You guys try kratom?

[CellyTech]

Never touched it but I know a few people over the years that used it to kick opioids / alcohol. Seems to do the trick.

[N0rds]

Take it daily you will become dependant, fact.
have fun while it lasts or at least however long you can deny you have become addicted.

Bullshit.



this poster still refuses to give any proof hes ever even tried it.

just pushing FDA/BigPharma shill nonsense.

[DrugsToGetBig]

tried it once and didn't really feel much from it aside from maybe slight euphoria


it binds to mu-opioid receptors in your brain just like dope does

[ithappenss]

Bullshit.



this poster still refuses to give any proof hes ever even tried it.

just pushing FDA/BigPharma shill nonsense.

you honestly sound like an addict in denial.

there are withdrawals from it and people do become dependant on it. it's a fact not a conspiracy

[Sgt T-Man]

Bullshit.



this poster still refuses to give any proof hes ever even tried it.

just pushing FDA/BigPharma shill nonsense.

Mad brah?
https://forum.bodybuilding.com/showt...post1685532113

I know more about it and consumed more than you ever will. I'm just saying my peace but you do whatever you want man.

[GrandpaFeathers]

I take about 8-10 tea-to-tablespoons per day. I take more than anyone I know. I use a plastic spoon, swig some water, throw it back and then chug more water.
Started as appetite suppressor. I’m sure this amount can’t be good for me. Sometimes I have trouble focusing my vision if I take too much. I take a spoonful like every hour and a half.

[N0rds]

you honestly sound like an addict in denial.

there are withdrawals from it and people do become dependant on it. it's a fact not a conspiracy

Mad brah?
https://forum.bodybuilding.com/showt...post1685532113

I know more about it and consumed more than you ever will. I'm just saying my peace but you do whatever you want man.

Spoken like true shills.

Never list any pertinent info.

Just propaganda level "muh addicts! Millions of people DIE from this!!!" "we need to ban it!" "muh addition worse than heroin!"






i can tell you've probably never even tr4ied it ebfore, adn are just regurgitating stuff you saw other people say. Like a good liberal shill.

[JRPolney]

Never touched it but I know a few people over the years that used it to kick opioids / alcohol. Seems to do the trick.

It does but not for everyone just like anything on the market. I do use it for body pain but of course you never want to over do things... I go to the gym to help keep that pain at bay so using kratom at the end of my visits is when I mainly take it anymore deff a noticeable difference in recovery

[JRPolney]

tried it once and didn't really feel much from it aside from maybe slight euphoria


it binds to mu-opioid receptors in your brain just like dope does

Though it does use the same receptors the actions of it are completely different!

[JRPolney]

I take about 8-10 tea-to-tablespoons per day. I take more than anyone I know. I use a plastic spoon, swig some water, throw it back and then chug more water.
Started as appetite suppressor. I’m sure this amount can’t be good for me. Sometimes I have trouble focusing my vision if I take too much. I take a spoonful like every hour and a half.

Can confirm that amount of plant based powder is not doing your body any favors! I know extracts get a bad rap right now but it is a concern a few places are seemingly taking seriously with actual substantial moves to finding a way to FDA clearance or at least not under the scope of them. The problem is they never have and prob never will pass a raw powder they only allow extracts to begin with so it's been tough.

I could suggest that pump I was talking about it seems you take about a gram or so at a time and that pump is equivalent to that in each pump action... they have about 80 pumps in the bigger ones and 40 in the smaller one.... pop it under your tongue and you are good to go you just let it sit there for 30 seconds then swallow. My stomach has never ever thanked me more to be honest as I was a toss and washer to. But then the extract powders and caps you could never get a consistent dose in or mixture for that matter that was the same strength every time. I just like these dude are starting to use real bio-availability tech.

[DrugsToGetBig]

Though it does use the same receptors the actions of it are completely different!

it produces a similar effect to that of any narcotic opiate in high enough doses and since it acts on the same exact pathway...i'd argue it's not that different brah

[JRPolney]

"thinks to himself" .... I like this guy

Spoken like true shills.

Never list any pertinent info.

Just propaganda level "muh addicts! Millions of people DIE from this!!!" "we need to ban it!" "muh addition worse than heroin!"






i can tell you've probably never even tr4ied it ebfore, adn are just regurgitating stuff you saw other people say. Like a good liberal shill.

[Sgt T-Man]

I have dealt with opiate addiction and withdrawal so I have extensive knowledge in this area. I also experienced kratom addiction and withdrawal.
Kratom produces a similar high to low dose opiates and withdrawals from kratom are very similar to opiates just not as severe.

Honeymoon phase is a real thing after that majority of people will deny dependance and addiction to the bitter end to not admit they are an addict.

[Joeyw88]

Looks like there's a few paid kratom shills in here lol.

Kratom is indeed an opioid. The two main alkaloids are 7-Hydroxymitragynine and Mitragynine. These act on the same receptors as traditional opioids, such as the μ-opioid receptor. I would consider it safer than traditional opioids in terms of the possibility of overdosing and dying, but it can cause physical and psychological dependence. Withdrawal from kratom can be extremely difficult for some people.

I would recommend overall staying away from it due to the physical dependence.

Edit: If there's anyone in here that is trying to quit, I recommend checking out https://www.reddit.com/r/quittingkratom/ Yes, I know it's Reddit, but it is a pretty active and helpful community of people trying to quit kratom.

[Evolutionary1]

I have dealt with opiate addiction and withdrawal so I have extensive knowledge in this area. I also experienced kratom addiction and withdrawal.
Kratom produces a similar high to low dose opiates and withdrawals from kratom are very similar to opiates just not as severe.

