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    Originally Posted by eomrat View Post
    I hate it when you post dumb **** like this. You are normally one of the more reasonable posters here.
    He is on tape saying “I’m automatically attracted to beautiful — I just start kissing them. It’s like a magnet. Just kiss. I don’t even wait. When you’re a star, they let you do it. You can do anything. Grab ’em by the pussy. You can do anything”. In the deposition the attorney asked if he thought he was a star, he answered “yeah”.

    So there are Trump's own statements on the Access Hollywood tape, there are two other women who testified under oath that Trump sexually assaulted them in a similar manner. Carrol told two other women about it at the time who also testified under oath. Trump's main defense was "she's not my type" but he confused her with his wife in photos during his depo. Trump refusing to show up and testify (which the jury is allowed to consider in a civil case). So the tape, plus the woman's testimony, plus the testimony of the other victims, etc. is all way more than enough evidence to sustain a conviction in civil and criminal court.
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    Originally Posted by 7Seconds View Post
    He is on tape saying “I’m automatically attracted to beautiful — I just start kissing them. It’s like a magnet. Just kiss. I don’t even wait. When you’re a star, they let you do it. You can do anything. Grab ’em by the pussy. You can do anything”. In the deposition the attorney asked if he thought he was a star, he answered “yeah”.

    So there are Trump's own statements on the Access Hollywood tape, there are two other women who testified under oath that Trump sexually assaulted them in a similar manner. Carrol told two other women about it at the time who also testified under oath. Trump's main defense was "she's not my type" but he confused her with his wife in photos during his depo. Trump refusing to show up and testify (which the jury is allowed to consider in a civil case). So the tape, plus the woman's testimony, plus the testimony of the other victims, etc. is all way more than enough evidence to sustain a conviction in civil and criminal court.
    And Kristine Blasey Ford is on tape giving testimony that Brett Kavanaugh raped her, doesn't mean it's true. Funny how all those women crawled back into the woodwork never to be heard from again.
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    Originally Posted by Corbi View Post
    And Kristine Blasey Ford is on tape giving testimony that Brett Kavanaugh raped her, doesn't mean it's true. Funny how all those women crawled back into the woodwork never to be heard from again.
    Kavanaugh also answered to those accusations under oath. Trump had the opportunity to do the same and chose not to.
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    Lol @ leftists who think they're brave. Donald Trump is the example of brave. He knew what he was getting himself into when he became president, bad decisions or not. He understood they would use every tactic possible to stop him. It's only brave if the odds are against you.
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    Kavanaugh also answered to those accusations under oath. Trump had the opportunity to do the same and chose not to.
    The under oath bit doesn't mean jack $hit, look how many members of congress and the senate have lied under oath? How many people have testified before both houses and flat out lied.................and not once has any of them ever been nailed for perjury.
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    Originally Posted by Corbi View Post
    The under oath bit doesn't mean jack $hit, look how many members of congress and the senate have lied under oath? How many people have testified before both houses and flat out lied.................and not once has any of them ever been nailed for perjury.
    There was witness testimony under oath, which was cross examined. That's literally the most used kind of evidence in court, and often the only evidence a judge has when deciding a case.
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    Originally Posted by 7Seconds View Post
    He is on tape saying “I’m automatically attracted to beautiful — I just start kissing them. It’s like a magnet. Just kiss. I don’t even wait. When you’re a star, they let you do it. You can do anything. Grab ’em by the pussy. You can do anything”. In the deposition the attorney asked if he thought he was a star, he answered “yeah”.

    So according to you he is a habitual liar and constantly talks, lies, lies, lies but now you believe him.................


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    Originally Posted by 7Seconds View Post
    There was witness testimony under oath, which was cross examined. That's literally the most used kind of evidence in court, and often the only evidence a judge has when deciding a case.
    And it's all lies.
    I had a lemon lawsuit against Harley years ago which I ended up winning, anyways HD had so called expert witnesses who were all in house shills for them & those fuks lied so much on the stand it wasn't funny. Good thing is there were 4-5 HD owners in the jury and they didn't like hearing some of the bs coming out of these peoples pieholes.

    Witnesses, testimony, etc are all bull$hit. Court is nothing like what you see on TV, all the evidence is admitted beforehand, what you can or cannot say is all given to you beforehand, at times you are quite literally forbidden from speaking the truth. I was actually told if I mentioned I bought a Yamaha to replace my broken POS Buell that I could be held for contempt, the jury was never allowed to hear the unvarnished truth.
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    Originally Posted by 7Seconds View Post
    He is on tape saying “I’m automatically attracted to beautiful — I just start kissing them. It’s like a magnet. Just kiss. I don’t even wait. When you’re a star, they let you do it. You can do anything. Grab ’em by the pussy. You can do anything”. In the deposition the attorney asked if he thought he was a star, he answered “yeah”.

