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    Exclamation Judaism: The most hateful religion on the planet

    Note: This is in no way an attack against world jewry, but against the hateful and psychotic passages written in Judaism's most authoritative work known as the Talmud (teaching).

    Brief Intro: The Talmud is a collection of many books concerning Jewish oral law. it is believed to have been handed down to Moses by God and then passed on to the Prophets of the Tanakh (the Christian Old Testament). It is held in high esteem by Rabbis of many Jewish sects around the world (with the exception of Karaites) and is considered to be of higher authority than the Torah.

    The Talmud contains many hateful and racist slurs against goyim (gentiles, non-jews). Throughout the years, these slurs have been edited from some editions such as the Soncino English, but other translations such as the Steinsaltz are uncensored (Random House stopped publishing that edition). Many of the uncensored passages are psychotic and devoid of any humanity (to say the least). Jewish apologists have denied that actual passages exist, but one can find a Steinsaltz edition in a university or government library and confirm the findings of such hateful passages.

    And like I said before, this is not an attack against world Jewry by me for any reason. This is just me exposing a hateful religion which preaches supremacism and deceit. I, being an atheist, am against religion, so you may think I'm biased, but such hateful passages MUST be shown, so as people could see how hateful Judaism really is. There's alot of Christianity and Islam bashing in this board (indeed, I've participated in it in the past), but neither of those texts compare to the insidious hate of the Talmud.

    Here are some examples of Talmud quotes:

    Where a Jew Should Do Evil

    Moed Kattan 17a: If a Jew is tempted to do evil he should go to a city where he is not known and do the evil there.

    Penalty for Disobeying Rabbis

    Erubin 21b. Whosoever disobeys the rabbis deserves death and will be punished by being boiled in hot excrement in hell.

    Hitting a Jew is the same as hitting God

    Sanhedrin 58b. If a heathen (gentile) hits a Jew, the gentile must be killed.

    O.K. to Cheat Non-Jews

    Sanhedrin 57a . A Jew need not pay a gentile ("Cuthean") the wages owed him for work.

    Jews Have Superior Legal Status

    Baba Kamma 37b. "If an ox of an Israelite gores an ox of a Canaanite there is no liability; but if an ox of a Canaanite gores an ox of an Israelite...the payment is to be in full."

    Jews May Steal from Non-Jews

    Baba Mezia 24a . If a Jew finds an object lost by a gentile ("heathen") it does not have to be returned. (Affirmed also in Baba Kamma 113b). Sanhedrin 76a. God will not spare a Jew who "marries his daughter to an old man or takes a wife for his infant son or returns a lost article to a Cuthean..."

    Jews May Rob and Kill Non-Jews

    Sanhedrin 57a . When a Jew murders a gentile ("Cuthean"), there will be no death penalty. What a Jew steals from a gentile he may keep.

    Baba Kamma 37b. The gentiles are outside the protection of the law and God has "exposed their money to Israel."

    Jews May Lie to Non-Jews

    Baba Kamma 113a. Jews may use lies ("subterfuges") to circumvent a Gentile.

    Non-Jewish Children are Sub-Human

    Yebamoth 98a. All gentile children are animals.

    Abodah Zarah 36b. Gentile girls are in a state of niddah (filth) from birth.

    Abodah Zarah 22a-22b . Gentiles prefer sex with cows.

    HORRIBLE INSULTS AGAINST JESUS OF NAZARETH

    On the website of the Orthodox Jewish Hasidic Lubavitch group--one of the largest in the world--we find the following statement, complete with Talmudic citations:

    "The Talmud (Babylonian edition) records other sins of 'Jesus the Nazarene':

    1) He and his disciples practiced sorcery and black magic, led Jews astray into idolatry, and were sponsored by foreign, gentile powers for the purpose of subverting Jewish worship (Sanhedrin 43a).

    2) He was sexually immoral, worshipped statues of stone (a brick is mentioned), was cut off from the Jewish people for his wickedness, and refused to repent (Sanhedrin 107b; Sotah 47a).

    3) He learned witchcraft in Egypt and, to perform miracles, used procedures that involved cutting his flesh, which is also explicitly banned in the Bible (Shabbos 104b).

    End quote from http://www.noahide.com/yeshu.htm (Lubavitch website) June 20, 2000.

    Check the website yourself for verification, I am not making this **** up.

