Previous Covid infection offers LITTLE IMMUNITY, CONSERVATIVE LIARS REKT

[Hypernation]

Which is why once you get the flu you never get it again in your life... is there anyone left on this forum that isn't an absolute fuking retard?

Which is why, yet again, you show how much of an ignoramus you are.

Influenza is in the viral family orthomyxoviridae. COVID-19 is in the coronaviridae family. There are huge ramifications regarding mechanism of infection and immune response.

Stay in your lane you little biiiiiiiiitch

Or better yet: keep talking out of your ass so we can keep laughing at you.

[Stizzel]

And you think Trump won the 2020 election so maybe you shouldn't be casting stones?...

Yeah i form conclusions based on evidence. The only reason you're not also a flat earther is because rachael maddow hasnt scrpted you for it. Yet.

[dabbmw2002]

Also from article

TOO EARLY?

But Dr Clive Dix, former Chair of the UK Vaccine Taskforce, said it was important not to overinterpret the data.

The conclusions made are based on making assumptions about Omicron where we still don't have sufficient data," Dr Dix said. "For example, we have no data on the cellular immune response which is now probably driving effectiveness of vaccines."

"This is a crucial missing assumption in the modelling."

Some of the conclusions are different to the data emerging from South Africa, where vaccines are holding up well against severe disease and death at present, he said.

"There is a huge amount of uncertainty in these modelled estimates and we can only be confident about the impact of boosters against Omicron when we have another month of real-world data on hospitalisation ICU numbers and deaths," he said.

[chaunce54]

Also from article

You know what happens when you assume.



You end up with four jabs and six lock downs and no end in sight...

[NYPat]

Yeah i form conclusions based on evidence.

Lolololllolololol

[chaunce54]

Lolololllolololol

We know that's a completely foreign concept to you.

[Hypernation]

Where’d you run off to, Patricia?

Where’s your retort?
It’s difficult to debate fact with emotion isn’t it?

Let this be a teaching moment for you. This is what a useful education provides. The power to put peasants like yourself in their place.

Bitch.

[KINGFABIAN]

Yeah i form conclusions based on evidence.

LoL, you must consider your delusions evidence.

[sooby]

From my other thread, they can't keep their lies straight.



So because of this now the US press is trying to say that we may not be the same

https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsan...se-for-the-u-s

So South Africa's numbers were good because they had more natural immunity, but isn't that what the vaccine is supposed to do? Give you better immunity than natural immunity? That is what the CDC director said.

Lmao, What complete frauds.

this lol.

if anything, according to their logic, South Africa's numbers shouldn't be good because they are something like 25% vaccinated. If South Africa was getting absolutely destroyed, you and I know they would say it's because they are unvaccinated and there would be zero mention of natural immunity anywhere. They are just making chit up at this point. And even so, America should have a large degree of natural immunity from the number of infections they have, plus with more than half of their population being vaccinated with a whole bunch of people being booster'd up.

but now apparently previous covid infection and natural immunity doesn't work.

fukn lol.

[NYPat]

LoL, you must consider your delusions evidence.

i FoRm cOnClUsIoNs BasEd oN eViDenCe!!!

[NYPat]

this lol.

if anything, according to their logic, South Africa's numbers shouldn't be good because they are something like 25% vaccinated. If South Africa was getting absolutely destroyed, you and I know they would say it's because they are unvaccinated and there would be zero mention of natural immunity anywhere. They are just making chit up at this point. And even so, America should have a large degree of natural immunity from the number of infections they have, plus with more than half of their population being vaccinated with a whole bunch of people being booster'd up.

but now apparently previous covid infection and natural immunity doesn't work.

fukn lol.

OR.... it could just be that Omicron is mild and their previous infections aren't doing a whole lot AND vaccinations offer more protection like the OP's article shows.

[aci150]

Vaccines offer little immunity, moronic leftists rekt

[ghostfacedup]

good goy

[katya422]

Anti-vaxxers, especially the idiots on this forum, are extremely LOW IQ. There's a reason more Republicans are dying from Covid than Democrats.

Yeah, probably because Republicans are more likely to be old and/or live in a rural area with less access to healthcare.

From my other thread, they can't keep their lies straight.



So because of this now the US press is trying to say that we may not be the same

https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsan...se-for-the-u-s

So South Africa's numbers were good because they had more natural immunity, but isn't that what the vaccine is supposed to do? Give you better immunity than natural immunity? That is what the CDC director said.

Lmao, What complete frauds.

South Africa may be doing better than the US because they have a lower rate of vaccination. It could be a lot worse here so you better go get another shot.

I don't know if this beats "jabs + infection = super immunity!", but it's up there.

Okay? So? Omnicron is pretty much like a mild cold, why are you freaking out? Healthy individuals who got the Rona said it was like the flu, except for the loss of taste/smell.

Now if you're obese, with pre-existing conditions you should possibly be worried, because the chances of it being worse are much higher.

So why aren't the experts telling us to lose weight, get healthy, start exercising?

Right, one of the main noted differences for Omicron was that it does NOT cause loss of taste and smell the way that prior variants did.

[Dave22reborn]

OR.... it could just be that Omicron is mild and their previous infections aren't doing a whole lot AND vaccinations offer more protection like the OP's article shows.

So Omnicron is mild now? Someone should tell the all-knowing Fauci this bit of information.......

[wickedman]

Literally gear the narrative to be worst case in all scenarios.

[Dave22reborn]

Literally gear the narrative to be worst case in all scenarios.

