Misc Firearms Crew LXXXII: Stamp Collecting Brandon Style...Bracing for Ultra Amnesty

[pr0digy11]

Would you trust your life with a 2011 in a SHTF/WROL situation?

Let's say it's a Gucci Staccato.

I don’t see why not

Whatever you use just make sure you train with it and know it in and out

[Bo_Flecks]

I don’t see why not

Whatever you use just make sure you train with it and know it in and out

I’ll be slocking zombies with 5.56. The sidearm will be there just in case I get caught with the bolt back. It happens to the best of us.

[Horse86]

I’ll be slocking zombies with 5.56. The sidearm will be there just in case I get caught with the bolt back. It happens to the best of us.

don't get caught with your zipper down crew

[RThoe]

oh absolutely.....nods enters a whole new realm of training. They aren't anywhere close to my list yet.

As for the light I'll take a look at those. I do like Surefire. I have a streamlight laser combo on my g19 and love it. I'll check out the Rein

Funny you said chest plates....I had a company (i forget the name right now but I book marked it) pop up my feed last night and I was looking at their setups and battle belts. Any quality brand you recommend? Also I saw the different tiers of ballistic proof and would pay the extra for lighter/higher tier...but some of them only had like 1 year shelf life?? Only one with a decent shelf life was steel at 5 yr.

for now I can hold off on the plate insert and just outfit the rig to store my essentials.

If you're looking for plates, never buy steel. You will die. Hesco pretty much makes the best plates you can buy.

Chest rigs and plate carriers are two pretty different approaches, so depends what you're interested in. Some people like to run slick plate carriers (slick as in nothing attached to it) and then wear a chest rig over it, sort of like a hybrid between the two.

I personally only run a chest rig. Based on my location and game plan, I value maneuverability over protection. If I had a group of dudes that I trained regularly with I'd get a plate carrier. I don't really like the idea of a slick PC and chest rig, I'd rather have two dedicated platforms. I don't have a helmet but I consider that tied to a plate carrier. If I'm rocking plates, I'm definitely rocking a ballistic helmet.

There are a lot of really good companies out there and most will probably serve you well. I'm personally a big fan of Spiritus Systems and my entire chest rig set up is SS. They make plate carriers as well. They're most known for their modularity and that really allows the user to dial in their kit to them. You purchase every component separately to get what you want. SS was founded by 10th Mountain infantry dudes after they started customizing kit for themselves in Afghanistan and really blew up from there. Ferro Concepts is another good company.

Here's my chest rig, all SS components except the three front magazine inserts which are Esstac kywis.

[iabs]

I don’t see why not

Whatever you use just make sure you train with it and know it in and out

Aren't they known for being finicky and having to be cleaned constantly to avoid malfunctions?

[Victarion]

I have 2 Wilsons, 2 Nighthawks, an Atlas Athena and a Staccato XC and I'd trust any one of them, but if Poots launched the nukes and I could only take one I'd take the XC

[WrinklyGrandma]

oh absolutely.....nods enters a whole new realm of training. They aren't anywhere close to my list yet.

As for the light I'll take a look at those. I do like Surefire. I have a streamlight laser combo on my g19 and love it. I'll check out the Rein

Funny you said chest plates....I had a company (i forget the name right now but I book marked it) pop up my feed last night and I was looking at their setups and battle belts. Any quality brand you recommend? Also I saw the different tiers of ballistic proof and would pay the extra for lighter/higher tier...but some of them only had like 1 year shelf life?? Only one with a decent shelf life was steel at 5 yr.

for now I can hold off on the plate insert and just outfit the rig to store my essentials.

Shotstop GT2 are III+ and has a 15 year shelf life.
Defense Mech, Ferro slickster, Velocity... a lot of good plate carrier makers out there

[Horse86]

Shotstop GT2 are III+ and has a 15 year shelf life.
Defense Mech, Ferro slickster, Velocity... a lot of good plate carrier makers out there

on spread

[WrinklyGrandma]

on spread

remember to size your plate to your tiddies and your PC to your plate.

[Horse86]

remember to size your plate to your tiddies and your PC to your penor.

fixed



was mirin hard your setup/pic you posted a few pages back

[pr0digy11]

Aren't they known for being finicky and having to be cleaned constantly to avoid malfunctions?

I think the staccato is rather durable but not so much as a polymer striker fired just due to tolerances

[Farley1324]

That's exactly what we're talking about here. A firearm that you can leave loaded and ready to go. A firearm that is going to be reliable with no extra steps involved in case something goes wrong on the the initial round.

You just described nearly every striker fired or DAO semi auto on the market. Load it, put it in a holster, ready to go.

