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    If I'm not supposed to listen to Joe Rogan about covid because he isn't a doctor then why the **** should I listen to gates? Libs and their consistency lmao
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    So no one has talked about it

    For the next pandemic is it better to have the current jabs or no?
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    Originally Posted by vickissick07 View Post
    If I'm not supposed to listen to Joe Rogan about covid because he isn't a doctor then why the **** should I listen to gates? Libs and their consistency lmao
    That's not the reason not to listen to Rogain. Don't listen to him because he's a pot head.

    Originally Posted by conics View Post
    So no one has talked about it

    For the next pandemic is it better to have the current jabs or no?
    Is this a serious question?

    Of course no. By the time of the next pandemic, we'll be on to 6G or 7G and need those shots. the 5G shots will be old tech then.
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    Originally Posted by conics View Post
    So no one has talked about it

    For the next pandemic is it better to have the current jabs or no?
    They'll have brand new vaccines for the brand new pandemic, but gotta take the covid vax x2 plus 1-2 boosters. They'll have it all outlined for everyone on the CDC website, don't worry.
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    Originally Posted by |ceman View Post
    That's not the reason not to listen to Rogain. Don't listen to him because he's a pot head.
    Nice ad hominem. So you don't have any real reason to believe Gates over Rogan other than Gates tells you what you want to hear.
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    Nice ad hominem. So you don't have any real reason to believe Gates over Rogan other than Gates tells you what you want to hear.
    Is this a serious question? Rogaine is a pop star pot head who made his money by being a reality TV star personality and his claim to fame is entertaining crackpots and kooks and asking "what if" kind of questions where he gives credence to any conspiracy nut by just saying "who knows, it might be true"

    Gates is in contrast leaps and bounds more intelligent than Rogaine and before asking goofy "what if" questions he invests in copious research to become well read on the subject. Also, given his recognition and foundation work, he has access to the top experts in any field he chooses to apply his interest into. Whether it's tropical disease, sanitary toileting, battery storage, or global pandemics - he does his homework fully before making any statements on the subject.

    The very fact that you would consider Rogaine as an equal to Gates in terms of preparedness on a topic (other than maybe MMA or eating bugs on TV) shows how misinformed you are.
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    Originally Posted by |ceman View Post
    Is this a serious question? Rogaine is a pop star pot head who made his money by being a reality TV star personality and his claim to fame is entertaining crackpots and kooks and asking "what if" kind of questions where he gives credence to any conspiracy nut by just saying "who knows, it might be true"

    Gates is in contrast leaps and bounds more intelligent than Rogaine and before asking goofy "what if" questions he invests in copious research to become well read on the subject. Also, given his recognition and foundation work, he has access to the top experts in any field he chooses to apply his interest into. Whether it's tropical disease, sanitary toileting, battery storage, or global pandemics - he does his homework fully before making any statements on the subject.

    The very fact that you would consider Rogaine as an equal to Gates in terms of preparedness on a topic (other than maybe MMA or eating bugs on TV) shows how misinformed you are.
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    Originally Posted by |ceman View Post
    I agree but up to a point. The only way you get a politician's ear for anything meaningful to happen is to line their pockets with special interest money and campaign donations. Let's not pretend that the 99% of politicians are corrupt and self serving. The only real change that has happened in this world has come from the public leading the charge. Politicians just protect the status quo - very very very few are in politics because they want to make the world a better place.
    Agreed.

    Now for the bolded.. speaking from the USA perspective. Yes, the public has driven change. Massive amounts of change. It's one of the things I have felt America has done so well up until recent history. Which brings me to a thought that's been kicking around my head for a while. I do not believe (for example) the Civil Rights Movement would be, or could be, effective in 2022. The power of citizens today appears to be less than the power wielded 60 years ago. Some of the loss likely comes from the widening partisan division. Congress seems to primarily, possibly only, concerned with petty grudges and identity politics. When our representatives vote and act due to personal bias we clearly see high levels of dysfunction. Nothing gets done. Much more could be accomplished when policy - along with values etc - was the focus.
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    Because he's trying to get governments and policymakers to get their heads out of their asses and invest a fraction in medical preparedness that they do in war spending.

    He warned years ago that we were basically overdue for a major pandemic and outlined things that could be done to better prepare and nobody listened - "why should we listen to a software guy about medical topics? Go back to making Windows a horrible operating system." Etc.
    Stop all travel. Everybody needs to be self sufficient. That is the only to prevent potential pandemics. Do you know what the word pandemic means?

    There is a flu pandemic every year. Every year.

