Misc Firearms Crew LXXXI: Tritium Vials and ATF Denials

[RgrJNC]

hnnnngggggggg

[bluebeltATT]

Just bought some .45 ACP ammo.

Winchester Target pack FMJ 230 grain 100 rounds for $50.38

Federal premium hydra shok 230 grain HP 20 rounds $24.29

This includes a 10% discount at my local range. Boyos check to see if local ranges or gun stores offer memberships. For $45 a month I get unlimited indoor range time, 10% off ammo and 5% off guns.

Gun range is Wyoming Gun Company in Casper, WY. Should any of you do road trips or are within a reasonable range, I highly recommend the stop. Good people, and a really nice range to shoot various firearms.

*End of shameless plug*

$45/month unlimited?

thats a good deal considering if someone wants to go every weekend.

$11.50/ per day and if you go more frequent even less

[fishnbrah]

**** I need to visit Safford on vacation some day.

like Gaethje said, there's only two places for work there, the prison and the MINES.

alpha

Yeah we were ram hunting right by the mines. Biggest haul trucks on earth there I think, move a whole mountain.

[EDcellent]

$45/month unlimited?

thats a good deal considering if someone wants to go every weekend.

$11.50/ per day and if you go more frequent even less

Yup. Normally a day pass is $20. So realistically if you if you only go twice a month and buy some rounds there, you get your money back.

[benz5521]

Just a reminder guys, a subsonic 300 blackout round is a 200-220g bullet moving just under the speed of sound. You know what that's almost identical to? A slow .45 ACP round out of a 1911. Except in a smaller caliber projectile. lol

And you do know that a subsonic 300blk has more energy at 100 yards than 45 ACP does at the muzzle. Right?

220g 300blk has like 500ft lbs of energy at the muzzle.

45ACP has 350 ft lbs.

The 300blk is still moving like 150 FPS + faster at the muzzle and the bullet design is far more ballistically efficient obviously.

[Farley1324]

And you do know that a subsonic 300blk has more energy at 100 yards than 45 ACP does at the muzzle. Right?

220g 300blk has like 500ft lbs of energy at the muzzle.

45ACP has 350 ft lbs.

The 300blk is still moving like 150 FPS + faster at the muzzle and the bullet design is far more ballistically efficient obviously.

And 5.56 has what 1,300?

Those are both weak

[LinuxJon]

And you do know that a subsonic 300blk has more energy at 100 yards than 45 ACP does at the muzzle. Right?

220g 300blk has like 500ft lbs of energy at the muzzle.

45ACP has 350 ft lbs.

The 300blk is still moving like 150 FPS + faster at the muzzle and the bullet design is far more ballistically efficient obviously.

Okay, so let's call it 500ft lbs of energy. That's basically what a .40 S&W has at the barrel with the 155g HST rounds I carry. It's also 700lbs less than basic M193 rounds.

I know everything has an application. But I always wonder if the subsonic .300 guys realize they are working with basically 60% less power than the traditional AR caliber.

[Bo_Flecks]

Okay, so let's call it 500ft lbs of energy. That's basically what a .40 S&W has at the barrel with the 155g HST rounds I carry. It's also 700lbs less than basic M193 rounds.

I know everything has an application. But I always wonder if the subsonic .300 guys realize they are working with basically 60% less power than the traditional AR caliber.

One deer season I carried a 5 inch 1911 with 185gr +P Golden Sabers zipping along at 1,100 fps, generating over 500 ft-lbs of instrumental energy. I figured if I could get a shot within 20 yards, I’d take it. Sadly that didn’t happen.

[OfficerJimLahey]

queef

[EDcellent]

queef

Frig off, Lahey!

[fishnbrah]

And you do know that a subsonic 300blk has more energy at 100 yards than 45 ACP does at the muzzle. Right?

220g 300blk has like 500ft lbs of energy at the muzzle.

45ACP has 350 ft lbs.

The 300blk is still moving like 150 FPS + faster at the muzzle and the bullet design is far more ballistically efficient obviously.

factory 190 gr hornady 300blk and 180gr .357 hornady are nearly identical at the muzzle

i dont see why anyone would want to hunt with subsonic ammo is the thing. unless theyre doing illegal things.


a guy can use an AR pistol here on the handgun hunts, which i think is BS personally. but theres some handgun cow elk tags i was thinking a 300blk would be pretty legit, with the proper ammo.

[pUniCepts]

factory 190 gr hornady 300blk and 180gr .357 hornady are nearly identical at the muzzle

i dont see why anyone would want to hunt with subsonic ammo is the thing. unless theyre doing illegal things.


a guy can use an AR pistol here on the handgun hunts, which i think is BS personally. but theres some handgun cow elk tags i was thinking a 300blk would be pretty legit, with the proper ammo.