It is harder to get hits with in double action. But I'm sure you are aware that you can also operate the firearm in single action mode. And I'm also sure you're aware that most people don't get into "Miami Vice" style shootouts where they have to reload. Hell, the odds of actually having to use your firearm are astronomical. The odds are even higher that you'll have to reload. The main concern here statistically is NDs by casual firearm owners that don't train with their weapons on a constant ongoing basis.

Telling a gun noob, or anyone for that matter, to cock their revolver into single action for self defense is full retard.

Don't do that

I would love to see the stats that show an ND is more likely than a defensive gun use. By all means, make with the stat.

PS: If ND's are what you're worried about, suggesting cocking a revolver into single action is fukking retarded with a capital R

[EDcellent]

I'm going to duel wield .44 magnums and only shoot single action for home defense. Farleycels BTFO

[Farley1324]

I thought he was calling me the troller. I guess if you ain't on the Glock hype train you're considered a troll LMFAO. To be honest, I wouldn't trust the average sloot to handle a Glock correctly

If you suggest a woman who doesn't know anything about guns should get a 1911 or a revolver to cock into single action, you shouldn't be offering advice or answering questions

[Farley1324]

NODs/IR should be one of the absolute last things you get for your AR. You should sink thousands into legit training courses before buying that ****. Even after getting NODs/IR, expect to sink a lot more money into NODs based courses.

I'm a Surefire fanboi, but I've been digging my Cloud Rein 2.0s a lot so far. If I was going to get a new light I'd try the brand new Rein 3.0 they just dropped.

If you don't already have this, then after the light I'd get a chest rig or plate carrier set up. After that you could look at a battle belt. Most people seem to get the belts first but for a rifle based kit belts are not at all necessary.

Most important here is to get proper training.

Yes. Very much so

[criminal_manne]

If you suggest a woman who doesn't know anything about guns should get a 1911 or a revolver to cock into single action, you shouldn't be offering advice or answering questions

A 1911 is single action only and has a manual safety AND a grip safety. Locked and cocked is a very simple concept that even an inferior being such as a woman could comprehend.

[badger6]

You just described nearly every striker fired or DAO semi auto on the market. Load it, put it in a holster, ready to go.

Telling a gun noob, or anyone for that matter, to cock their revolver into single action for self defense is full retard.

Don't do that

I would love to see the stats that show an ND is more likely than a defensive gun use. By all means, make with the stat.

For a casual gun owner male or female, a revolver is sometimes the best choice because of its simplistic manual of arms, inherently safe design and not having to worry about having "one in the chamber". It is pretty much impossible to forget how a revolver works even after years of neglect. It is pretty much impossible to have an ND because "you thought it was unloaded" or to think you had it loaded only to find it won't go bang when you need it because you forgot to chamber a round. I know several people that find revolvers less stressful than automatics.

Also in my experience, casual gun owner is not likely to buy a large quantity of their SD ammo to run through the gun for reliability testing. This is not an issue for a wheelgun. A revolver can handle any bullet shape, and for the physically weak, you don't have to worry about lighter loads failing to cycle the action/limp wristing. You also don't have to worry about dexterity of racking the slide.

PS: If ND's are what you're worried about, suggesting cocking a revolver into single action is fukking retarded with a capital R

If you suggest a woman who doesn't know anything about guns should get a 1911 or a revolver to cock into single action, you shouldn't be offering advice or answering questions

I never said anything about a 1911, that in itself tells me everything I need to know about your reading comprehension. Which also tells me about your firearm comprehension. Furthermore, I don't understand your comment on cocking a revolver. You know that that's how they were designed right?

[Farley1324]

For a casual gun owner male or female, a revolver is sometimes the best choice because of its simplistic manual of arms, inherently safe design and not having to worry about having "one in the chamber". It is pretty much impossible to forget how a revolver works even after years of neglect. It is pretty much impossible to have an ND because "you thought it was unloaded" or to think you had it loaded only to find it won't go bang when you need it because you forgot to chamber a round. I know several people that find revolvers less stressful than automatics.

Also in my experience, casual gun owner is not likely to buy a large quantity of their SD ammo to run through the gun for reliability testing. This is not an issue for a wheelgun. A revolver can handle any bullet shape, and for the physically weak, you don't have to worry about lighter loads failing to cycle the action/limp wristing. You also don't have to worry about dexterity of racking the slide.





I never said anything about a 1911, that in itself tells me everything I need to know about your reading comprehension. Which also tells me about your firearm comprehension. Furthermore, I don't understand your comment on cocking a revolver. You know that that's how they were designed right?