Honeymoon phase is a real thing after that majority of people will deny dependance and addiction to the bitter end to not admit they are an addict.

moderation

[naturalmedicine]

I've been using kratom since 2015. I stick mostly to plain kratom powder. I use extracts sparingly for bad days. I use about 4 grams, 4 times per day to manage chronic pain, but kratom gives a great mood lift and some energy too.

[ScramFranklin]

Liked green
Liked white
Together they were great
Hated red


Issue was it the feelz barely lasted and tolerance built quick. Wasn’t worth it for those reasons

[lightsarefallin]

Looks like there's a few paid kratom shills in here lol.

Kratom is indeed an opioid. The two main alkaloids are 7-Hydroxymitragynine and Mitragynine. These act on the same receptors as traditional opioids, such as the μ-opioid receptor. I would consider it safer than traditional opioids in terms of the possibility of overdosing and dying, but it can cause physical and psychological dependence. Withdrawal from kratom can be extremely difficult for some people.

I would recommend overall staying away from it due to the physical dependence.

Edit: If there's anyone in here that is trying to quit, I recommend checking out https://www.reddit.com/r/quittingkratom/ Yes, I know it's Reddit, but it is a pretty active and helpful community of people trying to quit kratom.

You can absolutely become physically and psychologically dependent on a substance that binds to the receptors you mentioned. It's just a fact. Any denial of this is willing ignorance. That doesn't mean everyone's going to become 'addicted.' It's not a black and white thing.

Physical withdrawal symptoms are real.

[Thebigzub]

I got addicted to Vicodin after I broke my hand, Someone said try Kratom.
I bought it by the kilo on line ( still have a bunch capped up)

It was 10 times the withdrawals as Vicodin to quit....2 weeks I couldn't even leave the house...

[JustiNtense]

I got addicted to Vicodin after I broke my hand, Someone said try Kratom.
I bought it by the kilo on line ( still have a bunch capped up)

It was 10 times the withdrawals as Vicodin to quit....2 weeks I couldn't even leave the house...

You must have been taking a stupid amount everyday.

I take it everyday. One time I went cold turkey after two years every day, the withdrawals were nothing, similar to caffeine withdrawal. Went on with my day as normal and felt good after 5 days.

[lightsarefallin]

I got addicted to Vicodin after I broke my hand, Someone said try Kratom.
I bought it by the kilo on line ( still have a bunch capped up)

It was 10 times the withdrawals as Vicodin to quit....2 weeks I couldn't even leave the house...

What was your daily usage looking like for withdrawals to hit so hard?

[Madscient1st]

I got addicted to Vicodin after I broke my hand, Someone said try Kratom.
I bought it by the kilo on line ( still have a bunch capped up)

It was 10 times the withdrawals as Vicodin to quit....2 weeks I couldn't even leave the house...

Lolwut. That packaging seems extremely sus for “buying it online” bruh. What vendor did you use? It definitely is addictive and there are withdrawals if you take enough or long enough, but it is nowhere near the levels of pharmaceutical pain killers in my experience, in terms of the feeling and withdrawals.

[Madscient1st]

You must have been taking a stupid amount everyday.

I take it everyday. One time I went cold turkey after two years every day, the withdrawals were nothing, similar to caffeine withdrawal. Went on with my day as normal and felt good after 5 days.

Exactly this. Kratom is in the same family as the coffee tree. The worst of the withdrawals are the cravings, similar to coffee or trying to cold turkey nicotine. It is in no way comparable to pain killers which will leave you dope sick and give you actual bad physical symptoms

[MinisterOfLust]

I heard it's addictive.

[Thebigzub]

You must have been taking a stupid amount everyday.

I take it everyday. One time I went cold turkey after two years every day, the withdrawals were nothing, similar to caffeine withdrawal. Went on with my day as normal and felt good after 5 days.

Good for you man.....

just like any drug/alcohol.....if you abuse it you pay the price.

[Thebigzub]

. It is in no way comparable to pain killers which will leave you dope sick and give you actual bad physical symptoms

You are 100% full of chit!!

Go ahead and take 6-8 grams a day for 2 years and then quit cold turkey.....report back to me?

Like I said a DRUG is a DRUG if it is abused......good for you that take Gas station Kratom.......LOL

[ithappenss]

moderation

addictions would not exist if moderation was available for all,genius.

stay away from mind altering substances all together. nothing good comes from them

[Pats2022SBwin]

https://earthkratom.com/kratom-strai...eng-da-kratom/

Buy this brand and strain. Been using it for years and it’s like taking a ******** if you take a spoonful SRS

Is there a particular reason why you like this strain? I've only really been using the MIT45 shots but looking to try something else.

[Madscient1st]

You are 100% full of chit!!

Go ahead and take 6-8 grams a day for 2 years and then quit cold turkey.....report back to me?

Like I said a DRUG is a DRUG if it is abused......good for you that take Gas station Kratom.......LOL

I don’t take gas station Kratom. I use botanicalremedies. I’ve taken 10g + grams per day for over 4 years. Again, which vendor did you use that delivers it in zip lock bags? Talk about being full of chit. LOL

[JustiNtense]

I heard it's addictive.

Not at all. Think of it as being as addictive as caffeine. You can stop if you decide to, but just like caffeine, it's nice to have.

A lot of negative aspects you'd here would be complete bs from articles that don't like how much the natural occuring leaf has benefited thousands of people, when they could instead be relying on big pharma. It takes away money from big pharma. This product has helped people with severe drug addictions, it has helped people that suffer from pain etc.