Misc Firearms Crew LXXXI: Tritium Vials and ATF Denials

[kcuviello]

Then I go to his house, and he has this beautiful home defense tool in the farthest reaches of his basement, locked up in his fire safe.

I think this is most people. Me included.

[EDcellent]

My stepfather is the one in the family involved in firearms. Aside from hunting once or twice a year, he's basically all set gift wise related to firearms. However since I moved out to Wyoming, I got him a shirt from the local gun range. I'm also getting him some jerky from local game, and a couple gift cards.

[LinuxJon]

When you bros decide to get a safe, get as BIG as possible. Once you add optics, slings, lights, etc., they’ll hold about half the advertised capacity.
You’ll also need room for growth

If argue that the first rule is: buy an actual safe. Not a RSC made of sheet metal like Liberty, etc make. Much happier I bought something with real security that was more modest in size.

[LinuxJon]

Since I fled the state, I haven't kept up with CA laws. Didn't realize the mag cap law was reinstated last week.

Guess I left just in time.

[RThoe]

Regarding safes, if you're going to keep it in the garage be sure to bolt it down. If someone breaks in they can easily just haul it away. The same could be potentially said for it inside the house, though it's not nearly as accessible as one in the garage.

Since I fled the state, I haven't kept up with CA laws. Didn't realize the mag cap law was reinstated last week.

Guess I left just in time.

Reinstated? I didn't even know it was lifted lol.

[Ikeman83]

Since I fled the state, I haven't kept up with CA laws. Didn't realize the mag cap law was reinstated last week.

Guess I left just in time.

It was not. The state won on appeal to an en banc panel but the stay remains because Saint Benitez put it in place until all appeals are resolved. Plaintiff (gun owner) is appealing to SCOTUS, which will probably hold off until the NY case is decided.

[LinuxJon]

It was not. The state won on appeal to an en banc panel but the stay remains because Saint Benitez put it in place until all appeals are resolved. Plaintiff (gun owner) is appealing to SCOTUS, which will probably hold off until the NY case is decided.

Interesting. I just had dropped in to Calguns and read all of the people basically asking about how they can legally sell their standard mags and at least recover the financial loss. Figured it had to be a done deal with the way everyone was talking.

[NuggzTheNinja]

Interesting. I just had dropped in to Calguns and read all of the people basically asking about how they can legally sell their standard mags and at least recover the financial loss. Figured it had to be a done deal with the way everyone was talking.

lol what a bunch of cucks. Cali really is doomed.

[gbullock32]

lol what a bunch of cucks. Cali really is doomed.

Yep...

https://www.yahoo.com/news/response-...043752660.html

[criminal_manne]

lol what a bunch of cucks. Cali really is doomed.

Can’t call Cali Cucks when most of the people ITT file form 1’s to sbr lowers and have a fit if you dare suggest disobeying the king.

No bigger self cucking than registering an sbr

[Bo_Flecks]

I think this is most people. Me included.

We all keep our firearms secured. That’s what responsible gun owners do. But…

He specifically bought the LWRC rifle for home defense, but it’s locked up in an an un-accessible safe 24/7.

So here’s the scenario:

He’s laying in bed at night watching TV. Boom! The door gets kicked in.

Now this 82 year old man with bad knees has to get out of bed, walk out of his bedroom in the dark, walk down the hallway, walk through the living room, walk to the foyer, hobble down stairs into the basement, walk all the way over to the other end of the basement to his gun safe, work the combination in the dark, open the safe, pull the rifle out, load up a magazine, work his way back over to the basement stairs, hobble back up the basement stairs to the foyer, and now he’s ready to defend his home.

The whole set of circumstances boggles my mind.

But where my father is concerned, I am like Jesus in Nazareth.

[Ikeman83]

So, Tactical Walls makes a dry erase board concealment wall, which would be perfect, except that the studs on the wall I want to put it on are exactly wrongly placed. Does anyone know a concealment option that will fit a handgun that doesn't require mounting inside of your drywall and that has a dry erase board on it?