    So there are Trump's own statements on the Access Hollywood tape, there are two other women who testified under oath that Trump sexually assaulted them in a similar manner. Carrol told two other women about it at the time who also testified under oath. Trump's main defense was "she's not my type" but he confused her with his wife in photos during his depo. Trump refusing to show up and testify (which the jury is allowed to consider in a civil case). So the tape, plus the woman's testimony, plus the testimony of the other victims, etc. is all way more than enough evidence to sustain a conviction in civil and criminal court.
    I notice you threw "criminal court" in there, but I think you know that is very likely false. Put aside your disdain for Trump and think about what you are saying here. You've said before that you briefly pursued a law degree which I assume grants you the ability to objectively read and comprehend the language for what it is rather than for what you want it to be. He was clearly saying that his status makes women more likely to consent to sexual advances (crude or otherwise) which is quite different than suggesting that he sexually assaults women.
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    Originally Posted by Karl_Hungus View Post
    I notice you threw "criminal court" in there, but I think you know that is very likely false. Put aside your disdain for Trump and think about what you are saying here. You've said before that you briefly pursued a law degree which I assume grants you the ability to objectively read and comprehend the language for what it is rather than for what you want it to be. He was clearly saying that his status makes women more likely to consent to sexual advances (crude or otherwise) which is quite different than suggesting that he sexually assaults women.
    Yes I dropped out of law school after a year. But I certainly was supposed to be a lawyer. My dad was a JAG in the reserves, an ADA, and spent time in criminal defense. My mom is a practicing attorney who also teaches. And I have 3 brothers who are attorneys, two of whom are criminal defense attorneys. So this case has certainly has been a topic of conversation for me with those who are currently speaking to me.

    You are right I don’t know if beyond reasonable doubt would have been met. But I will say that I think your argument works better if his defense was the contact between them was consensual and not that it didn’t happen at all. As the tape obviously doesn’t prove he assaults women but it at least shows Trump believes his status as star makes women more willing to consent to his advances. So the tape, plus the woman's testimony that she did not consent, plus the testimony of the other victims, could be enough to sustain a conviction for sexual assault. And there are plenty of people sitting in jail right now who were convicted solely on witness testimony. Witness testimony is “hard” evidence and a judge/jury is who decides the credibility of that evidence.


    Not that it matters as the statute of limitations had long expired on both criminal and civil charges. She was only able to pursue civil charges since NY enacted a one-year SOL "revival statute." It allowed any victims of sexual assault, which occurred when they were adults, to file a lawsuit between Nov 24, 2022 and Nov 24, 2023 - even if their claim had previously expired under the SOL.
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    Originally Posted by LWW View Post
    So according to you he is a habitual liar and constantly talks, lies, lies, lies but now you believe him.................


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    If he was lying, embellishing, or joking it would clearly be in his best interest to state that for the record in his deposition. But when given the opportunity to do so he instead confirmed that these are his true beliefs.
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    Originally Posted by 7Seconds View Post
    If he was lying, embellishing, or joking it would clearly be in his best interest to state that for the record in his deposition. But when given the opportunity to do so he instead confirmed that these are his true beliefs.


    You also said he is “delusional”.

    He thinks he’s a “star” wonder if that is a lie or delusional thought.
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    Originally Posted by LWW View Post
    You also said he is “delusional”.

    He thinks he’s a “star” wonder if that is a lie or delusional thought.
    Again from his deposition.


    Trump also told Kaplan, who is not related to the judge, that, “Well, historically, that’s true with stars.”
    Kaplan then said, “True with stars that they can grab women?”
    Trump replied, “Well, that’s what — if you look over the last million years, I guess that’s been largely true. Not always, but largely true. Unfortunately or fortunately.”
    Kaplan then said: “And you consider yourself to be a star?”
    Trump answered, “I think you can say that, yeah.”
    When you’re in the middle of a deposition with full knowledge what you say will be used in court, most people would be very selective with their responses.
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    Again from his deposition.




    When you’re in the middle of a deposition with full knowledge what you say will be used in court, most people would be very selective with their responses.



    Joke, there isn’t even a yes or no answer in that.

    From what you described of Trump, he isn’t even compatant to know what he thinks.

    You seem to only look in one place anyway.

    What a waste of time continuing this one with you.
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    Originally Posted by LWW View Post
    Joke, there isn’t even a yes or no answer in that.
    There was a question?

    From what you described of Trump, he isn’t even compatant to know what he thinks.
    Perhaps you’re right and he is just misunderstood. I guess Trump referencing “…a million years” may just have been a poignant exaggeration. Got it.