    The last serious flu pandemic was 2008. Is 13 years overdue? It’s a weasel word.
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    Originally Posted by |ceman View Post
    Predicting there will be another pandemic when history is full of examples of past pandemics doesn't make someone evil, it's really just common sense. Especially when you realize the pitiful underinvestment in medical research, the continued unsanitary conditions in many parts of the world where zoonotic viruses and bacteria can flourish and leap to humans, and most recently the inane politicization of basic medical common sense.

    He's basically just saying "you reap what you sow"
    -"underinvestment in medical research"
    -effective vaccine in less than a year for a new disease

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    -"underinvestment in medical research"
    -effective vaccine in less than a year for a new disease

    Which of these do you believe is true?
    I wonder if he knows that Polio vaccine research started in the 1930s.

    Chickenpox vaccine was started in the 1970s. 1995 was the first year it was available.
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    Oh man, not another Bill Gates conspiracy theory! Scientists were warning us for years there was going to be another pandemic. It was a veritable certainty. It happened the exact way scientists said it would, from zoonotic transmission from a wild animal. The idea of pandemics from bats or another animal is not some novelty to virologists or epidemiologists. They entirely expected it.


    This was a major reason why I argued so adamantly against the utterly deranged theory that the Chinese government deliberately released the virus and committed global mass homicide just to mess with a conspiratorial conman reality TV star. And the far less deranged, but still mistaken, theory that this was an accidental lab leak.



    We need to understand the origins of COVID so we can be better prepared for the next pandemic. Whilst conspiracy theories give one an easy scapegoat, and help you deal psychologically with the chaos of the world, the reality is a far more complex beast. How do we prevent the next pandemic? We:

    ~ Beseech governments to put economic pressure to cease the operation of the filthy wet markets and outlaw the consumption of strange creatures like bats.

    ~ Work on habitat and environmental protection to prevent erosion of animal habitats, which increases human-wild animal interaction, which consequently increases probability of pandemics.

    ~ Diligently monitor pandemic potential viruses in the wild.

    ~ Increase funding for vaccinology and the infrastructure of vaccine distribution to prevent a disastrously slow vaccine rollout.



    This is the scientifically robust and realistic means of preventing the next pandemic. Not sitting on the internet blaming Bill Gates while you fart into your parents couch cushions.
    Back off, Warchild.

    Seriously.
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    Oh man, not another Bill Gates conspiracy theory! Scientists were warning us for years there was going to be another pandemic. It was a veritable certainty. It happened the exact way scientists said it would, from zoonotic transmission from a wild animal. The idea of pandemics from bats or another animal is not some novelty to virologists or epidemiologists. They entirely expected it.


    This was a major reason why I argued so adamantly against the utterly deranged theory that the Chinese government deliberately released the virus and committed global mass homicide just to mess with a conspiratorial conman reality TV star.

    We need to understand the origins of COVID so we can be better prepared for the next pandemic. Whilst conspiracy theories give one an easy scapegoat, and help you deal psychologically with the chaos of the world, the reality is a far more complex beast. How do we prevent the next pandemic? We:

    ~ Beseech governments to put economic pressure on the operation of the filthy wet markets and outlaw the consumption of strange creatures like bats.

    ~ Work on habitat and environmental protection to prevent erosion of animal habitats, which increases human-wild animal interaction, which consequently increases probability of pandemics.

    ~ Diligently monitor pandemic potential viruses in the wild.

    ~ Increase funding for vaccinology and the infrastructure of vaccine distribution to prevent a disastrously slow vaccine rollout.



    This is the scientifically robust and realistic means of preventing the next pandemic. Not sitting on the internet blaming Bill Gates while you fart into your parents couch cushions.
    Yes, a training simulation on a SARS Coronavirus & how to handle the public & media with masks and silencing & jabs is totally normal months before the actual Plandemic is rolled out. Just lol.
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    Originally Posted by Paul Kreul View Post
    Yes, a training simulation on a SARS Coronavirus & how to handle the public & media with masks and silencing & jabs is totally normal months before the actual Plandemic is rolled out. Just lol.
    Tell me Bodhy, how old were you when your parents told you that your birth certificate was an apology letter from the condom manufacturer?

    Be honest

    Got you on recharge for the butthurt neg because your Bill Gates conspiracy theories collided with reality.
    Back off, Warchild.

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    Oh man, not another Bill Gates conspiracy theory! Scientists were warning us for years there was going to be another pandemic. It was a veritable certainty. It happened the exact way scientists said it would, from zoonotic transmission from a wild animal. The idea of pandemics from bats or another animal is not some novelty to virologists or epidemiologists. They entirely expected it.


