Vaccine now only 39% effective against delta and losing potency fast

[NYPat]

what? It’s called the trump vaccine for a reason
No plan for rollout? Lmao

I’m just glad you listened to Trump and took his vaccine like a good little boy

It's not called the Trump vaccine and never has been. He had no plan to distribute anything. Biden had to start from scratch and has done an unbelievable job, despite certain idiots in red states refusing to get them.

But you seem to be pro-vaccine, have you been vaccinated?

[5x10]

It's not called the Trump vaccine and never has been. He had no plan to distribute anything. Biden had to start from scratch and has done an unbelievable job, despite certain idiots in red states refusing to get them.

But you seem to be pro-vaccine, have you been vaccinated?

I would argue that it would be trump legacy as a president, fast tracking the trump vaccine (slightly ahead of the great economy)

I haven’t taken it yet, still considering

Here’s Biden and Kamala, with some real skepticism of the trump vaccine last year

https://twitter.com/9NANCYKUSA/statu...193635840?s=20

Now, like you, they rep the trump vaccine
Who would of thought you were on trumps side

[vickissick07]

It's not called the Trump vaccine and never has been. He had no plan to distribute anything. Biden had to start from scratch and has done an unbelievable job, despite certain idiots in red states refusing to get them.

But you seem to be pro-vaccine, have you been vaccinated?

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/mess...ry?id=76186823

Despite calls for national unity and bipartisanship, President Joe Biden and his top aides have declined to give the Trump administration credit on the nation's COVID-19 vaccine rollout while relying heavily on a system established by their predecessors.

Here's a look at what's reality and what's spin:

Biden insists he inherited 'a mess,' but the Trump vaccine rollout is a playbook he's mostly stuck with

Biden and his top aides have repeatedly accused the Trump administration of having "no plan."

"We're moving in the right direction, though, despite the mess we inherited from the previous administration, which left us with no real plan to vaccinate all Americans," Biden said in a Feb. 25 speech.

Likewise, Jeff Zients, coordinator of Biden's COVID-19 task force, told CBS News "60 Minutes" late last month that he gives credit to scientists and people who enrolled in the vaccine trials -- not the Trump administration.

"The bad news is there really was no plan to ramp up the supply of those vaccines," he said.

Those statements though aren't entirely accurate. While Biden has purchased additional vaccine supply, it was always expected that Pfizer and Moderna would ramp up their supply throughout the year.

Also, Biden's playbook for vaccine distribution has relied heavily on a system created by the Trump administration, including federal partnerships with state officials and agreements with local pharmacies. In fact, the federal pharmacy program created by Trump aides is what Biden relied on last week to expand eligibility to teachers.

And when Biden called for "100 million shots in 100 days" -- a pace of about 1 million shots per day -- former health officials noted that the U.S. had already hit that pace the week of Biden's inauguration in mid January.

even liberal **** rags disagree with you lmao.

[Dan_S]

Lol, what's the point of taking this vaccine then?

Ask all the Republicans like Ron DeSantis who are now telling everyone to get vaccinated.

I like how NYPat has completely derailed the question. And you people fall for it every time.

[StoliFun]

Just when I thought you could not get any dumber, you come through once again. In the updated memo, the one I posted..It is implicitly stating that if your positive PCR test does not correlate with the clinical picture of the patient, it could well be because the cycle threshold was too high for the viral load of the patient.

You see this piece of text:

“Users of IVDs must read and follow the IFU carefully to determine if manual adjustment of the PCR positivity threshold is recommended by the manufacturer.”

What do you think that manual adjustment refers to?

Changing the cycle threshold, obviously. It doesn't say anything about vaccinated or unvaccinated. I'll let you comb through all the vaccine efficacy studies that have come out in the past few months that the vaccine has been widely available and show me where they used different pcr thresholds for vaccinated vs unvaccinated samples.
You can start with the study referenced by the OP. This should be easy for you, to discredit all of these studies demonstrating the efficacy of these vaccines.