I think you're the only one who didn't put together that I was referring to the guy who recommended a 1911 when I was referring to recommending a 1911.

Some of those things are true of a revolver, but saying you get over the long heavy physically difficult trigger pull by having the untrained female noob who can't remember how to work a gun cock it into single action for self tells me everything I need to know.

[4ea]

I mean, just the sheer sight of something like this is enough to make bad guys flee in terror.

big, scary .45 manstopper crew

I thought he was calling me the troller. I guess if you ain't on the Glock hype train you're considered a troll LMFAO. To be honest, I wouldn't trust the average sloot to handle a Glock correctly

i had a girlfriend back in the day that liked guns but didnt know much about them. she really liked my glock 20 though. one time when i was in the shower she picked it up and cycled the action multiple times, chambering and ejecting live rounds. didnt even occur to her that she had chambered live rounds.

but on the subject of revolver vs semi auto, i would not recommend a revolver over a semi auto for self defense for the reason that revolvers have a very heavy trigger pull, limited magazine capacity and are very slow to reload. gas escaping between the cylinder and the barrel can also cause injury. a reliable semi auto 9mm is always going to be more tactically capable than a revolver. you cant go wrong with a glock 19 or 17, but there are lots of other options that are just as good. keep it full mag, round in the chamber and in a holster at all times. make sure the girl isnt a dumb bimbo like my ex also...

[RgrJNC]

That dudes gf/wife needs a G34 for home defense. It’s the GOAT HD pistol

[Bo_Flecks]

but on the subject of revolver vs semi auto, i would not recommend a revolver over a semi auto for self defense for the reason that revolvers have a very heavy trigger pull, limited magazine capacity and are very slow to reload. gas escaping between the cylinder and the barrel can also cause injury. a reliable semi auto 9mm is always going to be more tactically capable than a revolver. you cant go wrong with a glock 19 or 17, but there are lots of other options that are just as good. keep it full mag, round in the chamber and in a holster at all times. make sure the girl isnt a dumb bimbo like my ex also...

Story time.

Last summer, I spent about a week at my mom and dad’s doing some work on their condo. One evening I sat down in a recliner and was looking for the TV remote. I reached into the side pocket and grabbed ahold of a Smith and Wesson J-frame. I looked over at my dad, and he said, “That’s your mom’s.”

[Horse86]

Story time.

Last summer, I spent about a week at my mom and dad’s doing some work on their condo. One evening I sat down in a recliner and was looking for the TV remote. I reached into the side pocket and grabbed ahold of a Smith and Wesson J-frame. I looked over at my dad, and he said, “That’s your mom’s.”

lol'd

side holster on a recliner.....she's playing every cheat code. #gamegenie

[28maynard]

Story time.

Last summer, I spent about a week at my mom and dad’s doing some work on their condo. One evening I sat down in a recliner and was looking for the TV remote. I reached into the side pocket and grabbed ahold of a Smith and Wesson J-frame. I looked over at my dad, and he said, “That’s your mom’s.”

Lmao

[pUniCepts]

Story time.

Last summer, I spent about a week at my mom and dad’s doing some work on their condo. One evening I sat down in a recliner and was looking for the TV remote. I reached into the side pocket and grabbed ahold of a Smith and Wesson J-frame. I looked over at my dad, and he said, “That’s your mom’s.”

strong troll. women not strong enough to pull revolver trigger.

[Bo_Flecks]

strong troll. women not strong enough to pull revolver trigger.

Last fall, my old boney fingered mom (she was 81 at the time) went handgun shooting with Dad and me. Her little .38 spl J-frame Smith doesn’t have a hammer, and while she put all of her shots on the paper at 5 yards, the bulk of her shots were low and left. That told me she was really jerking that trigger.

[rectifryer]

strong troll. women not strong enough to pull revolver trigger.

they can fit two in that holster though

[Horse86]

they can fit two in that holster though

Maybe two of yours

[4ea]

Story time.

Last summer, I spent about a week at my mom and dad’s doing some work on their condo. One evening I sat down in a recliner and was looking for the TV remote. I reached into the side pocket and grabbed ahold of a Smith and Wesson J-frame. I looked over at my dad, and he said, “That’s your mom’s.”

nothing wrong with keeping firearms within close reach at all times.

[rectifryer]

Maybe two of yours

nah brah I only carry 45 A C P

[EDcellent]

Good morning Gentleman.

Checked out Gillette yesterday to do an interview for a drivetrain position within my company to transfer to. Hopefully I'll hear back soon. Gillette has 3 outdoor ranges and a good amount of stores to shop at for firearms. It would be nice to start doing some outdoor shooting for long range. I still need to try out that .22LR conversion in my AR too.