The appeal to me is shooting with ears off (suppressed subs). I haven't taken the plunge yet, and hunting isn't my priority for that caliber, but I believe you can ethically hunt with 300 subs. I used to think bowhunting was unethical, but it's not the tool alone that determines ethicality.

[pUniCepts]

Aware……

He brought it over, it’s not bad. Felt about the quality of a first gen M&P. Finish was decent, felt a lot more ergonomic than a stock G19. Hinged trigger is absolute trash, though. It brings Glock clone, there are a million upgrades out there, but that kinda defeats the purpose.

Morning, MFC.

Don't intend to get one, but from what I've read it seems worth the money. And if you were going to do some upgrades anyway it does give you a lower starting point.

get a 300 blk! I have 2, and 2 suppressors in jail currently. I also make subsonic and supersonic rounds for both hunting and plinking. Love the variety with that caliber.

Want it for home defense, and I'm not reloading HD rounds. Think I would enjoy reloading for hunting, in theory, but I already have a shotshell reloader that I haven't even touched since I got it.

[Farley1324]

Rthoe I call BS.

Took all of 2 minutes in the airport to be told I had to put a mask on

[Ikeman83]

Btw, the 300 blk rd still has 420 ft lbs of energy at 200 yds.

The main application is hogging I expect but you're not going to have difficulty taking a deer.

The round's also going to stay together because it's a heavy, slow, slug.

[Bo_Flecks]

Rthoe I call BS.

Took all of 2 minutes in the airport to be told I had to put a mask on

A little cross thread action happening here?

[JChippy]

A little cross thread action happening here?

Negative. Few days ago rthoe mentioned no mask in airport and no issues

[Bo_Flecks]

Negative. Few days ago rthoe mentioned no mask in airport and no issues

Ah, okay.

In the last few weeks, I’ve been in Lambert, LaGuardia, and Sky Harbor. Pretty sure I wouldn’t have made it ten feet without a mask in any of those places without being converged upon.

Smaller airports may be more lax, tho. IDK

[RgrJNC]

Smaller airports may be more lax, tho. IDK

^airport pun

[RgrJNC]

I was gonna get a 43x but it's the same size(grip length with mag) as my 19 so there's no point

[JChippy]

I was gonna get a 43x but it's the same size(grip length with mag) as my 19 so there's no point

Always a reason to get another firearm. If you have to ask, you need it

[LinuxJon]

PSA:

The Tenicore Zero belt is garbage. It's way too thin. Less comfortable than my $20 eBay tactical belt.

Edges are actually sharp and its extremely uncomfortable if it rises up past your pants belt line anywhere.

[RgrJNC]

lmao

[rectifryer]

As a complete dumb dumb when it comes to reloading or ammo in general. If you're able to reload your own ammo would you theoretically be able to make ammo that isn't available to civilians? Like the 5.7 rounds that are only available for law enforcement or military? Or is that more the tips of the round or what?

lmao

The overall lesson of the art of war is to not lose touch with fundamentals in emotional times.

[RThoe]

Rthoe I call BS.

Took all of 2 minutes in the airport to be told I had to put a mask on

This was just a few weeks ago before the "winter of death" omicron variant came up, so the Nazis may be out in full force now.

Don't take my word for it, there are plenty of videos of people doing it as well. David Harris Jr. is a big personality on IG, he travels weekly and always posts videos, including IG lives, of himself walking around without a mask on. It's not BS at all.

[benz5521]

factory 190 gr hornady 300blk and 180gr .357 hornady are nearly identical at the muzzle

i dont see why anyone would want to hunt with subsonic ammo is the thing. unless theyre doing illegal things.


a guy can use an AR pistol here on the handgun hunts, which i think is BS personally. but theres some handgun cow elk tags i was thinking a 300blk would be pretty legit, with the proper ammo.

O yea. I wouldn’t use subsonic for hunting.

The whole appeal to 300blk to me is basically having the most powerful semi-auto subsonic round that you can have.

I busted it out today for those guys that were training on our range and they couldn’t believe how quiet it was. You hear the bolt cycling and the round hitting the dirt is the loudest part. We shot a suppressed 22LR next to it and that was louder.

There’s some good supersonic hunting rounds I believe though. 110g Barnes or something maybe. Not sure.

[Bo_Flecks]

It really does appear to be the end of days around here. Dude has had pron posted for 6 hours out on the front page.

[criminal_manne]

It really does appear to be the end of days around here. Dude has had pron posted for 6 hours out on the front page.

Do we even have mods?

Is puni just a former mod? Can’t think of an active one.

[GooBaaa]

Took a little bit till I had time to build it, Aero did a hell of a job on the EP9 everything fits snug and perfect

[Bo_Flecks]

Looks nice! Hopefully this board will be up long enough to get your range experience with it.

The mobs have abandoned us on this sinking ship.