Other game studios are already jealous and throwing shade at Larian for Baldurs Gate3

[bongowongo]

Guess again.

Could only power through 5-6 hours or so of D:OS, a game paraded around as an RPG yet having zero writing/story/choices, but hey at least you get to spend 20 minutes per each battle against 3 bandits, because apparently fuking around with the terrain and barrels/boxes is fun.

I didn't really enjoy DOS1 myself.... But if you're putting that same opinion to DOS2 / Baldurs Gate 3 then you're definitely wrong and it would certainly be a Jay level of a take.

I loved the Divinity series but never played any of the Baldurs. Would it be fine to jump into the 3rd game?

Yeah it's fine. It's a completely new story save for some fan favorite characters returning but you can safely play this game. It has nothing to do with the older baldurs gate games in any shape or form other than just sharing a name.

[bongowongo]

Interestingly enough I thought Larian was kind of a smaller/indie studio. Maybe they were when I bought dos1 back in the day and have grown a lot?

Yeah ballooned during Baldurs Gate 3 ... I think they were at just 150-200 and went up to 400 people working on Baldurs Gate 3.

[phillipsanchez]

It's not unreasonable for consumers to expect games of this caliber from known studio's that have an insane amount of money and are well known in the AAA circles. Teams like CDPR, Bioware, Bethesda etc are all RPG developer's that are either backed up publishers with a lot of money (or just very rich like CDPR) .... There are expectations of them to create a certain type of game but when they release barebone games with none of the "RPG" of course it's gonna get called out.

Fallout New Vegas was one of those few where there was so much systems/mechanics and choices/consequences mattered .... It's still the best fallout game, but Bethesda screwed over Obsidian just because the game didn't reach a certain metacritic score.



If anything it should signal to these publishers affording their dev's time/money/manpower to create games rather than just forcing games out the door.

Of course it's unreasonable to expect these from smaller studios or other indie studios ... Studio's like Owlcat create amazing rpg's, but I think most people are reasonable enough not to expect such a visually polished title.

RPG's developed by AAA studios must be a small fraction.
Was a lot more common 5+ years ago like the studios you mentioned.


I think the article in OP reflects most developers.
All this **** is pretty obvious though, I'm not sure why anybody really needs to spell it out.

[phaginator]

Let me guess, you think Divinity: Original Sin II is one of the greatest CRPGs out there?

Compared to Pathfinder or Pillars it's just much better. DOS2 is one of the highest scoring rpg's ever too

[BraneyGumble]

I didn't really enjoy DOS1 myself.... But if you're putting that same opinion to DOS2 / Baldurs Gate 3 then you're definitely wrong and it would certainly be a Jay level of a take.

You’d have to pay me a considerable sum to play D:OS2 and/or the new mod they’ll be releasing soon.

[Singularity7]

Yeah it's fine. It's a completely new story save for some fan favorite characters returning but you can safely play this game. It has nothing to do with the older baldurs gate games in any shape or form other than just sharing a name.

Sweet. Will start this game next week hopefully. This'll be the new game to cope with after how disappointing Diablo 4 was.

[wasp9166]

I've found what you like in games is highly personality dependant

If you're a deep thinker ,over analyzer type of person ,you'll love dos2


If you're a mindless ,headless chicken ,button masher cod fan boy, you won't


Same has been proven with witcher 3

[phaginator]

I've found what you like in games is highly personality dependant

If you're a deep thinker ,over analyzer type of person ,you'll love dos2


If you're a mindless ,headless chicken ,button masher cod fan boy, you won't


Same has been proven with witcher 3

5e D&D is very simple though and BG3 really explains it well, you can go full autist or not.

[baldbrah]

Sweet. Will start this game next week hopefully. This'll be the new game to cope with after how disappointing Diablo 4 was.

You can play it now. Early access feels like a complete game to me.

[wasp9166]

5e D&D is very simple though and BG3 really explains it well, you can go full autist or not.