    More insults to the Christian Messiah:

    Gittin 57a. Says Jesus is in hell, being boiled in "hot excrement."

    Sanhedrin 43a. Says Jesus ("Yeshu" and in Soncino footnote #6, Yeshu "the Nazarene") was executed because he practiced sorcery: "It is taught that on the eve of Passover Jesus was hung, and forty days before this the proclamation was made: Jesus is to be stoned to death because he has practiced sorcery and has lured the people to idolatry...He was an enticer and of such thou shalt not pity or condone."

    Kallah 51a."The elders were once sitting in the gate when two young lads passed by; one covered his head and the other uncovered his head. Of him who uncovered his head Rabbi Eliezer remarked that he is a bastard. Rabbi Joshua remarked that he is the son of a niddah (a child conceived during a woman's menstrual period). Rabbi Akiba said that he is both a bastard and a son of a niddah.

    "They said, 'What induced you to contradict the opinion of your colleagues?' He replied, "I will prove it concerning him." He went to the lad's mother and found her sitting in the market selling beans.

    "He said to her, 'My daughter, if you will answer the question I will put to you, I will bring you to the world to come.' (eternal life). She said to him, 'Swear it to me.'

    "Rabbi Akiba, taking the oath with his lips but annulling it in his heart, said to her, 'What is the status of your son?' She replied, 'When I entered the bridal chamber I was niddah (menstruating) and my husband kept away from me; but my best man had intercourse with me and this son was born to me.' Consequently the child was both a bastard and the son of a niddah.

    "It was declared, '..Blessed be the God of Israel Who Revealed His Secret to Rabbi Akiba..."

    In addition to the theme that God rewards clever liars, the preceding Talmud discussion is actually about Jesus Christ (the bastard boy who "uncovered his head" and was conceived in the filth of menstruation). The boy's adulterous mother in this Talmud story is the mother of Christ, Blessed Mary (called Miriam and sometimes, Miriam the hairdresser, in the Talmud).


    "The Editio Princeps of the complete Code of Talmudic Law, Maimonides' Mishneh Torah -- replete not only with the most offensive precepts against all Gentiles but also with explicit attacks on Christianity and on Jesus (after whose name the author adds piously, 'May the name of the wicked perish')... --Dr. Israel Shahak, Jewish History, Jewish Religion, p. 21.

    "The Talmud contains a few explicit references to Jesus...These references are certainly not complimentary...There seems little doubt that the account of the execution of Jesus on the eve of Passover does refer to the Christian Jesus...The passage in which Jesus' punishment in hell is described also seems to refer to the Christian Jesus. It is a piece of anti-Christian polemic dating from the post-70 CE period..." --Hyam Maccoby, Judaism on Trial, pp. 26-27.

    "According to the Talmud, Jesus was executed by a proper rabbinical court for idolatry, inciting other Jews to idolatry, and contempt of rabbinical authority. All classical Jewish sources which mention his execution are quite happy to take responsibility for it; in the talmudic account the Romans are not even mentioned.

    "The more popular accounts--which were nevertheless taken quite seriously--such as the notorious Toldot Yeshu are even worse, for in addition to the above crimes they accuse him of witchcraft. The very name 'Jesus' was for Jews a symbol of all that is abominable and this popular tradition still persists...

    "The Hebrew form of the name Jesus--Yeshu--was interpreted as an acronym for the curse, 'may his name and memory be wiped out,' which is used as an extreme form of abuse. In fact, anti-zionist Orthodox Jews (such as Neturei Karta) sometimes refer to Herzl as 'Herzl Jesus' and I have found in religious zionist writings expressions such as "Nasser Jesus" and more recently 'Arafat Jesus." --Dr. Israel Shahak, Jewish History, Jewish Religion, pp. 97- 98, 118.

    What kind of sick mind dreams of boiling their enemies in feces? Yet these are the kinds of teachings that Jews are exposed to.

    I've got more Talmud quotes, but this is to give people an idea of how SICK AND FILTHY AND PSYCHOTIC the jewish oral law is. Shame on ANYONE who actually subscribes to such unholy filth known as the Talmud.
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    Some guy named Diesel66 just negged me and said that "this **** has been proven wrong many times."

    First, show me the proof it's been refuted.

    Second, don't show me the fallacious ADL apology because that's a bunch of crap.
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    All those stupid websites say is that the Talmud doesn't refer to Jesus, that's it. A censored Soncino edition of course will make no mention.