[Ikeman83]

We all keep our firearms secured. That’s what responsible gun owners do. But…

He specifically bought the LWRC rifle for home defense, but it’s locked up in an an un-accessible safe 24/7.

So here’s the scenario:

He’s laying in bed at night watching TV. Boom! The door gets kicked in.

Now this 82 year old man with bad knees has to get out of bed, walk out of his bedroom in the dark, walk down the hallway, walk through the living room, walk to the foyer, hobble down stairs into the basement, walk all the way over to the other end of the basement to his gun safe, work the combination in the dark, open the safe, pull the rifle out, load up a magazine, work his way back over to the basement stairs, hobble back up the basement stairs to the foyer, and now he’s ready to defend his home.

The whole set of circumstances boggles my mind.

But where my father is concerned, I am like Jesus in Nazareth.

Our rifles are in a quick access safe in the closet ~10 ft away, and even that feels too far...

[Farley1324]

Our rifles are in a quick access safe in the closet ~10 ft away, and even that feels too far...

I think this speaks towards your confidence in your door and window security + alarm, or lack thereof

[Brozef]

Can’t call Cali Cucks when most of the people ITT file form 1’s to sbr lowers and have a fit if you dare suggest disobeying the king.

No bigger self cucking than registering an sbr

I'm fearing for your dog's life rn

[criminal_manne]

I'm fearing for your dog's life rn

Just saying if there was a federal ban on mags over 10 rounds 99% of people’s standard capacity mags wouldn’t see the light of day ever again. Facts.

[Bo_Flecks]

I think this speaks towards your confidence in your door and window security + alarm, or lack thereof

I have a big ass alarm system connected to a siren, etc., but I also recognize the limitations of my house. It’s an atrium ranch that is mostly glass on the back overlooking the view, and a front porch that is 90% glass as well.

If a dude walks under the service flags I fly 24/7 and kicks in the front door, he will be hit with 62gr bonded death sentences before he can even exit the foyer. Guaranteed.

[Farley1324]

Would those be the Fusion MSR 223?

[rectifryer]

Our rifles are in a quick access safe in the closet ~10 ft away, and even that feels too far...

Anything is too far when you're flashbanged

That's why I sleep with active optics and audio on.

In fact, I don't even know where my real body is. It's in a pod bank somewhere.

[Ikeman83]

I think this speaks towards your confidence in your door and window security + alarm, or lack thereof

I feel good about our door/window security and alarm. What I don't feel good about is the amount of glass we have and the fact that I'll be asleep and the person coming in will not. Having the master bedroom on the ground floor has me wanting a faster access.

[Bo_Flecks]

Would those be the Fusion MSR 223?

Yep.

IMO, the 62gr Fusion is the best structural defense round on the market available to civilians.

I want a round that is going to perform extremely well on soft targets, and also be relatively barrier blind. I don’t know what I may encounter in my home. I may need to shoot through glass, shoot through a door, or even shoot through drywall, and a bonded soft point gives me the best chance of a round holding together and neutralizing the target.

Make no mistake, in my home I will rule the night and control the chaos.

[Bo_Flecks]

I feel good about our door/window security and alarm. What I don't feel good about is the amount of glass we have and the fact that I'll be asleep and the person coming in will not. Having the master bedroom on the ground floor has me wanting a faster access.

I don’t think I’ve truly slept since my early twenties. I doze.

My wife says I can hear a mouse fart at night. Kinda sucks.

[Ikeman83]

Yep.

IMO, the 62gr Fusion is the best structural defense round on the market available to civilians.

I want a round that is going to perform extremely well on soft targets, and also be relatively barrier blind. I don’t know what I may encounter in my home. I may need to shoot through glass, shoot through a door, or even shoot through drywall, and a bonded soft point gives me the best chance of a round holding together and neutralizing the target.

