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    Eddie Guerrero Trended in Twitter After a Fan Said He is a B+ Player

    So many fans angry. Even some wrestler replied, like Foley saying he is A+ player.

    Bout you guys? What do you think?

    By the way, is it true what Angle said? Eddie is always miserable and angry backstage but happy once he is wrestling? Angle said it may be because of his heart(which led to his death).

    Angle claimed Eddie started a fight with him(Eddie claimed Angle stiffed him but Angle denies this), Big Show separated them both. Angle later on wanna talk to him, but Eddie attacked him again.
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    Eddie was great, but in a way I agree. If you want to make a grade, that makes sense you have to keep the A+ for guys like Bret, Shawn, Stone Cold, Flair or Cena. If you give that grade to someone like Eddie, you'd suddenly have 50-100 wrestlers all rated A+.

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    Angle claimed Eddie started a fight with him(Eddie claimed Angle stiffed him but Angle denies this), Big Show separated them both. Angle later on wanna talk to him, but Eddie attacked him again.
    JBL, who was rather close with Eddie at that time, and tried to calm him down after the fight has told this story as well multiple times.
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    In what way? If we are talking about in-ring work he was one of the best ever. He developed into a great promo with huge charisma that was lacking a lot of his career later on. But if we are talking about his business he & Benoit didn't fare well when they put the belts on them in 2004.
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    Originally Posted by I3igAl View Post
    Eddie was great, but in a way I agree. If you want to make a grade, that makes sense you have to keep the A+ for guys like Bret, Shawn, Stone Cold, Flair or Cena. If you give that grade to someone like Eddie, you'd suddenly have 50-100 wrestlers all rated A+.



    JBL, who was rather close with Eddie at that time, and tried to calm him down after the fight has told this story as well multiple times.
    Damn! He should have got help for his problems(especially if it is a heart problem), maybe take a break from wrestling. No one knew about this? Shouldnt Vicki have interferred?

    That said, LOL @ starting a shoot fight against Angle. Even with his broken neck, Angle could have destroyed anyone except Trips and HBK.

    BTW, you are from Germany, right? I am visiting Germany later this year.
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    His career tragically being cut short does impact his grade. B+ feels like an insult because that overpushed B+ HHH turned it into one with Bryan but B means really really good.

    HHH is a B talent given a AAA+ push. Eddie was a B+ talent who earned his place and did not get the long career he should have.
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    Nothing wrong with being a B+. Not everyone can be an A+. He's one of the greats though during his time period. In the last 25 years, Guerrero belongs in the A tier.
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    Bret Hart gave that tweet 4/10.

    He was a B+ but that’s quite a good place to be.

    Not top tier but the next levels down with people like Jericho, Flair, Bret Hart.
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    Originally Posted by Thai_Clinch View Post
    Nothing wrong with being a B+. Not everyone can be an A+. He's one of the greats though during his time period. In the last 25 years, Guerrero belongs in the A tier.
    Given his competition for tv time..... Eddie was amazing! Honestly, he tapered at the end sure. However, the "Mommy" angle with Chyna, him with Vicki, etc. Driving out to the ramp. His lie, cheat and steal schtick worked. Eddie, Benoit, and Jericho were smaller guys. But they knew how to shine and put on a show. B+ is a good grade for his body of work. No way he is any less.
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    Fresh bowl of popcorn in front of you, would you rather watch:

    -Rock vs. Austin
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    Originally Posted by LiftBigEatBig View Post
    Fresh bowl of popcorn in front of you, would you rather watch:

    -Rock vs. Austin
    -Eddie vs. Benoit
    Promo package- rock/austin
    Actual match- obviously Eddie and Benoit
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    To the best of my knowledge Eddie Guerrero abused Vickie. And it got so harsh that she temporarily took the two daughters and left him until he hit rock bottom, then he changed, came to religion, gave up drugs and alcohol and I want to say he never hit her again when they got back together.
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    B+ is a good grade.
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    Originally Posted by ChristmasFnatic View Post

    BTW, you are from Germany, right? I am visiting Germany later this year.
    Yep, where are you going exactly?

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    this is what vince russo keeps talking about. wrestling is a fake tv show, so rock/austin would still be the best actual match. because wrestling is a work, its not a sport.

    this is why marks have ruined wrestling
    You got a point here. In ring skills are great to have, but promo abillities and charisma are more important.
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    Originally Posted by I3igAl View Post
    Yep, where are you going exactly?



    You got a point here. In ring skills are great to have, but promo abillities and charisma are more important.
    So far, my plan is Munich, Berlin, Dresden, and Frankfurt(2 weeks only cuz I am going to other countries). Basically Christmas market visits + World War 2 stuff. Suggest any more?
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    Originally Posted by ChristmasFnatic View Post
    So far, my plan is Munich, Berlin, Dresden, and Frankfurt(2 weeks only cuz I am going to other countries). Basically Christmas market visits + World War 2 stuff. Suggest any more?
    if you even like the ramones a little bit, check out the ramones museum in berlin. you don't need more than an hour or two. its a chill spot.
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    Originally Posted by I3igAl View Post
    You got a point here. In ring skills are great to have, but promo abillities and charisma are more important.
    I agree you need everything.

    But you can't fill a 3 hour PPV with 2 minute promo packages.

    Eddie already had the in-ring work dailed in, and his promo work was lulzy (especially as lie/cheat/steal).

    Grades are subjective, who cares. I enjoyed his work then, and I appreciate it even more now.

