Settle this- If they Fought today- Both in their prime- Ali or Tyson?

[Obvnotgay]

Reading comprehension is a joke to you?

this

[kusok]

Pros and other actual competitive fighters talk about this stuff daily in boxing and MMA gyms between workouts. They are almost 100% unanimous. No one beats prime Tyson in boxing. Like no one beats prime Fedor in MMA. Those are the measuring sticks that everyone else is compared to.

[Obvnotgay]

Pros and other actual competitive fighters talk about this stuff daily in boxing and MMA gyms between workouts. They are almost 100% unanimous. No one beats prime Tyson in boxing. Like no one beats prime Fedor in MMA. Those are the measuring sticks that everyone else is compared to.

When I watch most top tier boxers name their fave boxers, they don’t mention tyson. When I say top tier I’m talking world champions etc.

[Cleveland33]

If they fought ten times I bet it would end up 5-5, one might eek out a sixth.

Basically, I think it would be a toss up

[kusok]

When I watch most top tier boxers name their fave boxers, they don’t mention tyson. When I say top tier I’m talking world champions etc.

I can certainly understand that and possible reasons for saying that: dislike for Tyson personally, not talking about specifically PRIME years, jealousy etc. But Ali was clear: Tyson would kill me. Ali’s actual words.

I’m talking about fighters who are not compared to Tyson, and thus have no reason to sheit on him. They are objective.

[ninetynine8]

But Ali was clear: Tyson would kill me. Ali’s actual words.

Liar. He said was "If tyson caught me i'd go to sleep, that's if he caught me".

That's a bit different from, 'he'd kill me', don't you think?

Also wtf is your point supposed to be exactly? Tyson said ALI is the goat whenever he's asked. It's called respect

[Evil_D]

Rocky Balboa

[WoofieNugget]

Liar. He said was "If tyson caught me i'd go to sleep, that's if he caught me".

That's a bit different from, 'he'd kill me', don't you think?

Also wtf is your point supposed to be exactly? Tyson said ALI is the goat whenever he's asked. It's called respect

Two different styles. IF Tyson caught him with a punch Ali would go down. Ali would work on wearing him down and getting him frustrated, then look for openings. Would either be an Ali win around round 8-10 or a Tyson knockout in the early rounds likely.

[plsmire]

Anyone with a brain knows Tyson annihilates Ali.

Ali went life and death with Joe Frazier, nowhere near as skilled, as fast, as powerful as Tyson.

Foreman was a mummy and had no stamina at that age when Ali beat him, fell for such a simple tactic.

Even Tysons trainer told Ali how Tyson would beat Ali before he ever laid eyes on Tyson:

[Dave22reborn]

A washed up Buster flattened him , a jumped up light heavy weight old man Holyfield bullied and schooled him and Lennox Lewis was just having a laugh when they fought

Talking about both of them in their prime Skippy.

[Dave22reborn]

Pros and other actual competitive fighters talk about this stuff daily in boxing and MMA gyms between workouts. They are almost 100% unanimous. No one beats prime Tyson in boxing. Like no one beats prime Fedor in MMA. Those are the measuring sticks that everyone else is compared to.

MMA and boxing is always evolving though.

[bicmane123]

Anyone with a brain knows Tyson annihilates Ali.

Ali went life and death with Joe Frazier, nowhere near as skilled, as fast, as powerful as Tyson.

Foreman was a mummy and had no stamina at that age when Ali beat him, fell for such a simple tactic.

Even Tysons trainer told Ali how Tyson would beat Ali before he ever laid eyes on Tyson:

Nahhhh Ali >>>>>> Holyfield.

Holyfield >> Tyson

Also, Foreman and Frazier >>> Tyson

[ThatGuy950]

Ali is nowhere as strong as Lewis and Holyfield. Mike defeated plenty of fighters that were taller and had a longer reach.

Mike is from a different era and a whole different category of fighter, if his head was in it then there’s no stopping him

[Kay4Kool]

Different era w/ a better drug cocktail

If you got Ali on some supps, Ali all day

Also Ali lost his prime years to draft evasion

[H00J]

Pros and other actual competitive fighters talk about this stuff daily in boxing and MMA gyms between workouts. They are almost 100% unanimous. No one beats prime Tyson in boxing. Like no one beats prime Fedor in MMA. Those are the measuring sticks that everyone else is compared to.

Fedor was a work (srs)

Lots of shady **** happened with Pride (srs)

Jon Jones would destroy him
So would Cormier

And countless others

I would say prime Jon Jones was unbeatable

[bicmane123]

Fedor was a work (srs)

Lots of shady **** happened with Pride (srs)

Jon Jones would destroy him
So would Cormier

And countless others

I would say prime Jon Jones was unbeatable

Imagine disrespecting Fedor. You must love Conor.

[TDR24]

I think that young/prime Tyson was just too explosive and brutal. Ali was incredible and could absorb a beating, but prime Tyson was just a different beast altogether.
Tyson for me.

[H00J]

Imagine disrespecting Fedor. You must love Conor.

i like fedor

Don’t really like Conor but I prefer him over cringe ***s like chandler and paddy

[plsmire]

Nahhhh Ali >>>>>> Holyfield.