That's the picture that Fauci is painting, that this new variant is going to cause deaths/hospitalizationsto skyrocket

[dabbmw2002]

So Omnicron is mild now? Someone should tell the all-knowing Fauci this bit of information.......

The science is fluid, meaning it changes at a moment's notice based off the establishments current narrative.

[Johnez]

From my other thread, they can't keep their lies straight.



So because of this now the US press is trying to say that we may not be the same

https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsan...se-for-the-u-s

So South Africa's numbers were good because they had more natural immunity, but isn't that what the vaccine is supposed to do? Give you better immunity than natural immunity? That is what the CDC director said.

Lmao, What complete frauds.

Lefties take note. I'm relatively sure dab has got the vax (correct me if I'm wrong), and he's been relatively even keel with regards to the pandemic. This is 70% of America right here, and getting tired of lies, the misleading, and obfuscation of data to serve a predetermined agenda. America is going to slowly wake up from this crap, the hubris will eventually swing back and bite everyone on the wrong side of this hard. Biden's mandates and "stark warning" is being met with more and more skepticism, even in real life from vaxcels I know.

[Sal29]

Vaccines offer little immunity, moronic leftists rekt

The Booster offers WAY better immunity than "Natural Immunity" from a Previous Covid Infection, Conservatives get REKT again.

The protection afforded by past infection against reinfection with Omicron may be as low as 19%, Imperial College (ICL) said in a statement

this translates into vaccine effectiveness of between 0% and 20% after two doses, and between 55% and 80% after a booster dose.

[dabbmw2002]

Lefties take note. I'm relatively sure dab has got the vax (correct me if I'm wrong), and he's been relatively even keel with regards to the pandemic. This is 70% of America right here, and getting tired of lies, the misleading, and obfuscation of data to serve a predetermined agenda. America is going to slowly wake up from this crap, the hubris will eventually swing back and bite everyone on the wrong side of this hard. Biden's mandates and "stark warning" is being met with more and more skepticism, even in real life from vaxcels I know.

Pureblood. But to each his own. Im not a fascist afterall.

[Johnez]

Pureblood. But to each his own. Im not a fascist afterall.

My bad brotha. Same attitude here.

[Dave22reborn]

The Booster offers WAY better immunity than "Natural Immunity" from a Previous Covid Infection, Conservatives get REKT again.

The protection afforded by past infection against reinfection with Omicron may be as low as 19%, Imperial College (ICL) said in a statement

this translates into vaccine effectiveness of between 0% and 20% after two doses, and between 55% and 80% after a booster dose.

You're claiming that someone with a booster won't get the Rona?

[EagleOfWar]

It's funny how these guys keep posting studies based on "assumptions" and "implications of assumptions", but none of them can explain how:

A "vaccine" that makes your body produce a very specific part of the original strain somehow works better than having fought off an actual infection.

This. It’s mind numbing how low IQ they are. It’s not even that they’re liberals, it’s that they’re liberals BECAUSE they’re that dumb. I’m not even a republican, so it’s not that it’s political with me as much as it’s obvious how illogical these people have become. Women even more so, they’re the most naive animal on the planet. Mix that with propaganda, fear and lies and we have what’s labeled a liberal now.

Jfl at taking anything a liberal woman says srsly. The worst mistake this country ever made was letting these halfwits vote. There are some smart women out there but they’re never liberal, both can never be true.

[chaunce54]

Vaccines offer little immunity, moronic leftists rekt

[2011change]

Sal29 for President




















for the mentally ill of America

[jxd]

"may be as low as 19%"? So it's likely to be higher?

Oh and 2 dose vaccine offers 0 to 20% protection.

[Fishman15]

So why aren't the experts telling us to lose weight, get healthy, start exercising?

Well, because there is no fat shaming allowed during the plandemic, eating healthy is considered white privilege, and exercising is out because gyms are either closed on lockdown or open and considered super spreaders due to all the Trumpers in there without masks.

[Bodhy]

I argued this same point recently, and it's been a general theme in my arguments for vaccination. The "pureblood" position failed to account for significant sampling bias in the natural infection groups, as a previous post of mine demonstrates:




There may be some significant sampling bias in these studies too. One of the arguments for vaccination was the huge degree of volatility in the immune response which occurs with natural infection. That should be taken into account here.

Which means, in the Covid-positive cohort, they will be using PCR-tested positive individuals which is far from 100% of cases and this will introduce a bias towards the more symptomatic and severe cases. Whereas the vaccinated cohort will be near 100% of vaccinated people since it is all documented and kept in a central database. So, there is a discrepancy in the samples between the vaccinated and the unvaccinated.


The reason why this matters is because the degree of immune response is roughly proportionate to the severity of the infection, borne out by multiple studies: https://www-nature-com.ezproxy.newca...591-020-0965-6. An asymptomatic infection will generate a far less robust response than a severe infection, but vaccination produces an antibody titre on par with the worst of infections.


So there is comparison between the unvaccinated and infected which has a significant bias in it, and the vaccinated, who develop a constant and homogeneous antibody titre.


My takeaway is regardless, still get vaccinated. Deliberately avoiding vaccination and waiting for a natural infection is still a very bad idea.

[Johnez]

So if we word it the same way, it becomes "could be as low as 0% protection" when you're double jabbed.

I had thought those were typos, I mean they have to be right? Just fukkin lol if they aren't. No wonder the narrative seems a bit unhinged lately...