    Eddie was often the best match in WCW and WWE. A pretty good legacy to leave behind.
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    Originally Posted by yieldtonothing View Post
    if you even like the ramones a little bit, check out the ramones museum in berlin. you don't need more than an hour or two. its a chill spot.
    Not a big fan but know a few of their songs. Will see. Maybe I3igAl can show me some cool wrestling museum. Isnt Bret big there?
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    Originally Posted by ChristmasFnatic View Post
    So far, my plan is Munich, Berlin, Dresden, and Frankfurt(2 weeks only cuz I am going to other countries). Basically Christmas market visits + World War 2 stuff. Suggest any more?
    I am not convinced there will be Christmas markets this year due to CoVid. Frankfurt has one of the most famous one's in Germany though, thanks to it's medival marketplace. Berlin only has a lot of small ones. The best one is probably the one in Berlin-Friedrichshain on the RAW area. It's Christmas market and Renaissance Fair in one.

    It honestly depends on your method of travel. If you are going by train picking those three big cities makes sense. If you go with a rental car, you might want to check some smaller towns as well. If you are really into WW2 stuff, Remagen might be of interest. A Concentration Camp would be interesting as well. Osthofen is somewhat close to Frankfurt. If you are in Berlin already, you should visit Potsdam as well since both cities are so close to each other, they are more or less one.

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    Not a big fan but know a few of their songs. Will see. Maybe I3igAl can show me some cool wrestling museum. Isnt Bret big there?
    Wrestling is pretty niche in Germany in general. Dunno if there is some wrestling museum. Frankfurt probably has the most modern art museums in the country, Berlin some pretty great historic ones.

    The biggest promotion is in Essen, Germany and holds shows in the Ruhr district.
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    Brock lesnar is of German descent. Srs.
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    Brock lesnar is an insecure cuck. Who took a large amount of 'medicine' his whole life, so he could be big and strong, cos he is a lickle useless cuck, without said 'medicine'. Srs.
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    Brock lesnar is of German descent. Srs.
    He looks like an exxagerated drawing of the typical facial features of an Eastern German of Slavic decent or a Polish dude.
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    Fixted.
    No just not the case. If I were to say that though it would not be to his face wtf would?
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    He looks like an exxagerated drawing of the typical facial features of an Eastern German of Slavic decent or a Polish dude.
    How German are you? Maybe you could put a little more in brock lesnar lol. My dad asked me a question the other day about him. Would I bang his daughter. I honestly couldn’t come up with an answer. It is Brock Lesnar. I’d not want to upset him.
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    Originally Posted by I3igAl View Post
    I am not convinced there will be Christmas markets this year due to CoVid. Frankfurt has one of the most famous one's in Germany though, thanks to it's medival marketplace. Berlin only has a lot of small ones. The best one is probably the one in Berlin-Friedrichshain on the RAW area. It's Christmas market and Renaissance Fair in one.

    It honestly depends on your method of travel. If you are going by train picking those three big cities makes sense. If you go with a rental car, you might want to check some smaller towns as well. If you are really into WW2 stuff, Remagen might be of interest. A Concentration Camp would be interesting as well. Osthofen is somewhat close to Frankfurt. If you are in Berlin already, you should visit Potsdam as well since both cities are so close to each other, they are more or less one.


    Wrestling is pretty niche in Germany in general. Dunno if there is some wrestling museum. Frankfurt probably has the most modern art museums in the country, Berlin some pretty great historic ones.

    The biggest promotion is in Essen, Germany and holds shows in the Ruhr district.
    Hey man, dont even bring that thought that Christmas markets will be cancelled again this year! One of the main purpose for my trip!!! I mean if WWE got full packed shows now, surely 5 months from now, Christmas markets can be open again. Merkel better not **** this up!

    But thanks for the tips! Where in Germany are you from? Maybe we can grab something to drink. I dont drink alcohol, so Ill just order Starbucks frapp, or some milkshake.
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    Eddie was one of my favorites when I was younger, he is great in ring, he is charismatic, could talk, looked good despite being short. He is one of the best overall all time. But when it comes to all time greats there are tiers since pro wrestling is packed with wrestlers who people consider to be all time greats.

    Tier 1 is locked in no disputes, all the other tiers pretty much depend on who you like personally, which era you like/grew up watching.

    Tier 1 greats are: Hogan, Cena, Austin and Rock
    Tier 2 greats are: Undertaker, Hart, Michaels, Flair etc etc...
    Tier 3 greats are: Kane, Jericho etc etc....

    I'm not really gonna go into who goes into what tier since tier 2 onwards is pretty much who you like more.

    But I'd say Eddie Guerrero would fit more into the tier 3-4 category range. Not an A+ or A, but he is still great/one of the best.
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    Originally Posted by Nacured View Post
    Eddie was one of my favorites when I was younger, he is great in ring, he is charismatic, could talk, looked good despite being short. He is one of the best overall all time. But when it comes to all time greats there are tiers since pro wrestling is packed with wrestlers who people consider to be all time greats.

    Tier 1 is locked in no disputes, all the other tiers pretty much depend on who you like personally, which era you like/grew up watching.

    Tier 1 greats are: Hogan, Cena, Austin and Rock
    Tier 2 greats are: Undertaker, Hart, Michaels, Flair etc etc...
    Tier 3 greats are: Kane, Jericho etc etc....

    I'm not really gonna go into who goes into what tier since tier 2 onwards is pretty much who you like more.

    But I'd say Eddie Guerrero would fit more into the tier 3-4 category range. Not an A+ or A, but he is still great/one of the best.
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    A Negative Player then?
    A positive player that delivered smiles on the faces of fans due to the performance that he put on for the business!
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    How German are you? Maybe you could put a little more in brock lesnar lol. My dad asked me a question the other day about him. Would I bang his daughter. I honestly couldn’t come up with an answer. It is Brock Lesnar. I’d not want to upset him.
    The correct answer is and was no
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    Originally Posted by ChunkBuster View Post
    The correct answer is and was no
    It’s hard to say it though it’s the daughter of a man we hold in such high regard.
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