Holyfield >> Tyson

Also, Foreman and Frazier >>> Tyson

Lmao, watch young foreman fight and watch Mike fight, world of a difference in skill and speed.

Also, Holyfield was roided out and that was Tyson already past his prime. Tyson had already split with his trainer and they fought 5 years after Tyson already lost to Buster Douglas. During the Doulas fight, Tyson didn’t even train for that fight, was getting owned in sparring.

Anyone with eyes can see Tyson was leagues above Ali’s era.

Ali had a very basic stick and move style which was great for his era cos he was taller than his average opponent thus everyone was trying to get in. But a slow ass Joe Frazier who got wrecked by Foreman inside 2 rounds gave him hell.

Look at how Joe just stands there to land his punches, basic as fk.



Meanwhile look at the angles Tyson creates, better footwork, better punch placement, better head movement, faster in feet and hands, hits harder and way more explosive.

[StarfaceChris]

Boxing match probably Ali if it's a brawl I don't see how tyson doesn't win.

[outfoxxed]

tyson would destroy ali. ali is the most overrated boxer of all time. people only care about him cause of his political ****

[LeakyQuesadilla]

Liston, Foreman, Ali would all wipe the floor with Tyson.

His tough guy intimidation tactics wouldn't work and Tyson would crumble because he's a mental midget

[ninetynine8]

tyson would destroy ali. ali is the most overrated boxer of all time. people only care about him cause of his political ****

It's literally the other way around. Mike Tyson is the most overrated fighter of all time. He never came back from adversity in the ring.

Any negative criticism comes down to 'muh prime'... LIke seriously, just stfu. MAYBE he would have continued to dominate if he didn't go to prison, guess what? We'll never know. So stfu and stop using your magic wand as an excuse

[PrimarisIn]

On xbox fight night round 4 i beat ali with tyson in the third on goat difficulty

[plsmire]

It's literally the other way around. Mike Tyson is the most overrated fighter of all time. He never came back from adversity in the ring.

Any negative criticism comes down to 'muh prime'... LIke seriously, just stfu. MAYBE he would have continued to dominate if he didn't go to prison, guess what? We'll never know. So stfu and stop using your magic wand as an excuse

It’s called the eye test.

Tyson destroyed Holmes whole beat Ali “muh prime”.

Obviously primes exists. Tyson had a very short explosive run, but there is no doubt that he had issues and soon as he fired his trainers, he was fked. His trainer for the Douglas fight was putting water bags on his swollen eye ffs lmao. Getting knocked down in sparring and partying with hookers the night before the fight.

And you want to act like that’s the same Tyson that destroyed Trevor Berbick and Spinks.

[ninetynine8]

It’s called the eye test.

Tyson destroyed Holmes whole beat Ali “muh prime”.

Obviously primes exists. Tyson had a very short explosive run, but there is no doubt that he had issues and soon as he fired his trainers, he was fked. His trainer for the Douglas fight was putting water bags on his swollen eye ffs lmao. Getting knocked down in sparring and partying with hookers the night before the fight.

And you want to act like that’s the same Tyson that destroyed Trevor Berbick and Spinks.

Brb, an aged Ali with Parkinson's is the same as a late 20s Tyson in terms of prime. That comparison just proves how overrated your boy is.

If Ali was in Tysons shoes he would have got back on his feet and continued to dominate. Having a **** mental is part of a fighters game. Since you brought up Frazier, Ali beat him TWICE after losing to him. Tyson didn't avenge any losses.

[1hardgainer]

Initially I thought Tyson would win easily but when I think about it more how Tyson lost to Buster Douglas and how Ali beat Foreman I'm thinking Ali might have had a chance.

[kusok]

Fedor was a work (srs)

Lots of shady **** happened with Pride (srs)

Jon Jones would destroy him
So would Cormier

And countless others

I would say prime Jon Jones was unbeatable

Then why fight at 205? He was bigger than fedor.

Prime fedor was goat. Drug use in pride was crazy, prime crocop beats jones too. Prime nog has 50% chance too. If he gets his hands on jones jones is done. If jones does his run away while sticking fingers in your eyes, he wins vs nog.

I can tell you don’t roll lol. You talking sheit on fedor. A sign of ignorance. Just listen how actual MMA legends speak of him. Complete worship.

[RapidoYFurioso]

Initially I thought Tyson would win easily but when I think about it more how Tyson lost to Buster Douglas and how Ali beat Foreman I'm thinking Ali might have had a chance.

that wasn’t prime Tyson ffs

Can you morons not read the title?


Ali lost to a guy who had only had 7 fights. What about that?

[ninetynine8]

that wasn’t prime Ali ffs

Can you morons not read the title?


Ali lost to a guy who had only had 7 fights. What about that?

Hey dummy, I'm guessing you meant Tyson


Ali loses AND THEN AVENGES the loss at 36 after he's already considered the goat

Is the same as Tyson losing to a guy when he was 24 and never avenging? ****ING LOL you Tyson copers are on a different level. Brb when you're 24 you're not in your prime.