    Do I care? No. I'm not Christian, but ANY religion which believes that its followers are to be punished in **** and SEMEN is should immediately be discarded and forgotten. Like I said, what kind of sick mind comes up with this psychotic garbage?
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    The Talmud is not Law, the Tora is law. The Talmud is a history of scholarly discussion. On every page there is a rebutale to the arguments presented, or more to the point another opinion. You are cherry picking.

    p.s. Just because you say " this is not an attack on Jewry" doesn't make you sound any less ignorant.

    Why not take a look at your Christian ancestors who killed every non-christian in jeurusalim during their crusades, or the ones in America that killed all of those woman that they claimed were witches.

    ** wow, I feel bad for you. I hope you are steril, I would hate to think of your hatefullness getting passed down to others.
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    BTW that first link you posted is nothing but incoherent ramblings, and I had a hard time trying to discern what the author was actually trying to say.
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    Originally Posted by tabloid View Post
    The Talmud is not Law, the Tora is law. The Talmud is a history of scholarly discussion. On every page there is a rebutale to the arguments presented, or more to the point another opinion. You are cherry picking.

    p.s. Just because you say " this is not an attack on Jewry" doesn't make you sound any less ignorant.

    Why not take a look at your Christian ancestors who killed every non-christian in jeurusalim during their crusades, or the ones in America that killed all of those woman that they claimed were witches.
    I'm not a Christian you ****ing moron. If you do a search on my post history I am almost ALWAYS in arguments with Christians regarding their beliefs as well.

    So **** off with your lame assumption based tu quoque fallacious arguments.
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    Note: This is in no way an attack against world jewry
    That is one of the most pathetic types of defense you could use. I hope diesel finds a bug and negs you twice.
    Hilarious. philhyp calls me fat, but has the same size waist at 30lbs lighter.

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    This reminds me of the common Muslim response when someone attacks the Qur'an.

    "durrr ur takin dose verses out of da contaxt!! we rly have beootifull religion and were such nize ppl its just dat da leaderz of our kountry done abused they pow0r!"
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    Gittin 57a. Says Jesus is in hell, being boiled in "hot excrement."

    This is wrong becuase Jews don't believe in hell.

    Go find a clan meeting.

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    Originally Posted by Big Hype View Post
    All those stupid websites say is that the Talmud doesn't refer to Jesus, that's it. A censored Soncino edition of course will make no mention.

    Do I care? No. I'm not Christian, but ANY religion which believes that its followers are to be punished in **** and SEMEN is should immediately be discarded and forgotten. Like I said, what kind of sick mind comes up with this psychotic garbage?

    You are a pathetic (and tiny) hate-monger; not unusual for a mexican who lives off of chicklets and chupacabra meat. You're probably brand new to the Internet, living in mexico and all... but you'll find many hate sights that will stir your interests and confirm all your prejudices. That's the beauty of the INternet. You can believe anything you want and get instant justification. Show me, in the Talmud, where it says any of those things..oh, and point it out in the Hebrew text..... Just as I thought.
    idiot.

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    Originally Posted by Geography View Post
    That is one of the most pathetic types of defense you could use. I hope diesel finds a bug and negs you twice.
    It's not, considering that Jewry is divided into secular and religious.

    And considering that not all jews on Earth are observant, you can clearly come to the realization that I'm not attacking Jews, but JUDAISM (there is a difference, even jews know this).

    So please, take your contempt somewhere else. Unless you're one of those people who groups all criticism into a personal attack (ironically you're guilty of this when you hoped that a bug in the system would allow two negs for one post).

    No ideology is above criticism. NONE. I am criticizing the Jewish IDEOLOGY, not the Jewish people. Ideologies can be changed.
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    Originally Posted by Porn Producer View Post
    You are a pathetic (and tiny) hate-monger; not unusual for a mexican who lives off of chicklets and chupacabra meat. You're probably brand new to the Internet, living in mexico and all... but you'll find many hate sights that will stir your interests and confirm all your prejudices. That's the beauty of the INternet. You can believe anything you want and get instant justification. Show me, in the Talmud, where it says any of those things..oh, and point it out in the Hebrew text..... Just as I thought.
    idiot.
    Guy, you're obviously a troll with your early posts being in the Religion and Politics section. Being a racist isn't helping your cause, either.
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    Originally Posted by tabloid View Post
    Gittin 57a. Says Jesus is in hell, being boiled in "hot excrement."