[Paul Kreul]

Changing the cycle threshold, obviously. It doesn't say anything about vaccinated or unvaccinated. I'll let you comb through all the vaccine efficacy studies that have come out in the past few months that the vaccine has been widely available and show me where they used different pcr thresholds for vaccinated vs unvaccinated samples.
You can start with the study referenced by the OP. This should be easy for you, to discredit all of these studies demonstrating the efficacy of these vaccines.

Cot dayum you are a fukin retard..truly... if your positive PCR test does “not correlate with the clinical picture of the patient”, it could well be because the cycle threshold was too high for the viral load of the patient...

Now what do you think the “clinical picture of the patient” is referring too?

Why the need for adjustment depending on the “clinical picture of the patient”

Think McFly..think.

And as for your other “CT”..Biden signed executive order to get US back into WHO. US is the biggest donor to the WHO. It's not hard to draw this out..even for you McFly

[StoliFun]

Cot dayum you are a fukin retard..truly... if your positive PCR test does “not correlate with the clinical picture of the patient”, it could well be because the cycle threshold was too high for the viral load of the patient...

Now what do you think the “clinical picture of the patient” is referring too?

Why the need for adjustment depending on the “clinical picture of the patient”

Think McFly..think.

And as for your other “CT”..Biden signed executive order to get US back into WHO. US is the biggest donor to the WHO. It's not hard to draw this out..even for you McFly

Clinical presentation is a term of art in the medical world. It's all the symptoms, patients complaints, and other physical phenomena the medical practitioner observes in the patient. It is not coded language. The WHO aren't trying to pull the wool over the eyes of the public. They're just talking to healthcare professionals in their language.

[Hallu]

there's a 1 in 100 chance you get hospitalized after testing positive for covid

there's a 1 in 15 chance you die after being hospitalized with covid.

considering 40 in 100 Americans are OBESE, I'll take my chances LMAO.

You do realize there can be consequences other than DEATH, correct?

If you really want to choose China virus over a vaccine that isn't the brightest move.

[aal04]

The vac seems to keep people from getting super sick but not really transmission.

There is no reason for vaccinated people to force anything to those who dont want to be vaccinated now. The unvaxxed have 0 impact on them since everyone will inevitably catch it

[OrdoAbchao]

You do realize there can be consequences other than DEATH, correct?

If you really want to choose China virus over a vaccine that isn't the brightest move.

That's fine if you want to believe that. Why would it be mandatory though? Freedom of choice solves this right?

[anglosaxon]

i hope they can get the booster shot out before fall time frame, or there are going to be a lot of deaths with a delta variant running rampant during flu season and no vaccine protection left. we will need a lockdown and mask mandate again if we cant get under control. pretty disappointed with the biden administration here. He called the end of masks way too early and now we have people dying from the delta variant and its spreading rapidly.

[anglosaxon]

That's fine if you want to believe that. Why would it be mandatory though? Freedom of choice solves this right?

what gives you the freedom to spread delta around?

[OrdoAbchao]

what gives you the freedom to spread delta around?

Who says I'm spreading Delta around? If I have any symptoms I would stay home just as vaccinated people that show symptoms should. If I am asymptomatic then I have no control over that.

[StoliFun]

Who says I'm spreading Delta around? If I have any symptoms I would stay home just as vaccinated people that show symptoms should. If I am asymptomatic then I have no control over that.

You can properly wear a mask regardless of vaccination status when you are in shared spaces. That will inhibit the spread of covid should you be asymptomatic.

[OrdoAbchao]

You can properly wear a mask regardless of vaccination status when you are in shared spaces. That will inhibit the spread of covid should you be asymptomatic.

I'm not really concerned about the virus. Those that are can get a vaccine and wear a mask. According to the Surgeon General 99.5% of deaths from covid are unvaccinated people. Is this misinformation?

