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    Yes its worth it and if you don't workout your entire life you will regret it
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    Originally Posted by Onlinedatingcel View Post
    No. A lean build is better as too much stress and weight on the joints and ligaments will eventually cause problems down the line.
    Ideally your bmi should be 22.
    Good advice in the first half, not so good advice in the 2nd half.

    Your bmi should be within 24-26 and be relatively low bodyfat(11-14%) for maximum health and aesthetics and overall athleticism(strength/speed/endurance/etc).

    Kinobody did a great job explaining it

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    You don't have to drink to have a social life. Idk where you're located and don't need to know. I have pretty much stopped drinking too (that + the extra sleep you get from no late nights at bars helps a ton with getting lean btw) and have realized I need to find activities that aren't solo and lend themselves to mixed gender groups. Things like hiking, rock climbing, salsa dancing. Even stupid chit like Pickleball will at least keep you active and not have you autisticly spending all your time alone in a gym with headphones on.

    I had this problem too where I would spend so much time lifting, doing PPL 2x a week. Couple that with a stressful job and I realized that I could be as muscular, strong, and rich as I wanted, but it wouldn't mean chit if I had no social life/girlfriend. Being in a relationship isn't always fun, but being alone with no one to celebrate your work/fitness goals with is absolutely no fun either. I'd rather be less muscular, less rich, etc. and have a social life with non-social climbing/status-oriented people than be jacked/rich and either alone or with people that make me miserable.

    Idk, I'm rambling now and this is beyond the scope of the post at this point. I'd just say if something isn't working, change it and there ARE avenues to making friends that go beyond the NPC bar/club culture.
    Agree I never had a social life but I never tried getting one now I want one but it’s hard
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    Absolutely worth it. Working out/resistance training is the closest thing we have to the fountain of youth.
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    Originally Posted by Shortfuze View Post
    Absolutely worth it. Working out/resistance training is the closest thing we have to the fountain of youth.
    pretty much this. Just don't go overboard and take copious amounts of gear ****ing up your health. If your T levels are low, just get a yearly subscription and cruise.
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    I feel old af tho lifting now been lifting for over a decade now and still look like sht although it’s my fault
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    35 now and lifting has never been more important. I'm receiving the dividends from working out for the last 15ish years (thanks misc) and am in better shape than probably 97% of my peers. That being said, it's 100% clear my metabolism is slowing down for the first time ever and it's much easier to lose ab definition, which ties together any physique. I used to be able to miss the gym for a week on a vacation or something and only feel different, but not really look different. Now I both look and feel different. Lifting has never been more important to stay healthy/fit/aesthetic.
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    Yes its worth it and if you don't workout your entire life you will regret it
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    35 now and lifting has never been more important. I'm receiving the dividends from working out for the last 15ish years (thanks misc) and am in better shape than probably 97% of my peers. That being said, it's 100% clear my metabolism is slowing down for the first time ever and it's much easier to lose ab definition, which ties together any physique. I used to be able to miss the gym for a week on a vacation or something and only feel different, but not really look different. Now I both look and feel different. Lifting has never been more important to stay healthy/fit/aesthetic.
    Damn that sucks

    Why does it slow down

    Anyway to stop it or prevent it

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    I started lifting when. I was 27. I'm 33 and still getting a lot stronger month to month, year to year. You can infact lift in your 30s and get all of the benefits of lifting.

    Op, I'm not so sure the person in the pic you posted is natty.
    I'm 33 not 51

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    I'm still in my 20s so not the best one to speak on it.

    But I have a good deal of friends entering their thirties, or are otherwise in their mid-thirties. Compared to how I knew them 5+ years ago, all but a select few have gotten way fatter. The ones who were already chubby are obese. The ones who were skinny are chubby/obese. One guy used to be kinda jacked tbh but has all this fat on his face, and wears suits now to hide it while still looking professional. He's not fat but his bf% went up at least 5.

    I think the point I'm trying to make is, people in their thirties tend to settle down with their LTRs or wives + kids, career, and other things, etc. And in doing so they focus less on their diet/health, and more on convenience (getting kids and their selves mcdonalds on the road instead of waking up 45 minutes early to cook up a healthier breakfast). Due to this, the age group of 30+ has a reduction in competition when it comes to physique. If you're single, or just want to look good out in social/work situations, it should feel even easier to get ahead of the average.

    It's difficult to find any graphs for this, but there's this one for 2015-2016 time range in Wisconsin I found.

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    if you don't enjoy it just don't do it. there's plenty of ways to exercise...focusing solely on lifting for decades is basically an exercise in autism/body dysmorphia.
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    Originally Posted by conics View Post
    Damn that sucks

    Why does it slow down

    Anyway to stop it or prevent it

    Fk aging
    Just part of getting older. Had a 5th grade classmate who had an asthma attack and die. A friend as a teenager who collapsed playing basketball and died from a heart condition. Plenty of friends I knew didn't make it through their military enlistment. I'm lucky to be old enough to experience my metabolism slow down, hopefully I'll get to experience other adverse effects of aging down the line as well.

