Is this the reality of natty lifting (reddit 2 year transformation)

[tendies]

M/28/6'0"/184lb (starting weight 170)

Bench 95 275
Squat 215 405
Deadlift 225 465

[DrugsToGetBig]

yes

[drvillain]

he did a damn good job though..

edit: actually idk.

[potbellymadar]

Start lactating?

[BLOATMOGGER]

He needs to do some cardio and eat cleaner. It's not a terrible muscle base for an amateur, he's just to fat to let it show properly.

[eod8989]

Nah to make gains as a natty you need to get your vitamin d levels up, take creatine and push yourself (get the biggest pump you can but don't overtrain like an idiot)

You can make gains pretty quick that way

[drvillain]

He needs to do some cardio and eat cleaner. It's not a terrible muscle base for an amateur, he's just to fat to let it show properly.

he looks leaner and weights more. I don't think cardio would help his physique much unless he wanted to cut

[JoeDelts]

No this is

[deaglebrah]

This is what happens when you do 5x5 only with no accessories. Looked bigger at 14 years old dead serious.

[thisisian]

That ****ot clearly isn't taking his multi

[trynbrah]

This is actually quite unrealistic most people won’t do this well.

[Autumnal]

reddit genetics

[quadfecta]

natty if he never lifted before that; he probably drinks beer regularly too which lowers natty T levels

misc standards: 2 week noob gains

[WiseOldApe]

Yeah and he also has good genetics - most people see no progress at all.

[JamesA1990]

Bench 95 275
Squat 215 405
Deadlift 225 465

He got better strength gains than all the misc

[achtungpanzer]

Check Avi boyo. That brah didn’t commit entirely, I bet his nutrition was lacking big time.

[BulkingIsHard]

You could probably get that in 1 year depending on genetics and receiving professional oversight for programming and diet.
2 years is still solid for anyone to accomplish.

[jordanair45]

2 years ? Wtf that’s terrible

I had better gains in the last 4 months after gym reopening.

Must lift like a little bitch

[1hardgainer]

Gonna have to see vids of those lifts. Hard to believe he can squat 405 and deadlift 465 based on those pics.

[hineyhole]

don't believe what you read about people's opinions on steroids. years ago i posted two pictures on misc that were 3-4 months apart and someone responded along the lines of 'expecting us to believe this a natural transformation is absolutely absurd.' little did the guy know it was 100% legit and i've never tried or even considered trying steriods. ever since then i knew in my heart of hearts that people have no idea what the fock they're talking about when it comes to steroids and probably proper nutrition and training for that matter

edit: found pics. this was just over 3 months and 100% achievable naturally. how do i know for a fact? because it was me and i proved it to myself. at the end of the day people will believe whatever they want to believe

[DimTriad]

reddit genetics

this and also prob a chit routine with little aesthetic focus

[GerbilFarmer]

Diet is probably chit and he probably doesn’t train to failure.

[SpeakethTruth]

Gonna have to see vids of those lifts. Hard to believe he can squat 405 and deadlift 465 based on those pics.

Maybe he pulls sumo?

Seriously though when it comes to naturals, those lifts aren't about how much their muscles pop. They're pretty much intermediate lifts, especially the bench which is barely beyond beginner level. People are just used to seeing pussies rely on 'supplements' for gains rather than training so they think 275 lb bench is a special lift when it's not.

[blissful88]

don't believe what you read about people's opinions on steroids. years ago i posted two pictures on misc that were 3-4 months apart and someone responded along the lines of 'expecting us to believe this a natural transformation is absolutely absurd.' little did the guy know it was 100% legit and i've never tried or even considered trying steriods. ever since then i knew in my heart of hearts that people have no idea what the fock they're talking about when it comes to steroids and probably proper nutrition and training for that matter

edit: found pics. this was just over 3 months and 100% achievable naturally. how do i know for a fact? because it was me and i proved it to myself. at the end of the day people will believe whatever they want to believe

Men don't double their quad size especially that fast; 3 months? LMAO

Coincidence that you claim the exact time frame a normal cycle is?

The anterior's & traps are a ded giveaway



The irony in your entire comment is astounding; absolutely fukking negged

[hineyhole]

Men don't double their quad size...

literally two side-by-side pictures of me "doubling" my quad size

...especially that fast..

...yes, they do. i did.

but i understand your position: if you considered that i was actually telling the truth then that would mean you'd have to admit your error in judgement and drastically redefine your concept of what's possible and what's not possible. it's much easier to just NOT believe me and wholly dismiss my claim. i notice you didn't even attempt to ask how i purportedly accomplished this before dismissing it entirely...

which is fine.

[lockdev]

Gonna have to see vids of those lifts. Hard to believe he can squat 405 and deadlift 465 based on those pics.

Strong this.

I even doubt the 275 bench.

Not saying that those lifts are not achievable in 2 years, but dude's physique tells a different story. I'd be surprised if he could get up 225. srs.

[SleepWithFan89]

He prolly doesn’t lift with intensity

[quadfecta]

don't believe what you read about people's opinions on steroids. years ago i posted two pictures on misc that were 3-4 months apart and someone responded along the lines of 'expecting us to believe this a natural transformation is absolutely absurd.' little did the guy know it was 100% legit and i've never tried or even considered trying steriods. ever since then i knew in my heart of hearts that people have no idea what the fock they're talking about when it comes to steroids and probably proper nutrition and training for that matter

edit: found pics. this was just over 3 months and 100% achievable naturally. how do i know for a fact? because it was me and i proved it to myself. at the end of the day people will believe whatever they want to believe

Apples to oranges. You clearly had a decent base from lifting experience already on the left and just took a break and got back into shape through muscle memory (strength and size both relevant). Would also assume you use sarms and claim natty on the right

Guy in the OP doesn’t look like he lifted a weight, so his gains are conservative for a gym noob who probably doesn’t know much about routines or putting on mass

[hineyhole]

He prolly doesn’t lift with intensity

...or eat like this every day

[hineyhole]

Apples to oranges. You clearly had a decent base from lifting experience already on the left and just took a break and got back into shape through muscle memory (strength and size both relevant). Would also assume you use sarms and claim natty on the right

Guy in the OP doesn’t look like he lifted a weight, so his gains are conservative for a gym noob who probably doesn’t know much about routines or putting on mass

100% correct.

i don't know what "sarms" is.

my "secret" is actually just coincidence: that i'd been training for years with little success. i starting eating a ridiculous amount after reading some book 'skinny 2 winner' or something like that from some black guy. i also did the push /pull routine with pretty much only compound exercises every session. i took protein, creatine, and i think a weight shake and this was when it all paid off. i gained over 20 pounds in just over three months. i got stretch marks in my upper arms.

here's the thing: i know i'm telling the truth and that's enough for me, i don't need to prove it to anyone. i attempted before and failed miserably. i don't care. you just have to understand how peculiar it feels to have someone guarantee you that you're absurd when you know the truth for a fact; the intensity with which they assert their conviction is the intensity with which they're wrong but no one knows it but you. it makes me chuckle. i swear it was essentially the exact same thread 10 years ago