    This is wrong becuase Jews don't believe in hell.

    Go find a clan meeting.
    Really? Then what is this GEHENNA place that people go to if they don't inherit Olam Haba (The world to come)?

    There is no Klan where I'm from (nor am I white).

    You're Jewish. This does not mean you're above criticism. This is as fallacious as Muslims calling everyone who disagrees with their ideology an "Islamophobe."
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    Originally Posted by Porn Producer View Post
    You are a pathetic (and tiny) hate-monger; not unusual for a mexican who lives off of chicklets and chupacabra meat. You're probably brand new to the Internet, living in mexico and all... but you'll find many hate sights that will stir your interests and confirm all your prejudices. That's the beauty of the INternet. You can believe anything you want and get instant justification. Show me, in the Talmud, where it says any of those things..oh, and point it out in the Hebrew text..... Just as I thought.
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    Originally Posted by Big Hype View Post
    This reminds me of the common Muslim response when someone attacks the Qur'an.

    "durrr ur takin dose verses out of da contaxt!! we rly have beootifull religion and were such nize ppl its just dat da leaderz of our kountry done abused they pow0r!"
    I don't think any Muslim has ever said that, at least not the Muslim regulars. I've been posting here for a while now, and I've seen countless threads about "teh violence in teh Qur'an," and not once have I seen a Muslim twist things around. If it's in the book, it's in the book, no matter how controversial it may seem.


    Anyways, at least this guy hates all religions equally.
    "The worshipers of the Most Gracious are those who tread the earth gently, and when the ignorant speak to them, they only utter peace. In the privacy of the night, they meditate on their Lord and fall prostrate."
    "And they say, "Our Lord, let our spouses and children be a source of joy for us, and keep us in the forefront of the righteous." These are the ones who attain Paradise in return for their steadfastness; they are received therein with joyous greetings and peace."
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    which ideology? Reformed, orthodox, conservative, ashcanazy, safartic, etc... etc.
    and yes, if you can post the Hebrew from the Talmud that would be great. Highly unlikely that you will find much, but what evs. No one on BB.com is going to change your view point. If you are a monotheist ( that means one god), your religion has stolen that idea from the jews.

    p.s. I'm not jewish. I'm just vastly more educated than you.

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    Originally Posted by EOY View Post
    I don't think any Muslim has ever said that, at least not the Muslim regulars. I've been posting here for a while now, and I've seen countless threads about "teh violence in teh Qur'an," and not once have I seen a Muslim twist things around. If it's in the book, it's in the book, no matter how controversial it may seem.


    Anyways, at least this guy hates all religions equally.
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    Originally Posted by tabloid View Post
    which ideology? Reformed, orthodox, conservative, ashcanazy, safartic, etc... etc.
    WTF are "ashcanazy" and "safartic?"
    and yes, if you can post the Hebrew from the Talmud
    What good would posting the Hebrew do? Nobody here understands Hebrew, and obviously the translators saw it fit to change it to English as such.

    Highly unlikely that you will find much,
    Highly unlikely that it would help, as nobody here (save maybe a couple people) understand Hebrew.
    but what evs.
    ??
    If you are a monotheist ( that means one god), your religion has stolen that idea from the jews.


    And the Jews stole that from Zoroastrianism. Your point? I don't even believe in God, anyway.



    p.s. I'm not jewish. I'm just vastly more educated than you.
    I highly doubt that. You're nothing more than someone who argues from an emotional standpoint and resorts to logical fallacies. Hardly what I would consider "educated."
    If you don't like what I have to say, you should probably move to Israel.

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    Originally Posted by Big Hype View Post
    It's not, considering that Jewry is divided into secular and religious.

    And considering that not all jews on Earth are observant, you can clearly come to the realization that I'm not attacking Jews, but JUDAISM (there is a difference, even jews know this).

    So please, take your contempt somewhere else. Unless you're one of those people who groups all criticism into a personal attack (ironically you're guilty of this when you hoped that a bug in the system would allow two negs for one post).

    No ideology is above criticism. NONE. I am criticizing the Jewish IDEOLOGY, not the Jewish people. Ideologies can be changed.
    All of the pollution in Mexico City has clearly dimmed your IQ. If you are going to be a bigot at least be an honest bigot. Generating anti Semitic hate, and then stating that you have no problem with Jews makes you look like an ignorant little twit.

