Republicans are dying from Covid 4x more than Democrats - NY Times

[Jestbrah]

K but how does that explain the gap widening since 2020 rather than staying the same. I'm not arguing either side btw just trying to understand the numbers.

Reputable news companies are not above straight up lying and completely manipulating data.

[Fitnessguy24]

Yeah so ? You've got old people dying that voted for trump and decided to not be vaxxed. Old people are usually more conservative. THAT makes more sense than the rest of it.

[Kraken]

I didn’t read anything about this claim, but keep something in mind. The largest demographic of liberals are the youth. Ages 16 to about 35 (it’s gone up as we live longer). This is historically accurate all the back to the 19th century, ranging around the world. As an individual grows passed those ages, they become more and more conservative and their ideals change. As these individuals become educated, get married, start having families and careers, they grow to want to keep those things safe and preserved.

So even if there was something to this, it’s important to see that republicans are likely an older demographic.

[Coal Man]

Yeah so ? You've got old people dying that voted for trump and decided to not be vaxxed. Old people are usually more conservative. THAT makes more sense than the rest of it.

I didn’t read anything about this claim, but keep something in mind. The largest demographic of liberals are the youth. Ages 16 to about 35 (it’s gone up as we live longer). This is historically accurate all the back to the 19th century, ranging around the world. As an individual grows passed those ages, they become more and more conservative and their ideals change. As these individuals become educated, get married, start having families and careers, they grow to want to keep those things safe and preserved.

So even if there was something to this, it’s important to see that republicans are likely an older demographic.

If either of you read what I said earlier, I already addressed this.

The number supposedly takes into account what the death rates were BEFORE AND after vaccines came out. It shows a widening of the gap after 2020. So yes, even if you account for an older demographic, it doesn't account for the gap increasing.


Unless there's some other factor I didn't think of.

[Kraken]

If either of you read what I said earlier, I already addressed this.

The number supposedly takes into account what the death rates were BEFORE AND after vaccines came out. It shows a widening of the gap after 2020. So yes, even if you account for an older demographic, it doesn't account for the gap increasing. Should we put Republicans into Covid camps?


Unless there's some other factor I didn't think of.

So what value does this hold in separating political groups other than furthering the divisive narrative and agenda? What scientific significance does this contain?

Edit; to what end does this narrative imply?

[StoliFun]

So what value does this hold in separating political groups other than furthering the divisive narrative and agenda? What scientific significance does this contain?

Edit; to what end does this narrative imply?

The article is just pointing out what is meant when Republicans are sarcastically referred to as a death cult.

Spoiler!

Protein spiking

[Shysty021]

So what value does this hold in separating political groups other than furthering the divisive narrative and agenda? What scientific significance does this contain?

Edit; to what end does this narrative imply?

What? People dieing more or less based upon political views is scientifically significant

[ParsleyTea]

The liberal media only celebrates dead conservative politicians. Imagine there is similar thinking with everyday conservatives coming from liberal media writers.

Rolling in my head, some of the greatest hit form the virus have been black and hispanic Americans.

[Weezy32]

Reputable news companies are not above straight up lying and completely manipulating data.

LMAO

NY Times
Reputable News Company

Pick 1

Maybe 20-30 years ago you could call it that but now ..... nahhh

[AncientYouth]

80% of of Muricans have the major co morbidity for COVID ....being a fat fck..........suprised so few have croaked

[meatlog]

Think about how covid deaths are measured to begin with, then you'll realise that these sorts of polls are complete bs

[StoliFun]

Think about how covid deaths are measured to begin with, then you'll realise that these sorts of polls are complete bs

It's actually much simpler than whatever cockamamie scheme you've come up with to explain this measurable pattern amongst covid deaths after vaccination has been widely available in the US.

https://www.brookings.edu/blog/fixgo...and-ethnicity/

According to a report from the Kaiser Family Foundation (KFF) released on Sept. 28, gaps in vaccination rates across racial and ethnic groups have virtually disappeared—while gaps reflecting political affiliation have widened substantially.

Of Americans surveyed from Sept. 13-22, 72% of adults 18 and older had been vaccinated, including 71% of white Americans, 70% of Black Americans, and 73% of Hispanics. Contrast these converging figures with disparities based on politics: 90% of Democrats had been vaccinated, compared with 68% of Independents and just 58% of Republicans.