    But to answer your question, continuously working out does help your metabolism keep up.
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    It's mandatory to lift/strength train unless you want to suffer from sarcopenia.
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    It's mandatory to lift/strength train unless you want to suffer from sarcopenia.
    never heard this mentioned by all the old people i've known that stayed active yet never lifted
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    I am still gaining at 32 although it's way slower; but that's more lifting experience than age. In 2-3 years I'll probably just cut to 200 lbs and try to stay there indefinitely and try to maintain what I have and focus more on cardiovascular health.

    Anything at or below 20% BF and muscular is way fitter than the average dude past 30. Most men are overweight or obese. No point getting super lean as people - shockingly - tend to wear clothes most of the time and once you get to bed with a woman she'll not run away in fear because she notices the lack of visible abs.
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    never heard this mentioned by all the old people i've known that stayed active yet never lifted
    If they don't engage in strength training, they are putting themselves in danger of future potential complications.

    "Sarcopenia not only affects the ability to lead an active lifestyle but also contributes to increased obesity, reduced quality of life, osteoporosis, and metabolic health, in part due to reduced locomotion economy and ease."



    While cardiovascular-based workouts are beneficial, they are not enough on their own and should be combined with strength training for a well-rounded fitness routine
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    Originally Posted by JohnCena24 View Post
    If they don't engage in strength training, they are putting themselves in danger of future potential complications.

    "Sarcopenia not only affects the ability to lead an active lifestyle but also contributes to increased obesity, reduced quality of life, osteoporosis, and metabolic health, in part due to reduced locomotion economy and ease."



    While cardiovascular-based workouts are beneficial, they are not enough on their own and should be combined with strength training for a well-rounded fitness routine
    almost 100% of the people i've known over 80 from the 90s until now didn't lift. i did know one man who was pretty spry until 90 and he owned a few dumbbells that he used. most always kept a pretty healthy bmi so perhaps that worked in their advantage for preserving joint health and keeping them mobile. slim and relatively small/average in size seems to be the ticket...just look at all those asian women living to 100.
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    Probably the ideal time to start tbh. When you start losing the youthful facial glow of your twenties. Time to acquire mass.
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    Planning to get back into it as I start up hockey too at 32, also considering roids but don't know where to start. At this point, my logic is I have a few years before I'm out of my prime so might as well go all out physically in lifting and sports
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    definitely but the last few years I've shifted my focus, the gym can make you too stiff and rigid if you aren't careful
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    u won't look like when u were 19, but u should still put some effort in

    lifting for girls is pure fail tho

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    Originally Posted by eddiehaskell View Post
    almost 100% of the people i've known over 80 from the 90s until now didn't lift. i did know one man who was pretty spry until 90 and he owned a few dumbbells that he used. most always kept a pretty healthy bmi so perhaps that worked in their advantage for preserving joint health and keeping them mobile. slim and relatively small/average in size seems to be the ticket...just look at all those asian women living to 100.
    That's nice to hear but that's anecdotal evidence. You need to post studies that state that "doing cardio alone will prevent sarcopenia".

    I can post studies but if you want to read a news article that cites research , here you go

    htt ps: //w ww. nytim es .com / 2022 / 0 8 /24 /well / move / cardio-strength-training-benefits.html

    "In a new study published in The British Journal of Sports Medicine, researchers found that while doing either aerobic exercise or strength training was associated with a lower risk of dying during the study’s time frame, regularly doing both — one to three hours a week of aerobic exercise and one to two weekly strength training sessions — was associated with an even lower mortality risk."
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    Originally Posted by JohnCena24 View Post
    That's nice to hear but that's anecdotal evidence. You need to post studies that state that "doing cardio alone will prevent sarcopenia".

    I can post studies but if you want to read a news article that cites research , here you go

    htt ps: //w ww. nytim es .com / 2022 / 0 8 /24 /well / move / cardio-strength-training-benefits.html

    "In a new study published in The British Journal of Sports Medicine, researchers found that while doing either aerobic exercise or strength training was associated with a lower risk of dying during the study’s time frame, regularly doing both — one to three hours a week of aerobic exercise and one to two weekly strength training sessions — was associated with an even lower mortality risk."
    you posted an article saying an hour of exercise resulted in lower mortality. well no chit. and one weekly strength training session wouldn't even be considered lifting to most miscers. but yes, as the article mentions probably some benefit to something that puts some stress on the joints/muscles...does that have to be lifting? not sure. could be some body weight exercises or something that requires using muscles to push or pull against resistance. i think it has always just been common sense that doing nothing at older age can be bad.

    the old man routine is what i have advocated for...casually do some machine weights once or twice a week and then just do some activities you enjoy that require movement...could be dancing or walking or anything else. if you want to skip lifting all together just do pull-ups and push ups...perhaps throw on a weighted vest if they get too easy.
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    Originally Posted by JohnCena24 View Post
    That's nice to hear but that's anecdotal evidence. You need to post studies that state that "doing cardio alone will prevent sarcopenia".

    I can post studies but if you want to read a news article that cites research , here you go

    htt ps: //w ww. nytim es .com / 2022 / 0 8 /24 /well / move / cardio-strength-training-benefits.html

    "In a new study published in The British Journal of Sports Medicine, researchers found that while doing either aerobic exercise or strength training was associated with a lower risk of dying during the study’s time frame, regularly doing both — one to three hours a week of aerobic exercise and one to two weekly strength training sessions — was associated with an even lower mortality risk."
    Why don't we see a bunch of jacked seniors then?
    Not trusting the science here
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