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    What's the cheapest good racing sim rig based around a console?

    I would be using my 75" QM8 with my Xbox Series X as the PC.
    I want a comfy racing seat, a good wheel controller and solid feeling pedals, and a good stick shift.

    Can this be done for under $2.5K if I already have the TV and the PC?
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    A decent dd base, wheel and pedals will be $2.5k alone.

    Look into Moza for decent entry level stuff (R9)

    Also don't waste your money if you plan on "simming" with XBox. Get the cheapest stuff possible because none of those games will be realistic at all.

    There's only 2 real sims out there. iRacing and Assetto Corsa.

    rFactor is another one but not as popular as the others.
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    Originally Posted by cobhc View Post
    A decent dd base, wheel and pedals will be $2.5k alone.

    Look into Moza for decent entry level stuff (R9)

    Also don't waste your money if you plan on "simming" with XBox. Get the cheapest stuff possible because none of those games will be realistic at all.

    There's only 2 real sims out there. iRacing and Assetto Corsa.

    rFactor is another one but not as popular as the others.
    Ah so $2.5K for a decent rig is a pipe dream eh? I have to look into those sims you mentioned.

    I saw a rig on youtube based around the PS5 that seemed pretty cool, I've never even used a sim before so I have zero point of reference. I would just love to have a stick shift setup that feels good and responsive.
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    Originally Posted by rollerball View Post
    Ah so $2.5K for a decent rig is a pipe dream eh? I have to look into those sims you mentioned.

    I saw a rig on youtube based around the PS5 that seemed pretty cool, I've never even used a sim before so I have zero point of reference. I would just love to have a stick shift setup that feels good and responsive.
    It depends what you're going for.

    If you're looking to just have fun/arcade type racing games like Gran Turismo, Project Cars, Forza, etc then you can definitely get a very affordable rig.

    If you're looking to get into legit sim racing then you'll want to maximize your experience and give yourself a fighting chance with load cell pedals and good force feedback wheels.
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    Originally Posted by cobhc View Post
    It depends what you're going for.

    If you're looking to just have fun/arcade type racing games like Gran Turismo and Forza then you can definitely get a very affordable rig.

    If you're looking to get into legit sim racing then you'll want to maximize your experience and give yourself a fighting chance with load cell pedals and good force feedback wheels.
    Hmmm, I assume I'm going for the fun/arcade type racing games. But I also drive a manual in real life and would like to re-create that experience accurately in terms of car physics.

    "Force feedback" sounds like the stuff I'd want for the latter.
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    Originally Posted by rollerball View Post
    Hmmm, I assume I'm going for the fun/arcade type racing games. But I also drive a manual in real life and would like to re-create that experience accurately in terms of car physics.

    "Force feedback" sounds like the stuff I'd want for the latter.
    https://mozaracing.com/shop

    Force feedback will translate the road/grip to your hands since you're not going to have the sensation of acceleration. You'll need some but if you're not going for sim racing then you don't need some high end 25nM DD base.

    I'd look into Moza (R5 may be good enough for you but I think you should go R9), I know a few people who use their setups for iRacing and they're actually really decent.

    Stay away from fanatec. I have their V3 inverted pedals and their software support is atrocious although they're well built.

    I'm not sure about which seat to get but all I can tell you is something like a Playseat Evo is going to flex and warp while you're using it and is essentially a waste of money.
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    Originally Posted by cobhc View Post
    https://mozaracing.com/shop

    Force feedback will translate the road/grip to your hands since you're not going to have the sensation of acceleration. You'll need some but if you're not going for sim racing then you don't need some high end 25nM DD base.

    I'd look into Moza (R5 may be good enough for you but I think you should go R9), I know a few people who use their setups for iRacing and they're actually really decent.

    Stay away from fanatec. I have their V3 inverted pedals and their software support is atrocious although they're well built.

    I'm not sure about which seat to get but all I can tell you is something like a Playseat Evo is going to flex and warp while you're using it and is essentially a waste of money.
    Dang I really like the sound of that force feedback giving a sense of road and grip. Anything that would actually impart more of a sense of physical connection to the "road". I definitely want something that is more "plug and play". I will look into Moza and the Playseat Evo. Great starting advice, on spread.