[Paul Kreul]

Clinical presentation is a term of art in the medical world. It's all the symptoms, patients complaints, and other physical phenomena the medical practitioner observes in the patient. It is not coded language. The WHO aren't trying to pull the wool over the eyes of the public. They're just talking to healthcare professionals in their language.

They are referring to vaccinated individuals..if what you said was true, then the WHO would have passed that information on long ago..not RIGHT as the vaccine is rolling out. Fukin pathetic

[Paul Kreul]

You can properly wear a mask regardless of vaccination status when you are in shared spaces. That will inhibit the spread of covid should you be asymptomatic.

No dipchit, a mask has no effect on viral transmission, the main transmission path is long-residence-time aerosol particles (< 2.5 μm), which are too fine to be blocked, and the minimum-infective dose is smaller than one aerosol particle.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/19773292/

You literally get everything wrong about Covid. Please..Don’t contaminate the gene pool with your seed

[StoliFun]

They are referring to vaccinated individuals..if what you said was true, then the WHO would have passed that information on long ago..not RIGHT as the vaccine is rolling out. Fukin pathetic

Are you seriously claiming that this memo is proof that the WHO are conspiring with millions of honest, conscientious healthcare professionals all because, until today, you did not know the meaning of "clinical presentation"?

141 people in New South Wales in hospital with Kung Flu, 140 have been jabbed

99.3% of hospitalised infection cases have been jabbed

Almost the same as the survival rate of those who get infected

I'm going to need a source for that.

[WHChampion]

I'm going to need a source for that.

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[greenleaf]

There is no reason for vaccinated people to force anything to those who dont want to be vaccinated now.

The Moderna cult members are the most annoying.

[badreligion]

You do realize there can be consequences other than DEATH, correct?

If you really want to choose China virus over a vaccine that isn't the brightest move.

There are numerous counter measures you can take, if someone gets Covid it is not automatically a death sentence...Turn off the TV.

[Dave22reborn]

There are numerous counter measures you can take, if someone gets Covid it is not automatically a death sentence...Turn off the TV.

Something like hundreds of millions of people worldwide have caught the Rona, imagine if every single one of them went to the hospital.

[aal04]

Woman in early 30s dies today in Australia of Kung Flu.

No comorbidities, no other contributing factors.

Was double jabbed.

Clown world.

Can you confirm the girl was vaxed? she was 39 btw

[NYPat]

what? It’s called the trump vaccine for a reason
No plan for rollout? Lmao

I’m just glad you listened to Trump and took his vaccine like a good little boy

I got my Biden vaccine in March thanks. But weird how you want to give credit to Trump but haven't taken it... just like all the other idiotic Trumpers. Weird.

Can you confirm the girl was vaxed? she was 39 btw

TinyPP is a moron. You can pretty much disregard anything he claims.

[Dave22reborn]

I got my Biden vaccine in March thanks. But weird how you want to give credit to Trump but haven't taken it... just like all the other idiotic Trumpers. Weird.






TinyPP is a moron. You can pretty much disregard anything he claims.

You're not elderly, and you're not an essential worker. So how did you get it in March?

[Dan_S]

what gives you the freedom to spread delta around?

Vaccine doesn't prevent spread. You all admit that now.

So isn't it a 100% personal decision?

[metroins]

You're not elderly, and you're not an essential worker. So how did you get it in March?

Some states opened it up earlier.

I was first dose vaccinated January 15. I think by March a lot of states had opened it up.

[Dave22reborn]

Some states opened it up earlier.

I was first dose vaccinated January 15. I think by March a lot of states had opened it up.

You got it on January 15th? Yeah, I call bull**** on that one.

[metroins]

You got it on January 15th? Yeah, I call bull**** on that one.

You are wrong a lot. It is unfortunate.

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https://forum.bodybuilding.com/showt...post1628825473

[EdwardTheGreat]

what gives you the freedom to spread delta around?

So lock yourself up at home.

You want everyone to get rid of their cars because you are afraid of getting hit by one?