Russia vs Ukraine Thread V: The Fate of Humanity, Traditional Values vs Globohomo

[Stizzel]

I don't blame Ukraine for kicking out Russians. Their methods was too heavy handed though.

I mean if you want to condone murder then okay just don't play the innocent victim when you find out actions have consequences

[exxtracool]

Right now, it's actually advantageous for Russia to spread as much as possible. Ukraine can't match their artillery numbers, so being spread out reduces the effectiveness of each shell fired.

Russia is basically clawing away territory along the entire front, while collapsing Ukrainian salients like Robotyne, Novomykhailivka, Pervomaiske, Avdiivka, and Klischiivka.

The Ukrainians are destroying Russian troops and equipment in the field, but the Russians are destroying the ability of the Ukrainians to make war.

logically, now would be the best time for the russians to push even though its winter. spring, from what i understand, is a mudfest nightmare in the ukrainian fields. plus its been a while since the ukrainians have gotten some military packages their way. the US is still gridlocked on approving ukraine assistance due to the democrats not giving the republicans their border measures, and the EU package is blocked by hungary that is demanding some outrageous amount for their approval.

[Ikeman83]

logically, now would be the best time for the russians to push even though its winter. spring, from what i understand, is a mudfest nightmare in the ukrainian fields. plus its been a while since the ukrainians have gotten some military packages their way. the US is still gridlocked on approving ukraine assistance due to the democrats not giving the republicans their border measures, and the EU package is blocked by hungary that is demanding some outrageous amount for their approval.

There's no rush for them. Russia doesn't need big arrow movements, they can just force the Ukrainians to retreat through open country and cut them apart as they destroy their positions and continually force them onto worse territory.

We think of big sweeping movements like the tank battles of WWII but that isn't something we're going to see in this war(again) until the Ukrainians don't have any capacity left.

The fog of war is gone with the prevalence of UAVs / drones, so Ukraine is now just a killing field where the Russians are grinding away the ability of the Ukrainians to resist.

It's really just a question about whether Zelensky will fight to the last Ukrainian in their current positions or withdraw to new positions further west to be able to defend better and try to force a settlement.

[PimpinisEasy]

Russia does not need to beat Ukraine quickly. The slower they go the more advantageous it is for them.

They can make deliberate slow movements while grinding down the Ukrainians. I suspect the Russians don't want this war to end... The continuing of those conflict offers them a lot of benefits... Whereas winning the war it's beneficial to their adversaries.

Right now America and others are being burnt out supporting Ukraine, winning the war helps them.

[Stizzel]

Russia does not need to beat Ukraine quickly. The slower they go the more advantageous it is for them.

They can make deliberate slow movements while grinding down the Ukrainians. I suspect the Russians don't want this war to end... The continuing of those conflict offers them a lot of benefits... Whereas winning the war it's beneficial to their adversaries.

Right now America and others are being burnt out supporting Ukraine, winning the war helps them.

People think that when they spam 'kiev in 2 weeks' on twitter it makes Putin sad, and if they make him sad enough he will surrender to globohomo

[Stizzel]

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Iran used the Fateh-110. The US cannot counter one of Iran's most basic weapons. It's been deployed since 2002.



(to be fair this is because Russian kinzhals destroyed all of our patriot missiles)

[Benji Snap]

The continuing of those conflict offers them a lot of benefits... Whereas winning the war it's beneficial to their adversaries.

Can you expand on this? Like what are the benefits for Russia? Genuinely asking. Cheers.

[DSTEE]

Do you have that source showing two having been destroyed?

Here: https://i.ibb.co/bJSbhbL/vatn.png

I am completely unsurprised that you have no response to the rest of my post

This progress? Looks like a good churn rate for this metholodical™ progress

Can only subsidize your way out of high energy costs for so long.

These prices?

[dabbmw2002]

Here: https://i.ibb.co/bJSbhbL/vatn.png




This progress? Looks like a good churn rate for this metholodical™ progress






These prices?

About what I expected from a Pollack

[swoleyo]

Can you expand on this? Like what are the benefits for Russia? Genuinely asking. Cheers.

The majority of the western world is going broke trying to keep Ukraine on life support. America spent 175 billion, Germany is in recession with the rest of the Europe not looking to good.

