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    Originally Posted by davik View Post
    theres problems other than death which can be long term
    Like myocarditis (which is common in any viral illness).
    Comparing apples to oranges (myocarditis vs deaths from Covid). At least post relevant data and let people decide.



    Also, it sure why people still think this is some unknown phenomenon. Itโ€™s openly admitted it can cause it.

    https://www.dicardiology.com/article...vid-19-vaccine



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    Originally Posted by katya422 View Post
    I don't agree with this. Mainly because it is such a large number of people.

    There was an interesting video about changes in blood cells post-COVID that speculated that people feel better about 6 months out because their old blood cells have died off and been replaced with new healthy cells.

    And I think that it is interesting that more long covid cases are reported by women given the recent-ish news about how covid interacts with fat cells and that women in general have a higher percentage of body fat than men.
    Most people are very unhealthy and have a variety of low level afflictions every day which could be considered symptoms of one thing or another.

    Women are more likely to be gullible, attention seeking hypochondriacs.

    Covid hysteria is mass psychosis, 'long covid' is just a small part of that.
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    I still wonder about people who get myocarditis after a vaccination. Would they have got it, and maybe worse, after being naturally infected?

    Same with the blood clots
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    Originally Posted by katya422 View Post
    I don't agree with this. Mainly because it is such a large number of people.

    There was an interesting video about changes in blood cells post-COVID that speculated that people feel better about 6 months out because their old blood cells have died off and been replaced with new healthy cells.

    And I think that it is interesting that more long covid cases are reported by women given the recent-ish news about how covid interacts with fat cells and that women in general have a higher percentage of body fat than men.
    There was a french or swedish paper consisting of 27000 people showing you are more likely to have long covid if you think you had covid but don't have antibodies for it, than if you actually had covid. Think of that as you will.

    Cba looking it back up but it was posted by Robert Malone at some point I think.
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    Originally Posted by blindsideflank View Post
    Like myocarditis (which is common in any viral illness).
    Comparing apples to oranges (myocarditis vs deaths from Covid). At least post relevant data and let people decide.



    Also, it sure why people still think this is some unknown phenomenon. Itโ€™s openly admitted it can cause it.

    https://www.dicardiology.com/article...vid-19-vaccine



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    Originally Posted by blindsideflank View Post
    Like myocarditis (which is common in any viral illness).
    Comparing apples to oranges (myocarditis vs deaths from Covid). At least post relevant data and let people decide.



    Also, it sure why people still think this is some unknown phenomenon. Itโ€™s openly admitted it can cause it.

    https://www.dicardiology.com/article...vid-19-vaccine



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    #1: The chart is highly misleading and unhelpful. We don't actually know how common myocarditis really is after Covid-19. The chart is just showing covid-19 patients (presumably people who end up in the hospital). We know the vast majority of people who catch Covid-19 don't end up in a hospital. Also the risk varies by age, with people generally in the 16-29 age group with the highest risk. A simple chart that doesn't stratify by age group, comorbidities and even gender as well is unhelpful for individual risk/benefit analysis.

    #2: The media and doctors downplay myocarditis from vaccines continuously, and if this is the case, why the draconian measures implemented without any regard to an individual's health profile. A vaccine dosage schedule shouldn't carry a 1/1200 chance of myo/pericarditis if we are to call it safe and force it on people.
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    Originally Posted by x-trainer ben View Post
    i look at things other than just death, related to Covid as well.
    There is a wide spectrum when i asked people about their experiences, it is so varied that it is crazy.
    Treatment is also varied. People still get severe Covid with vaccines.
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    we paid off some politicians to make it so you can't sue us.
    The myocarditis numbers from Ontario would be grounds for a lawsuit under normal circumstances. This was an un-known side effect of the jabs due to a lack of testing. Aka, liability of Pfizer/moderna. But instead we just keep cruising along. Hasn't even been a year yet since the mass vaccination roll out.... Can't wait to see what other unforseen side effects rear their ugly heads long-term. God bless the pin cushions for participating in the trial thus far; the data has been helpful for the rest of us.