    Him drawing circles on a weather map to "prove" his earlier false statements may just have been playing smart politics for the optics.

    Him telling people that maybe we should look into injecting disinfectant may just be a slight miscommunication about those medical papers he surely read and fully understood.

    Him telling a crowd that he came up with a saying that was provably used before he was born may just have been him independently coming up with the saying.


    Truly one of the most misunderstood men of our times.

    You seem to only look in one place anyway.
    And where is that?

    What a waste of time continuing this one with you.
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    he isn’t even compatant to know what he thinks.






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    Yes I dropped out of law school after a year. But I certainly was supposed to be a lawyer. My dad was a JAG in the reserves, an ADA, and spent time in criminal defense. My mom is a practicing attorney who also teaches. And I have 3 brothers who are attorneys, two of whom are criminal defense attorneys. So this case has certainly has been a topic of conversation for me with those who are currently speaking to me.
    Guess we know who the black sheep of the family is. Good on your brothers, 4, 5 and 6 seconds for living up to your parent's expectations however.
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    Guess we know who the black sheep of the family is.
    Pretty much. I would not say this anywhere other than an anonymous forum but I’m fairly certain my father is not my biological father. I have absolutely nothing in common with the man.

    Good on your brothers, 4, 5 and 6 seconds for living up to your parent's expectations however.
    Brothers 1, 5, and 6 seconds are the attorneys, 2,3 and 4 are not. And yes the folks are proud.
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    My dad would never be that desperate to not control himself in a fuking department store of all places with "that"!


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    If the rape trial finds him guilty. Women will be coming out of the woodwork with claims against him and I predict The Donald will make that Jell-O pudding guy look like an Altar boy.
    It Was Really Bad': Ex-Trump White House Press Secretary Details Harassment



    Stephanie Grisham, who served as White House press secretary under Donald Trump, said she witnessed the then-president’s sexual harassment firsthand.

    She told CNN that she had to try to protect one staffer in particular who Trump would request accompany him on trips.

    “He one time had one of my other deputies bring her back so that they could look at her ass, is what he said to him,” Grisham said. “I sat down and talked to her at one point, asked her if she was uncomfortable. I tried everything I could to ensure she was never alone with him.”

    Grisham said she spoke to various chiefs of staff, including Mark Meadows, about Trump’s behavior.

    “I think, at the end of the day, what could they do other than go in there and say, ‘This isn’t good, Sir’?” she said. “Donald Trump will do what Donald Trump wants to do.”

    Grisham’s comments came hours after a civil jury found the former president liable for sexual abuse and defamation in a lawsuit brought by writer E. Jean Carroll.

    Grisham said Trump would often comment on people’s looks and speculate about cosmetic surgery.

    “But with this one staffer, it was really bad, to the point that I was extremely uncomfortable,” she said, adding that all senior White House staffers at the time knew about the situation.

    “I did everything I could to keep her off of trips actually, and to stay with her if she was with him alone because I was really nervous about what could happen,” Grisham added.

    She did not name the staffer. Grisham has recounted the details before, including in her book.
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    Pretty much. I would not say this anywhere other than an anonymous forum but I’m fairly certain my father is not my biological father. I have absolutely nothing in common with the man.
    Sounds like I would probably get along with him quite well then

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    Brothers 1, 5, and 6 seconds are the attorneys, 2,3 and 4 are not. And yes the folks are proud.
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    Sounds like I would probably get along with him quite well then



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    E. Jean Carroll is going to sue Donald Trump for more damages after the CNN town hall.









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    Trump Employees Moved Papers Ahead Of FBI’s Mar-A-Lago Search, Report Says


    Two employees of former President Donald Trump moved boxes of papers the day before Federal Bureau of Investigation agents searched for and removed classified documents from Trump’s Florida home in an unannounced raid in August 2022, the Washington Post reported Thursday, days after reports circulated that Special Counsel Jack Smith was wrapping up his investigation into Trump’s potential mishandling of those documents.


    Trump aides separately conducted a “dress rehearsal” to practice moving sensitive papers, even before he was subpoenaed in May 2022, the Post reported, citing unnamed sources familiar with the matter.

    Prosecutors obtained evidence that shows that Trump stored classified documents in a visible place in his office, occasionally showing them to others, the Post reported.


    The timing of the “dress rehearsal” and the moving of boxes was an indication of possible obstruction, the sources told the Post.

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    Obviously things were not going well for Trump on this since some of his previous lawyers have had to testify. Federal judges don't breach lawyer confidentiality using the crime-fraud provision without ample evidence of a crime being committed so getting a judge to break attorney client privilege is a very high hurdle. But this speaks specifically to intent which in a lot of ways is an even higher hurdle for prosecutors to overcome.

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