It's a very sad and weird statistic. And considering vaccine efficacy against covid death remains up in the high 80s and low 90s, it shouldn't be surprising that so many more unvaccinated Trumpers are dying than unvaccinated Marxists.

Covfefe and Protein spiking.

[FilsGoodMan]

Stopped reading at "dying from COVID"

[turdburglar9021]

At least they died doing what they loved

[Devils]

according to the data? Yes.

that data that has been manipulated for the last 1 1/2 years? that data?

[AgRyan]

Because most conservatives are older, and most liberals are younger. Which is the at risk group for covid? Doesn't take a rocket scientist.

[StoliFun]

Because most conservatives are older, and most liberals are younger. Which is the at risk group for covid? Doesn't take a rocket scientist.

Do you think older people are 3:1 Republicans : Democrats?

[AgRyan]

Do you think older people are 3:1 Republicans : Democrats?

It's not just older people. When you're young, and overwhelmingly liberal and safe from covid, you're tilting the results of everyone else that's older when you average everything else out.

You should have paid more attention in stats in college.

[BigBallsMcgee]

Obviously because democrats have way higher vaxxed rates

[BigBallsMcgee]

Because most conservatives are older, and most liberals are younger. Which is the at risk group for covid? Doesn't take a rocket scientist.

It's because of the vaccination rate you buffoon

[MiniManletBrah]

Would rather die as a republican than live forever as a low test democrat lol.

Just lol @ living your life basing your whole personality around politicians who cuck you every single day

Absolute beta mentality

[yewotm8]

Declaring cause of death is an inherently political thing. Cause of death would at many hospitals be entirely determined by vaccination status, race etc. Of course this would never be admitted or show up in the statistics itself, etc.

[AgRyan]

It's because of the vaccination rate you buffoon

Yeah because the covid numbers are so trustworthy... fukin moron. People like you will be the end of freedom. Idiots that just go with the flow because the super trustworthy government, big Pharma companies, and MSM tell you what to think. It's literally not even a vaccine.

[StoliFun]

Yeah because the covid numbers are so trustworthy... fukin moron. People like you will be the end of freedom. Idiots that just go with the flow because the super trustworthy government, big Pharma companies, and MSM tell you what to think. It's literally not even a vaccine.

Thank you for your service!

[Soonerjohn]

So they shopped specific counties during a specific time frame and led you to a conclusion?

Here is the deal, if you have not had covid and have comorbidities, get the vax for your own personal protection. Your choice, so do or don't.

[SwagMorris]

Some conservative writers have tried to claim that the gap may stem from regional differences in weather or age, but those arguments fall apart under scrutiny. (If weather or age were a major reason, the pattern would have begun to appear last year.)

Wtf are they talking about? That’s literally the pattern from the beginning of time.

Just lol at believing anything the Holodomor denying New York Times prints.

[BigBallsMcgee]

Yeah because the covid numbers are so trustworthy... fukin moron. People like you will be the end of freedom. Idiots that just go with the flow because the super trustworthy government, big Pharma companies, and MSM tell you what to think. It's literally not even a vaccine.

I'm 10000% against vaccine mandates. But some of you are denying reality to justify your position and it makes you look worse

[Kraken]

I'm 10000% against vaccine mandates. But some of you are denying reality to justify your position and it makes you look worse

It’s helpful to understand that when the government, as well as the minority or other half, attempt to force their will onto others, they will become distrustful. This is also a reality often ignored. A well-informed public will often make good decisions. The same is true in sociology as well as economics.

Kolko, and later confirmed by RFK Jr, although through slightly different processes, that regulation artempts to reform and control society and capitalism are fruitless because all attempts will be hijacked by the very people whose behavior you are trying to reform/control. It’s important to know that this is confirmed by science, although there are groups of people who have ideologies that don’t believe people can be summed up with any science, but rather believe they can be controlled through coercion.

We must always remain diligent in maintaining liberty, which means unity without conformity. Attempts at conformity just leads to unintended results, As the Democrats are now demonstrating

[PepperedAngus]

lol.

Im sure we can trust these numbers.

And still, Ill take my chances, fuk off fearcells.

[GooBaaa]

Would rather die as a republican than live forever as a low test democrat lol.

Both sides are low test......