    Edit: also, a big tip of the cap to that Kiwi for taking10 jabs in a day. Should be fun to see how that plays out.
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    Covid increases your risk of myocarditis.

    Vaccines increase your risk.

    Looks like we are all getting heart attacks regardless of vax status Boys
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    Originally Posted by krs128 View Post
    Covid increases your risk of myocarditis.

    Vaccines increase your risk.

    Looks like we are all getting heart attacks regardless of vax status Boys
    Except that all-cause mortality for the 25-44 age group has increased in 2021 following mass jabbings.

    So statistically we would have been better off without the jabs (so far)
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    Originally Posted by HMFIC_BROWSIN View Post
    The myocarditis numbers from Ontario would be grounds for a lawsuit under normal circumstances. This was an un-known side effect of the jabs due to a lack of testing. Aka, liability of Pfizer/moderna. But instead we just keep cruising along. Hasn't even been a year yet since the mass vaccination roll out.... Can't wait to see what other unforseen side effects rear their ugly heads long-term. God bless the pin cushions for participating in the trial thus far; the data has been helpful for the rest of us.

    Edit: also, a big tip of the cap to that Kiwi for taking10 jabs in a day. Should be fun to see how that plays out.
    if it were any other vaccine, it probably would have been cancelled. as many have in the past. I'll concede, that for many people, the benefits do outweigh the risks so they probably take it and withholding the jab from them wouldn't be in their best interest. People have allowed themselves to become so obese and unhealthy that a virus like this will put many of them on death's door where as a person who eats reasonably ok, does some exercises and takes their vitamins it's probably nothing more than a flu, with some even feeling nothing.

    I share your thoughts, if this far in we are only starting to understand the risk of myocarditis from vaccine, what other chit are we going to find out? Studies getting to the root of it are going to be hard to do and is likely something we may not even fully understand until a few years down the road. inb4, "if you took the vaccine and suffer myocarditis, you may be entitled to compensation" 10 years down the line from some lawyer commercial.

    fkn lmao at kiwibrah taking 10 jabs. a real life test subject for perpetual boosters. god bless his heart. the fact that it seemed like media and health officials didn't think his health could be of concern is puzzling.
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    if it were any other vaccine, it probably would have been cancelled. as many have in the past. I'll concede, that for many people, the benefits do outweigh the risks so they probably take it and withholding the jab from them wouldn't be in their best interest. People have allowed themselves to become so obese and unhealthy that a virus like this will put many of them on death's door where as a person who eats reasonably ok, does some exercises and takes their vitamins it's probably nothing more than a flu, with some even feeling nothing.

    I share your thoughts, if this far in we are only starting to understand the risk of myocarditis from vaccine, what other chit are we going to find out? Studies getting to the root of it are going to be hard to do and is likely something we may not even fully understand until a few years down the road. inb4, "if you took the vaccine and suffer myocarditis, you may be entitled to compensation" 10 years down the line from some lawyer commercial.

    fkn lmao at kiwibrah taking 10 jabs. a real life test subject for perpetual boosters. god bless his heart. the fact that it seemed like media and health officials didn't think his health could be of concern is puzzling.
    Vaxcels will be taking far more than 10, granted it won't be in 1 day
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    Originally Posted by sooby View Post
    "if you took the vaccine and suffer myocarditis, you may be entitled to compensation" 10 years down the line from some lawyer commercial.
    I think the companies are exempt in this case with the MRNA jabs.

    Originally Posted by PenorBrahNoHomo View Post
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    Originally Posted by sooby View Post
    if it were any other vaccine, it probably would have been cancelled. as many have in the past. I'll concede, that for many people, the benefits do outweigh the risks so they probably take it and withholding the jab from them wouldn't be in their best interest. People have allowed themselves to become so obese and unhealthy that a virus like this will put many of them on death's door where as a person who eats reasonably ok, does some exercises and takes their vitamins it's probably nothing more than a flu, with some even feeling nothing.