Make no mistake, in my home I will rule the night and control the chaos.

I think one of the things that's consistently underestimated about the AR is how great your bullet selection choices are. Need to defeat obstacles? There's a bullet for that. Need to not defeat obstacles? There's a bullet for that. (or at least a better bullet)

[LinuxJon]

Our rifles are in a quick access safe in the closet ~10 ft away, and even that feels too far...

I can't do a safe at night. Would never trust myself to be that fast.

When I lock the bedroom door for the night, carry guns gets put in the safe and the bedside rifle gets pulled out.

I am really happy I insisted on a home with all bedrooms on the second floor. Our last home had the worst imaginable layout for home defense.

[Ikeman83]

I can't do a safe at night. Would never trust myself to be that fast.

When I lock the bedroom door for the night, carry guns gets put in the safe and the bedside rifle gets pulled out.

I am really happy I insisted on a home with all bedrooms on the second floor. Our last home had the worst imaginable layout for home defense.

Tell me you don't have kids without telling me you don't have kids.

[Brozef]

Yep.

IMO, the 62gr Fusion is the best structural defense round on the market available to civilians.

I want a round that is going to perform extremely well on soft targets, and also be relatively barrier blind. I don’t know what I may encounter in my home. I may need to shoot through glass, shoot through a door, or even shoot through drywall, and a bonded soft point gives me the best chance of a round holding together and neutralizing the target.

Make no mistake, in my home I will rule the night and control the chaos.

How about Federal 62 gr SOST mk318? Supposed to be pretty good shiit.

EDIT just realized it's the same as the Fusion



Also wonder about this stuff, haven't looked into it yet though:

https://www.underwoodammo.com/223-re...led-chaos.html

[Farley1324]

How about Federal 62 gr SOST mk318? Supposed to be pretty good shiit.

EDIT just realized it's the same as the Fusion



Also wonder about this stuff, haven't looked into it yet though:

https://www.underwoodammo.com/223-re...led-chaos.html

Wait what?

PRetty sure mk318 is not bonded

WHEELS

[LinuxJon]

Tell me you don't have kids without telling me you don't have kids.

We have a 3 year old. I'm not that worried he's going to wake up and 1) defeat his door's child safety latch, 2) somehow defeat our door lock, 3) get the rifle from the rack 6' up the wall and 4) be able to operate the charging handle to chamber a round... all before I would be awake and realize it.

Obviously during the day where doors are unlocked and people are awake, everything is on my person or in my safe.

[benz5521]

Talking about safes. I just sold a safe yesterday. That Liberty Colonial 50 Extreme. Dude showed up with a skid steer and dragged it out of the garage with a tow strap and then picked it up. Won’t get in to the why but found some lightweight ones that you can piece together and might be good for inside.

Shot today like usual. Shot a Sig Legion and that’s a cool gun. That’ll be the next buy to put the SRO on.

Had some fun with machine guns like usual as well. This is me. In4 Farley says to delete Instagram because it’s cancer.

https://instagram.com/stories/the.we...dium=copy_link

[Bo_Flecks]

How about Federal 62 gr SOST mk318? Supposed to be pretty good shiit.

EDIT just realized it's the same as the Fusion



Also wonder about this stuff, haven't looked into it yet though:

https://www.underwoodammo.com/223-re...led-chaos.html

I’m really not that familiar with MK318. It seems like in the past there’s always been an availability issue, and if you were able to order it, it had to be ordered in something like 10,000 round quantities.

I know that late in the GWOT, some ODA guys were using heavy OTM very successfully.

Given that the 62gr Fusion is the civilian marketed version of the FBI 62gr Bear Claw (they’ve been using for years to drop shytbags like it’s going out of style), and is readily available to civilians, I’ve chosen it due to the success it’s had in the real world.

I think the only discernible difference between the Fusion and the Bear Claw is that the Fusion is a boat tail, and the Bear Claw has a flat base.