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    I can read hebrew. Post it.

    Ashkenazi = a jew of Eastern European desent

    Sephardic = a jew of Iberian Pennisula. These were the original Zionists of modern Isreal

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    Originally Posted by Big Hype View Post
    Note: This is in no way an attack against world jewry, but against the hateful and psychotic passages written in Judaism's most authoritative work known as the Talmud (teaching).

    Brief Intro: The Talmud is a collection of many books concerning Jewish oral law. it is believed to have been handed down to Moses by God and then passed on to the Prophets of the Tanakh (the Christian Old Testament). It is held in high esteem by Rabbis of many Jewish sects around the world (with the exception of Karaites) and is considered to be of higher authority than the Torah.

    The Talmud contains many hateful and racist slurs against goyim (gentiles, non-jews). Throughout the years, these slurs have been edited from some editions such as the Soncino English, but other translations such as the Steinsaltz are uncensored (Random House stopped publishing that edition). Many of the uncensored passages are psychotic and devoid of any humanity (to say the least). Jewish apologists have denied that actual passages exist, but one can find a Steinsaltz edition in a university or government library and confirm the findings of such hateful passages.

    And like I said before, this is not an attack against world Jewry by me for any reason. This is just me exposing a hateful religion which preaches supremacism and deceit. I, being an atheist, am against religion, so you may think I'm biased, but such hateful passages MUST be shown, so as people could see how hateful Judaism really is. There's alot of Christianity and Islam bashing in this board (indeed, I've participated in it in the past), but neither of those texts compare to the insidious hate of the Talmud.

    Here are some examples of Talmud quotes:

    Where a Jew Should Do Evil

    Moed Kattan 17a: If a Jew is tempted to do evil he should go to a city where he is not known and do the evil there.

    Penalty for Disobeying Rabbis

    Erubin 21b. Whosoever disobeys the rabbis deserves death and will be punished by being boiled in hot excrement in hell.

    Hitting a Jew is the same as hitting God

    Sanhedrin 58b. If a heathen (gentile) hits a Jew, the gentile must be killed.

    O.K. to Cheat Non-Jews

    Sanhedrin 57a . A Jew need not pay a gentile ("Cuthean") the wages owed him for work.

    Jews Have Superior Legal Status

    Baba Kamma 37b. "If an ox of an Israelite gores an ox of a Canaanite there is no liability; but if an ox of a Canaanite gores an ox of an Israelite...the payment is to be in full."

    Jews May Steal from Non-Jews

    Baba Mezia 24a . If a Jew finds an object lost by a gentile ("heathen") it does not have to be returned. (Affirmed also in Baba Kamma 113b). Sanhedrin 76a. God will not spare a Jew who "marries his daughter to an old man or takes a wife for his infant son or returns a lost article to a Cuthean..."

    Jews May Rob and Kill Non-Jews

    Sanhedrin 57a . When a Jew murders a gentile ("Cuthean"), there will be no death penalty. What a Jew steals from a gentile he may keep.

    Baba Kamma 37b. The gentiles are outside the protection of the law and God has "exposed their money to Israel."

    Jews May Lie to Non-Jews

    Baba Kamma 113a. Jews may use lies ("subterfuges") to circumvent a Gentile.

    Non-Jewish Children are Sub-Human

    Yebamoth 98a. All gentile children are animals.

    Abodah Zarah 36b. Gentile girls are in a state of niddah (filth) from birth.

    Abodah Zarah 22a-22b . Gentiles prefer sex with cows.

    HORRIBLE INSULTS AGAINST JESUS OF NAZARETH

    On the website of the Orthodox Jewish Hasidic Lubavitch group--one of the largest in the world--we find the following statement, complete with Talmudic citations:

    "The Talmud (Babylonian edition) records other sins of 'Jesus the Nazarene':

    1) He and his disciples practiced sorcery and black magic, led Jews astray into idolatry, and were sponsored by foreign, gentile powers for the purpose of subverting Jewish worship (Sanhedrin 43a).

    2) He was sexually immoral, worshipped statues of stone (a brick is mentioned), was cut off from the Jewish people for his wickedness, and refused to repent (Sanhedrin 107b; Sotah 47a).