    This was a major reason why I argued so adamantly against the utterly deranged theory that the Chinese government deliberately released the virus and committed global mass homicide just to mess with a conspiratorial conman reality TV star. And the far less deranged, but still mistaken, theory that this was an accidental lab leak.



    We need to understand the origins of COVID so we can be better prepared for the next pandemic. Whilst conspiracy theories give one an easy scapegoat, and help you deal psychologically with the chaos of the world, the reality is a far more complex beast. How do we prevent the next pandemic? We:

    ~ Beseech governments to put economic pressure to cease the operation of the filthy wet markets and outlaw the consumption of strange creatures like bats.

    ~ Work on habitat and environmental protection to prevent erosion of animal habitats, which increases human-wild animal interaction, which consequently increases probability of pandemics.

    ~ Diligently monitor pandemic potential viruses in the wild.

    ~ Increase funding for vaccinology and the infrastructure of vaccine distribution to prevent a disastrously slow vaccine rollout.



    This is the scientifically robust and realistic means of preventing the next pandemic. Not sitting on the internet blaming Bill Gates while you fart into your parents couch cushions.
    When was the last time a pandemic happened from zoonotic transfer before this one?
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    Originally Posted by Bodhy View Post
    Got you on recharge for the butthurt neg because your Bill Gates conspiracy theories collided with reality.
    Lol, could care less what you think of Bill Gates..what is pathetic about you is that the only solution to a flu that has a 99.997% survival rate is the one that makes the pharmaceutical companies the most money, you are so fuking transparent
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    Originally Posted by TugOfPeace View Post
    I think we're guaranteed something with a much higher mortality rate, then there won't be anyone who refuses to take the vaccine. That's what he wants, at least. 100% compliance, and unfortunately I think he will get it. We're all fuked.
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    Originally Posted by |ceman View Post
    Because he's trying to get governments and policymakers to get their heads out of their asses and invest a fraction in medical preparedness that they do in war spending.

    He warned years ago that we were basically overdue for a major pandemic and outlined things that could be done to better prepare and nobody listened - "why should we listen to a software guy about medical topics? Go back to making Windows a horrible operating system." Etc.
    Whats he advocating the free world do in regards to china when the next pandemic leaves there and travels the world??

    Sounds like he knew one was coming years before covid, was he urging the US govt/lobbying congress, to bring back all our medical/drug manufacturing??
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    Originally Posted by LinuxJon View Post
    -"underinvestment in medical research"
    -effective vaccine in less than a year for a new disease

    Which of these do you believe is true?
    Compare US military investment vs medical investment.

    Then compare how many Americans died from wars vs pandemics in the last 10 years
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    Originally Posted by |ceman View Post
    Compare US military investment vs medical investment.

    Then compare how many Americans died from wars vs pandemics in the last 10 years
    Oh you mean the one's that died where the average Covid death were those with a minimum of 4comorbidities..and most were going to die anyways? Urine idiot
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    Bill Gates urges 'Aussie response' to pandemics

    Australia's response to the Covid-19 pandemic has been labelled "gold standard" by Bill Gates, the co-founder of Microsoft.

    "If every country does what Australia did, then you wouldn't be calling (the next outbreak) a pandemic," Mr Gates said.

    https://www.odt.co.nz/news/australia...onse-pandemics
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    Originally Posted by NuggzTheNinja View Post
    Maybe...I also think the vaccine has red pilled a bunch of people. It barely works, it's at best a temporary therapeutic, and it has a horrible side effect profile. A lot of people got it initially because they bought the "safe and effective" (tm). It's neither. I would expect a lot of people to opt out the next time around simply based on their observations on this one. A lot of people who got the jab aren't planning to get a booster.
    I never got vaxxed. I THINK I got Omicron during Christmas. I have no idea though. It felt like a flu, The whole thing was gone in a handful of days.


    So I never got vaxxed and I'm glad I didn't. HAving said that, if they ever allow the traditional irradiated whole virus vaccine, I would not be opposed to taking that one.
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    Originally Posted by greenleaf View Post
    Bill Gates urges 'Aussie response' to pandemics

    Australia's response to the Covid-19 pandemic has been labelled "gold standard" by Bill Gates, the co-founder of Microsoft.

    "If every country does what Australia did, then you wouldn't be calling (the next outbreak) a pandemic," Mr Gates said.

    https://www.odt.co.nz/news/australia...onse-pandemics



    So fascism and absolute dictatorial tyranny. Gotcha, "bill".



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