Meanwhile Russia is enjoying a growing economy with tons of protentional members still wanting to join BRICS.


Russia can keep up with this almost indefinitely. They have the economy and production facilities to keep a war going.

Russia can produce:
1500 tanks per year
100-150 cruise missles per month
1 to 1.5 million artillary shells per year. They also have around 4 million soviet artillary rounds sitting in storage which is unknown if being used or not


All of Nato cannot keep up with a single country. It would take Nato ten+ years to catch up to Russia's military production.

As the other guy was saying. Russia wins the long game on this. They haven no reason to press forward and loose men. Let Ukraine keep throwing men at a wall of death until there's none left all while losing critical infrastructure from cruise missile strikes. The west doesn't even report on Ukraine power outages anymore. It's over for them.

[yabbayabba]

Damn, so no plane was actually shot down? Just another retard crew lie to tell themselves that sending women, gimps, and midgets to die while they cry on a forum is "winning". Brutal.

[Ikeman83]

Here: https://i.ibb.co/bJSbhbL/vatn.png




This progress? Looks like a good churn rate for this metholodical™ progress

You recognize that this represents Ukraine putting forth their best efforts into a massive counter-offensive the result of which was Russia gaining territory for the year, correct? Russia attacked Ukrainian strong points (Bakhmut, Marinka, Avdiivka) while Ukraine attacked fields and Russia still came out ahead.

Hint: It's not gotten any better since January 1st, either.

[Stizzel]

Damn, so no plane was actually shot down? Just another retard crew lie to tell themselves that sending women, gimps, and midgets to die while they cry on a forum is "winning". Brutal.

Every time ukraine is about to start begging for money the ghost of kiev destroys some enormous piece of equipment that doesn't actually exist

[phaginator]

Vatniks in 2022-23: "EuRoPe is Gonna FREEEEEZZZZEEE!!!"


Meanwhile today:




Just LMFAO at vatcucks!!!

[phaginator]

Here: https://i.ibb.co/bJSbhbL/vatn.png




This progress? Looks like a good churn rate for this metholodical™ progress






These prices?

Holy FCK, vatniks BTFO!!!



Of the 360,000 troops that entered Ukraine, including contract and conscript personnel, Russia has lost 315,000 on the battlefield, according to the assessment. 2,200 of 3,500 tanks have been lost, according to the assessment. 4,400 of 13,600 infantry fighting vehicles and armored personnel carriers have also been destroyed, a 32 percent loss rate.

“As of late November, Russia lost over a quarter of its pre-invasion stockpiles of ground forces equipment,” the assessment reads. “This has reduced the complexity and scale of Russian offensive operations, which have failed to make major gains in Ukraine since early 2022.”

ZISTERSSS?! WHAT NOW!!!

[phaginator]

All of Nato cannot keep up with a single country. It would take Nato ten+ years to catch up to Russia's military production.

Holy fck vatcucks are deluded², thx for the entertainment guys was lolling irl


Oh no no no no no no

[LargePeter]

Holy FCK, vatniks BTFO!!!



Of the 360,000 troops that entered Ukraine, including contract and conscript personnel, Russia has lost 315,000 on the battlefield, according to the assessment. 2,200 of 3,500 tanks have been lost, according to the assessment. 4,400 of 13,600 infantry fighting vehicles and armored personnel carriers have also been destroyed, a 32 percent loss rate.

“As of late November, Russia lost over a quarter of its pre-invasion stockpiles of ground forces equipment,” the assessment reads. “This has reduced the complexity and scale of Russian offensive operations, which have failed to make major gains in Ukraine since early 2022.”

ZISTERSSS?! WHAT NOW!!!

US intelligence also lied about WMD in Iraq you spaz

[phaginator]

US intelligence also lied about WMD in Iraq you spaz

It's okay bro, Ruzzia conquered 0.01% last year, so it wil take a couple of centuries to conquer all of Ukraine. TRUST DA PLAN ZISTER!!!!


L M F A O !

[DSTEE]

Oh no no no no no no

Amusing side note is that russian coal prices are dropping despite the cold.