I Dont follow

Either way ,doesn't matter

I don't argue on the internet ,got better things to do

I state facts and go on with my day

[bongowongo]

Sweet. Will start this game next week hopefully. This'll be the new game to cope with after how disappointing Diablo 4 was.

You can buy it now in early access and it'll unlock to the full version at release at no extra cost. At least this way you can get a good feel for the classes / mechanics.

Early access gives you full access to Act 1 of the game, so there's no "spoilers" of any kind as what's in the game, will be on final release save for more content + some other changes.

The early access game is already far better than most full priced games lol.... But yeah, its just two weeks to go.

[Vorago]

Guess again.

Could only power through 5-6 hours or so of D:OS, a game paraded around as an RPG yet having zero writing/story/choices, but hey at least you get to spend 20 minutes per each battle against 3 bandits, because apparently fuking around with the terrain and barrels/boxes is fun.

I don't really play CRPGs for the combat. I'm more of a Hack 'n' Slash type of guy. You should see how I beat Arcanum, lol. Brb no wait mode and whack them until they are dead while spamming health potions. I'm usually there for the lore, the dialogue, the story and the vistas. There's always something epic to see and experience in those games.

Planescape and BG 2 actually had interesting characters, but I didn't care for any of the characters in PoE2 and D:OS2. It's the little things in PoE2 that made it fun for me, like renaming an island after clearing it. Also, the lore wasn't bad at all. It's fun when games let you customize your own ship or Caed Nua Keep in the first game, where you can go deeper down the levels and encounter interesting events. The Forgotten Sanctum was actually a fun location to play.

Compared to Pathfinder or Pillars it's just much better. DOS2 is one of the highest scoring rpg's ever too

Agree about Pathfinder (both of the modern ones), but not Pillars. Wrath of the Righteous was alright, though. The characters were more interesting than Kingmaker.

[BraneyGumble]

I don't really play CRPGs for the combat. I'm more of a Hack 'n' Slash type of guy. You should see how I beat Arcanum, lol. Brb no wait mode and whack them until they are dead while spamming health potions. I'm usually there for the lore, the dialogue, the story and the vistas. There's always something epic to see and experience in those games.

Planescape and BG 2 actually had interesting characters, but I didn't care for any of the characters in PoE2 and D:OS2.

Yeah, got the same preferences.

Liked Kingmaker in the beginning but then dropped it around the 2/3rd mark, the kingdom management part was just tedious and didn't really care about most of the companions.

Wrath was epic though (dat soundtrack) and it finally managed to scratch that BG2 itch. Put 300+ hours in over 3+ playthroughs, haven't tried any of the DLCs though. Rogue Trader is a day one buy for me.

[Barteh]

You’d have to pay me a considerable sum to play D:OS2 and/or the new mod they’ll be releasing soon.

Funny how you made up a bunch of lies and when called out on it just completely deflect and pretend it never happened.

[BraneyGumble]

Funny how you made up a bunch of lies and when called out on it just completely deflect and pretend it never happened.

Schizo moment.

I was very clearly talking about the first game, bongo (somewhat) agreed with me and you said you couldn't remember it but had fun.

You need to either refute what I've said or point out the lie.

[Barteh]

Schizo moment.

I was very clearly talking about the first game, bongo (somewhat) agreed with me and you said you couldn't remember it but had fun.

You need to either refute what I've said or point out the lie.

DOS:1 definitely has a story and lots of choices. One of the big things that got me in the series was that almost every problem has multiple solutions. If you don't wanna do a puzzle or quest often you can just brute force your way through it. Overall that game was definitely a bit unpolished though and I can't go back to it and enjoy it after playing so much DOS:2.

I remember on my first playthrough with a buddy we accidentally skipped a semi-big part of the game and at another part instead of doing any quests we just decided to murder the entire village. It's fine to think a game is bad or just not enjoy playing it but it's weird to just make up lies about it. It quite clearly classifies as an RPG that has a storyline and gives the player different choices.