really that simple
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    Originally Posted by MetroBrah View Post
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    No, not my style. I started coaching 2005. It was much different at that time...nothing like it is today.
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    I've thought about it, for cutting. If you fell off the wagon and had to check in I think that would help you stay on track. Never pulled the trigger though. I'd definitely go with an RP coach or someone science based like Lyle Mcdonald, hiring a random instragramer is indeed retarded. But yeah, if you know the basics there's not much a coach can do besides give you some accountability.
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    Some people absolutely NEED them for accountability & motivation, OP.

    I know people who had coaches & got great results, but legitimately needed to pay to be held accountable. As long as they know what they’re paying for, which they did, it seems fine to me.
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    No, not my style. I started coaching 2005. It was much different at that time...nothing like it is today.
    Well you can continue to have 'morals' or you can sell out and make loads of money off of unsuspecting and dimwitted participants - in the end your morals are mostly there as a base layer of conditioning from your environment, society, and yes, some of it is inherent, but you gotta ask yourself, is it worth transcending your humanity on this one?
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    Some people absolutely NEED them for accountability & motivation, OP.

    I know people who had coaches & got great results, but legitimately needed to pay to be held accountable. As long as they know what they’re paying for, which they did, it seems fine to me.
    yeah, i get what you're saying but

    most coaches are fking garbage and just want your money

    so while they are paying $300/month for "accountability" all they get is some half assed emails with no daily communication

    I know guys that compete who have paid thousands of dollars on top coaches just for them to barely say anything or even care that they are working together

    i agree a good coach who cares can be worth the money
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    Some people simply cannot obey themself. A coach keeps them on track
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    shut your btch ass up i got 40k people following me on ig
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    Originally Posted by MetroBrah View Post
    this

    Could have had a crew of overseas Indian personal assistants responding. That way you can take on as many clients as possible.
    I started wondering about that as a lot of her responses seemed the same. So I started throwing things out there like remember when we started talking on that forum 10 years ago and how it was hard for me to do a lot of the upper body workouts with spine degeneration and bulging discs. Plus extreme bloating from the probiotics.

    The forum part I got Indian-like responses but then she did send tailored responses for the upper-body workouts and extreme bloating.

    What I gather is she has bots or Indians sending generic motivational posts and then if it's complicated they escalate the posts to her. I've seen this in the business world when people have a generic email address for a department.
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