But its no joke. Colonized people in russia are protesting, and russian thought police is sent to beat them up. We should arm them so they can defend themselves from evil


https://twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/1747575524640039309


******** started banning channels publishing it. Weirdly ******** has no issues with channels dedicated to animal torture and abuse for entertaintment

https://twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/1747587694358601869

[Stizzel]

Russia began a large offensive along the entire front today. Expect lots of ghost of kiev stories as the nazis turn to twitter for cope

[Gainzzz]

The last remaining Retard Crew members are inhaling dangerously high levels of copium these days lmao

[Stizzel]

The last remaining Retard Crew members are inhaling dangerously high levels of copium these days lmao

Russia has cold winters! Putin is finished!

[yabbayabba]

The last remaining Retard Crew members are inhaling dangerously high levels of copium these days lmao

It's great when the Little Phaggy and Vatnig Boys Cope Choir of The Basement gets screeching over a dozen posts in a day. Reeks of desperation.

Also...LOL at how quickly the butt buddies moved on from the plane being shot down when they couldn't come up with any proof to yet another topic they'll have no proof on. Just floating from cope topic to cope topic on a stream of dead women, gimps, and midget blood.

[exxtracool]

Russia began a large offensive along the entire front today. Expect lots of ghost of kiev stories as the nazis turn to twitter for cope

source? makes sense though, its tough to push in the winter but its almost impossible in the spring time mud season. also as i mentioned before its been a good while since ukraine has been supplied and the americans and the EU are both politically gridlocked on approving new packages. i think orban in hungary has demanded like 50 billion dollars from the EU to approve the ukraine military aid package lmao. cheeky phgt.

the ukrainians have had a bit of time to shore up defensive lines so im interested to see what the russians do differently, if anything, to push past that. if its the same type of artillery slug match these two have been getting into then i dont see them making any sweeping advances. we shall see.

[miscinbro]

The majority of the western world is going broke trying to keep Ukraine on life support. America spent 175 billion, Germany is in recession with the rest of the Europe not looking to good.

Meanwhile Russia is enjoying a growing economy with tons of protentional members still wanting to join BRICS.


Russia can keep up with this almost indefinitely. They have the economy and production facilities to keep a war going.

Russia can produce:
1500 tanks per year
100-150 cruise missles per month
1 to 1.5 million artillary shells per year. They also have around 4 million soviet artillary rounds sitting in storage which is unknown if being used or not


All of Nato cannot keep up with a single country. It would take Nato ten+ years to catch up to Russia's military production.

As the other guy was saying. Russia wins the long game on this. They haven no reason to press forward and loose men. Let Ukraine keep throwing men at a wall of death until there's none left all while losing critical infrastructure from cruise missile strikes. The west doesn't even report on Ukraine power outages anymore. It's over for them.

Fcking LMAO. Yea … the US totally doesn’t have its own military-industrial complex. We are the world’s largest military spender and largest military supplier in the world, and it’s not even remotely close.

[Stizzel]

source? makes sense though, its tough to push in the winter but its almost impossible in the spring time mud season. also as i mentioned before its been a good while since ukraine has been supplied and the americans and the EU are both politically gridlocked on approving new packages. i think orban in hungary has demanded like 50 billion dollars from the EU to approve the ukraine military aid package lmao. cheeky phgt.

the ukrainians have had a bit of time to shore up defensive lines so im interested to see what the russians do differently, if anything, to push past that. if its the same type of artillery slug match these two have been getting into then i dont see them making any sweeping advances. we shall see.

[swoleyo]

Fcking LMAO. Yea … the US totally doesn’t have its own military-industrial complex. We are the world’s largest military spender and largest military supplier in the world, and it’s not even remotely close.

America can only produce 8k rounds of artillary per month.

America sells a lot of hardware but that's over a number of years. That doesn't mean it can produce it quickly.

Another example are tanks. America can only produce 1000 tanks per year.

You can google all this stuff. Stop being stupid bruh

[Muscle2021]

https://www.reddit.com/r/UkraineRuss...r_robert_fico/

Slovak prime minister: giving money to Ukraine is pointless, Russians position in negotiations will only get stronger

[Ikeman83]

Anyone have the percentage of Ukraine Russia has taken in 2024?

[Muscle2021]

Anyone have the percentage of Ukraine Russia has taken in 2024?

if you trust deepstatemaps it's .001%