    3) He learned witchcraft in Egypt and, to perform miracles, used procedures that involved cutting his flesh, which is also explicitly banned in the Bible (Shabbos 104b).

    End quote from http://www.noahide.com/yeshu.htm (Lubavitch website) June 20, 2000.

    Check the website yourself for verification, I am not making this **** up.

    More insults to the Christian Messiah:

    Gittin 57a. Says Jesus is in hell, being boiled in "hot excrement."

    Sanhedrin 43a. Says Jesus ("Yeshu" and in Soncino footnote #6, Yeshu "the Nazarene") was executed because he practiced sorcery: "It is taught that on the eve of Passover Jesus was hung, and forty days before this the proclamation was made: Jesus is to be stoned to death because he has practiced sorcery and has lured the people to idolatry...He was an enticer and of such thou shalt not pity or condone."

    Kallah 51a."The elders were once sitting in the gate when two young lads passed by; one covered his head and the other uncovered his head. Of him who uncovered his head Rabbi Eliezer remarked that he is a bastard. Rabbi Joshua remarked that he is the son of a niddah (a child conceived during a woman's menstrual period). Rabbi Akiba said that he is both a bastard and a son of a niddah.

    "They said, 'What induced you to contradict the opinion of your colleagues?' He replied, "I will prove it concerning him." He went to the lad's mother and found her sitting in the market selling beans.

    "He said to her, 'My daughter, if you will answer the question I will put to you, I will bring you to the world to come.' (eternal life). She said to him, 'Swear it to me.'

    "Rabbi Akiba, taking the oath with his lips but annulling it in his heart, said to her, 'What is the status of your son?' She replied, 'When I entered the bridal chamber I was niddah (menstruating) and my husband kept away from me; but my best man had intercourse with me and this son was born to me.' Consequently the child was both a bastard and the son of a niddah.

    "It was declared, '..Blessed be the God of Israel Who Revealed His Secret to Rabbi Akiba..."

    In addition to the theme that God rewards clever liars, the preceding Talmud discussion is actually about Jesus Christ (the bastard boy who "uncovered his head" and was conceived in the filth of menstruation). The boy's adulterous mother in this Talmud story is the mother of Christ, Blessed Mary (called Miriam and sometimes, Miriam the hairdresser, in the Talmud).


    "The Editio Princeps of the complete Code of Talmudic Law, Maimonides' Mishneh Torah -- replete not only with the most offensive precepts against all Gentiles but also with explicit attacks on Christianity and on Jesus (after whose name the author adds piously, 'May the name of the wicked perish')... --Dr. Israel Shahak, Jewish History, Jewish Religion, p. 21.

    "The Talmud contains a few explicit references to Jesus...These references are certainly not complimentary...There seems little doubt that the account of the execution of Jesus on the eve of Passover does refer to the Christian Jesus...The passage in which Jesus' punishment in hell is described also seems to refer to the Christian Jesus. It is a piece of anti-Christian polemic dating from the post-70 CE period..." --Hyam Maccoby, Judaism on Trial, pp. 26-27.

    "According to the Talmud, Jesus was executed by a proper rabbinical court for idolatry, inciting other Jews to idolatry, and contempt of rabbinical authority. All classical Jewish sources which mention his execution are quite happy to take responsibility for it; in the talmudic account the Romans are not even mentioned.

    "The more popular accounts--which were nevertheless taken quite seriously--such as the notorious Toldot Yeshu are even worse, for in addition to the above crimes they accuse him of witchcraft. The very name 'Jesus' was for Jews a symbol of all that is abominable and this popular tradition still persists...

    "The Hebrew form of the name Jesus--Yeshu--was interpreted as an acronym for the curse, 'may his name and memory be wiped out,' which is used as an extreme form of abuse. In fact, anti-zionist Orthodox Jews (such as Neturei Karta) sometimes refer to Herzl as 'Herzl Jesus' and I have found in religious zionist writings expressions such as "Nasser Jesus" and more recently 'Arafat Jesus." --Dr. Israel Shahak, Jewish History, Jewish Religion, pp. 97- 98, 118.

    What kind of sick mind dreams of boiling their enemies in feces? Yet these are the kinds of teachings that Jews are exposed to.