    I share your thoughts, if this far in we are only starting to understand the risk of myocarditis from vaccine, what other chit are we going to find out? Studies getting to the root of it are going to be hard to do and is likely something we may not even fully understand until a few years down the road. inb4, "if you took the vaccine and suffer myocarditis, you may be entitled to compensation" 10 years down the line from some lawyer commercial.

    fkn lmao at kiwibrah taking 10 jabs. a real life test subject for perpetual boosters. god bless his heart. the fact that it seemed like media and health officials didn't think his health could be of concern is puzzling.
    You won't be able to sue them. They've been granted immunity by the government. One of the biggest reasons I'm not getting it.
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    Doesn't covid itself cause myocarditis? Like way more and way worse than the vaccine?
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    I had 1 dose in sept cuz I felt like I had to to travel somewhere that has the passports earlier

    but still havent gotten the 2nd dose

    I heard some doc say that its something that a medication fixes quickly and its a rare side if anything
    is dis true? or is it somethin that permanently fuqs your heart?
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    Don't worry as other vaxcels pointed out ITT COVID-19 now also causes myocarditis.

    It didn't before the jabs, but now the researchers """found""" that COVID-19 also causes heart attacks, blood clots, myocarditis etc.

    So if you die a day after vaccine from a heart attack, they'll just write you had COVID.

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    Originally Posted by FilsGoodMan View Post
    Don't worry as other vaxcels pointed out ITT COVID-19 now also causes myocarditis.

    It didn't before the jabs, but now the researchers """found""" that COVID-19 also causes heart attacks, blood clots, myocarditis etc.

    So if you die a day after vaccine from a heart attack, they'll just write you had COVID.

    Just fukin LOL
    Hahaha jfl.

    Funny I never heard the word myocarditis until after the jabs.
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    Doesn't covid itself cause myocarditis? Like way more and way worse than the vaccine?
    There's a better chance of your body fighting off the spike protein if you catch covid naturally. The MRNA clotshot is designed to bypass your immune system initially then instruct your body to build spike proteins wherever it can. Often these build up in the heart or reproductive organs.
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    You guys are losers, this guys already on shot 9

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    Heard an interesting thing on Joe Rogan about how the vaccine related issues could be caused by them being injected wrong by doing it straight into the bloodstream. Apparently when you inject someone youโ€™re supposed to pull the plunger out a bit first to check thereโ€™s no blood or something, and obviously none of them are doing that. So whilst itโ€™s safe enough itโ€™s not if youโ€™re whacking it direct into someoneโ€™s blood stream
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    Originally Posted by jamalfudge View Post
    There's a better chance of your body fighting off the spike protein if you catch covid naturally. The MRNA clotshot is designed to bypass your immune system initially then instruct your body to build spike proteins wherever it can. Often these build up in the heart or reproductive organs.
    Flu vaccine creates antibodies for the virus, without much risk, and your body can then fight it naturally if you get it. COVID vaccine mirrors the COVID virus by spiking protein, same as the virus itself. Your body isn't immune to the virus, it's simply recognizing the spike in protein and reacting. You still haven't built antibodies for it though. You have just conditioned your body to fight it faster by recognizing it. Then the body forgets, and you have to keep reminding it over and over forever. Your immune system never gets stronger from this. In fact, if I were to guess, I would say it weakens each and every time you get a booster without having gotten the virus.

    At least, that's my take. How does this translate to immunity? If you want your immune system to get stronger to fight future corona viruses, you need to get COVID or they need to create an inactive form of it. This is why people are getting sicker and sicker from corona viruses, AKA, the cold, because they are damaging their bodies over and over again in the name of fighting off the actual virus. Spiking this protein repeatedly is bound to be harmful, because, after all, that's how COVID kills you.
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    "There were 19,740,741 doses of mRNA vaccines administered and 297 reports of myocarditis/pericarditis meeting our inclusion criteria"

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