    Originally Posted by ScrillaIsBake View Post
    I got a Thrustmaster TX and a Playseat combo. Upgraded the pedals so it's roughly a 1.2k CAD setup. I use it exclusively on Xbox no problem
    I will look those up, thanks for the suggestion. What racing games do you like to use them on for the Xbox? I'm assuming at least Forza?
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    Originally Posted by ScrillaIsBake View Post
    All the Forzas, Assetto Corsa, Projects Cars 1 & 2. Some NFS games too

    Wreckfest is fun too if you like demolition derby
    So far I've just played Forza and NFS Unbound off of Game Pass which is what has led me to want a racing set up. I want to physically row through gears.
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    I think one of the challenging aspects of building a rig is not being able to test these components out without purchasing them first. Definitely hope to avoid a bunch of trial and error.
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    Originally Posted by rollerball View Post
    I think one of the challenging aspects of building a rig is not being able to test these components out without purchasing them first. Definitely hope to avoid a bunch of trial and error.
    Besides the seat, you're basically going to get about the same from all of them.

    The most important thing is compatibility, reliability, build quality. You can find a ton of info everywhere post covid on it. Simracing is huge now.
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    Originally Posted by ScrillaIsBake View Post
    Yeah I like to drift on FH5 alot lol I got 3 stars on every drift zone, but I just use the paddles on my TX wheel to shift atm. Still gotta buy the shifter, but it's $300 so I'm waiting on a deal to popup to grab one. But it can be used in H pattern or sequential so both options in one is nice

    But if you just use it on PC you can get a cheaper handbrake and shifter from AliExpress srs. They don't work on Xbone tho
    I definitely want a high quality shifter that recreates the feel of my real life one. I've never ordered anything from Aliexpress, I'm like legit suspicious of any website vendor with the prefix "ali" in the name.

    Originally Posted by cobhc View Post
    Besides the seat, you're basically going to get about the same from all of them.

    The most important thing is compatibility, reliability, build quality. You can find a ton of info everywhere post covid on it. Simracing is huge now.
    Yeah lol I can see covid having had a dramatic uptick effect on racing sims.

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    For a rig you can go with Advanced Sim Racing ASR 3

    https://www.advancedsimracing.com/products/asr-3

    I recently, bought the Fanatec CSL DD bundle for $399, and I added a load cell brake pedal for $150

    https://fanatec.com/us-en/detail/index/sArticle/1750

    I didn’t know this when I bought the wheel but Fanatec has a poor QA/Customer service reputation. So far I haven’t had any issues, but if I had known this I may have gone with Moza instead. (My purchase was rather impulsive so I didn’t do much research)

    I highly suggest you get into PC sim racing and avoid console. Console is just not as good. iRacing, Assetto Corsa (W/ mods), and Assetto Corsa Competizione are where it’s at.

    If you’re really interested in playing the Forza series I believe you can play those games on Windows now
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    Originally Posted by bov188 View Post
    For a rig you can go with Advanced Sim Racing ASR 3

    https://www.advancedsimracing.com/products/asr-3

    I recently, bought the Fanatec CSL DD bundle for $399, and I added a load cell brake pedal for $150

    https://fanatec.com/us-en/detail/index/sArticle/1750

    I didn’t know this when I bought the wheel but Fanatec has a poor QA/Customer service reputation. So far I haven’t had any issues, but if I had known this I may have gone with Moza instead. (My purchase was rather impulsive so I didn’t do much research)

    I highly suggest you get into PC sim racing and avoid console. Console is just not as good. iRacing, Assetto Corsa (W/ mods), and Assetto Corsa Competizione are where it’s at.

    If you’re really interested in playing the Forza series I believe you can play those games on Windows now
    cobhc also mentioned issues with Fanatec and to go with Moza, so that's definitely my first move.

    The PC wouldn't definitely add to my budget - any idea what level of PC would be enough to do the job?
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    This is the Aliexpress shifter. It's apparently real good and a pretty popular option on /r/simracing. I see it brought up a lot

    Looks solid, I will definitely check that out.
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    Originally Posted by ScrillaIsBake View Post
    This is the handbrake bought recently for cheap. I sold it for double, but man the quality is solid AF srs. So if you need to cut any corners when piecing it all together handbrake and shifter definitely can be had fairly cheap


    That one looks totally solid too, good to know those can be had for relatively cheep.
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    Originally Posted by rollerball View Post
    cobhc also mentioned issues with Fanatec and to go with Moza, so that's definitely my first move.

    The PC wouldn't definitely add to my budget - any idea what level of PC would be enough to do the job?
    It really depends on what you want. I think you’ll want to run most sims at 1440p 60fps (Minimum). I personally don’t see how you could run sims at 1080p. I’m sure people do but I can’t. Maybe I’m just spoiled.

    You would definitely need a mid to high end gaming PC. If you’re doing a completely new build expect to spend at least $750, probably closer to $1k.

    I have a dedicated PC for sim racing that I pieced together from an old build, and I bought a new GPU and CPU.

    This setup is getting me consistent 120-144 FPS at 1440p on very high - max settings

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