    I've got more Talmud quotes, but this is to give people an idea of how SICK AND FILTHY AND PSYCHOTIC the jewish oral law is. Shame on ANYONE who actually subscribes to such unholy filth known as the Talmud.
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    All of the pollution in Mexico City has clearly dimmed your IQ. If you are going to be a bigot at least be an honest bigot. Generating anti Semitic hate, and then stating that you have no problem with Jews makes you look like an ignorant little twit.
    How exactly is that bigotry? That he was disturbed after reading some of these horrible passages (even if they were all completely false, for all you know he genuinely thought they were in the Talmud) conveys bigotry to you?

    Criticizing Judaism is no more generating anti-Semitic hate than criticizing Islam is. Just because he dislikes certain things in Judaism (or even Judaism in its entirety, for that matter) doesn't mean he finds something inherently wrong with Jews as a people.
    "The worshipers of the Most Gracious are those who tread the earth gently, and when the ignorant speak to them, they only utter peace. In the privacy of the night, they meditate on their Lord and fall prostrate."
    "And they say, "Our Lord, let our spouses and children be a source of joy for us, and keep us in the forefront of the righteous." These are the ones who attain Paradise in return for their steadfastness; they are received therein with joyous greetings and peace."
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    Originally Posted by EOY View Post
    How exactly is that bigotry? That he was disturbed after reading some of these horrible passages (even if they were all completely false, for all you know he genuinely thought they were in the Talmud) conveys bigotry to you?

    Criticizing Judaism is no more generating anti-Semitic hate than criticizing Islam is. Just because he dislikes certain things in Judaism (or even Judaism in its entirety, for that matter) doesn't mean he finds something inherently wrong with Jews as a people.
    Judaism: the most hateful religion on the planet. Hmm. This goes beyond criticism. If i started a thread titled Mexicans: the most evil race on the planet I think that I would be viewed as a bigot, and rightfully so. I have no problem with criticism, but this goes way beyond that.

    His ignorance and lack of research led him to these conclusions. So now People are justified in spouting off on all manner of topics based upon false information. This sounds like a bit of a shaky defense.

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    it's bigotry, or in the least ignorance because he read one passage, didn't do any further research and passed judgement on an entire group of people. It would be the same if he read the crussifiction story and said that all Romans are evil. Or if he thought all Saudi's were terrorists because 20 of them crashed 2 planes into 2 buildings.

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    How exactly is that bigotry? That he was disturbed after reading some of these horrible passages (even if they were all completely false, for all you know he genuinely thought they were in the Talmud) conveys bigotry to you?

    Criticizing Judaism is no more generating anti-Semitic hate than criticizing Islam is. Just because he dislikes certain things in Judaism (or even Judaism in its entirety, for that matter) doesn't mean he finds something inherently wrong with Jews as a people.
    What the OP posted is bigotry because he subsequently refused to even consider rebuttals presented to him in following posts. He seems perfectly content with his opinion formed from whatever hate website he got the fake Talmud quotations from. If that's not bigotry, I don't know what is.
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    In before they lock this one.

    There are no words to describe the unbelievable stupidity of thought that would generate this thread. I make it a point to not waste my time withthis things because they are not too productive but when I came across this one; I had to make a pause.

    First of all should I say that to call Judaism hatefull is a most laughable statement. Please examine the rest of the organized religions in the world before making such an irresposible statement.

    Second: You are soooo missinformed. The most authoriatative Word in Judaism is called the TORAH or Old Testament for Christians. The Talmud; which you cite are interpretations of Torah; many of which contradict each other and to which you may or may not subscribe depending on your afilliation within Judaism.

    Third: Everyone is entitled to their opinion but to make statements as the ones you have made is downright irresponsible. What is your point withthis thread? To proclaim how ignorant you are? It seems that that the hateful individual is you.
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    Originally Posted by 1devil View Post
    Judaism: the most hateful religion on the planet. Hmm. This goes beyond criticism. If i started a thread titled Mexicans: the most evil race on the planet I think that I would be viewed as a bigot, and rightfully so. I have no problem with criticism, but this goes way beyond that.

    His ignorance and lack of research led him to these conclusions. So now People are justified in spouting off on all manner of topics based upon false information. This sounds like a bit of a shaky defense.
    Judaism is a religion, an ideology. The Talmud is text. "Mexican" is a nationality. A Mexican is a person. I'm not sure how you managed to miss the difference. One case is a criticism of a religion, the other case is a generalization on an entire group of people. Are you even serious?
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