Hey guys why do you like Taurine and what does it do for you?

OMEGA · 10-21-2003, 03:52 PM

thanks just curiuos =-)

pu12en12g · 10-21-2003, 03:55 PM

http://www.supplementwatch.com/supat...pplementId=274

Supplement Taurine

Description Taurine is an amino acid found throughout the body, but chiefly in nerve tissue and muscle. It is thought to help regulate heartbeat and muscle contractions, water balance, energy levels and levels of neurotransmitters in the brain. The body normally makes all the taurine that it needs, so supplements are typically not required. However, taurine is sometimes considered to be a "conditionally essential" amino acid - meaning that under certain conditions, such as physical exertion, disease or injury, the body may not be able to synthesize enough taurine to meet demands. Although newborn babies cannot synthesize taurine, healthy adults make their own out of other amino acids (using vitamin B6 in the conversion of either cysteine or methionine to taurine). The best dietary sources of taurine are protein foods such as meat, poultry, eggs, dairy, and fish. Beans and nuts, which are rich sources of protein, do not contain taurine, but they do contain methionine and cysteine (which can be made into taurine by the body).

Claims · Increases physical endurance and reaction speed
· Increases concentration and mental alertness (stay awake)
· Improves overall feeling of well being
· Strengthens heart muscle (Congestive Heart Failure)
· Prevents Cataracts
· Reduces Blood Pressure
· Enhances water balance and nutrient uptake in muscle cells ("cell-volumizing")
· Aids hydration before/during exercise (used in sports drinks)

Theory Taurine is the second most abundant amino acid in the muscle amino acid pool (after glutamine) - so the door is open for claims to be made for a wide variety of potential physiological and metabolic functions. Cellular depletion of taurine has been linked to developmental defects, retinal damage, immunodeficiency, impaired cellular growth and the development of a cardiomyopathy. These findings have encouraged the use of taurine in infant formula, nutritional supplements and energy promoting drinks. It is theorized that periods of stress, both physical and mental, can deplete body levels of taurine and increase overall taurine requirements. Taurine is also theorized to have "cell volumizing" effects similar to (or synergistic with) creatine, whereby it may help boost cell hydration and result in a higher rate of protein synthesis. These effects of taurine to enhance the water content of cells has been used in various sports drinks to enhance their effects in warding-off dehydration during exercise in the heat. Taurine is also considered to be a mild inhibitory neurotransmitter, with some evidence of effectiveness in treating epilepsy and other excitable brain states. This last effect (as a form of sedative) would appear to go against the primary use of taurine in energy drinks and mental performance cocktails, but the overall effect could be due more to a "balancing" effect on nerve impulses, but this has yet to be demonstrated. Finally, taurine is frequently recommended as a supplement for promoting "heart health" because of the low taurine levels observed in patients following heart attacks. In this regard, taurine appears to offer potential in the treatment of arrhythmia (abnormal heartbeat) and reducing blood pressure, but the doses are relatively high at 2-6 grams per day. Other proposed uses for taurine stimulation of immune function, treatment of cataracts, alleviation of mild depression and improvement in male fertility - though none of these is very well substantiated.

Scientific Support For the most frequent use of taurine in dietary supplements (energy levels and mental performance), the most popular product (Red Bull Energy Drink) has a handful of studies behind it. The Red Bull mixture of taurine, caffeine and glucuronolactone has been shown to increase alertness and maintain reaction time and feelings of well-being (as the placebo group gets sleepy later into the night). These effects appear to be due to more than just the caffeine content (which is about the same as a cup of coffee at 80mg/250ml), but whether or not the effects are due to the taurine, the sugar or something else in the drink is still a question mark.

The other places that we see a lot of taurine use in supplements these days are in combination with creatine in muscle building products. Red Bull and others use taurine for its alleged effects in modulating neurotransmitter release (a theoretical effect), while other supplement companies use taurine for its effects in regulating water balance and enhancing the effects of creatine supplementation (some of the body-building companies refer to this as a muscle "volumizing" effect). The enhanced water content of muscle cells may even provide a hydration and performance benefit to endurance athletes exercising in the heat.

Taurine also has some data for benefits in treating certain forms of heart malfunction such as Congestive Heart Failure (higher doses of 2-6 grams/day over 4 weeks). This effect most likely has more to do with correcting either generalized malnutrition or an underlying metabolic dysfunction in synthesizing taurine than any actual performance effect that would transfer to healthy people (and other supplements such as Coenzyme Q10 and Carnitine have more powerful effects in this regard). There are at least three mechanisms that could account for the beneficial effect of taurine in heart health. First, taurine has actions in regulating water balance via the kidneys and may help to normalize both salt and water balance following exercise and during heart failure. Second, taurine is known to modulate nerve conduction by regulating electrolyte flux. Third, taurine appears to attenuate the actions of angiotensin II - acting somewhat like an ACE inhibitor to reduce blood pressure.

Taurine (6 grams/day) has also been shown to significantly reduce urinary norepinephrine excretion, which implies a suppression of the sympathetic nervous system. This effect could be theorized to contribute to an "anti-stress" benefit, though any direct anti-stress effects have not been specifically documented.

Safety Taurine supplementation has been examined at levels up to several grams per day (at least 6 grams/day) with no apparent adverse side effects. A not of caution should be made regarding the growing popularity of using taurine-based energy drinks as a "mixer" for alcoholic beverages. Such concoctions are widely believed (by the users) to induce a feeling of energy and euphoria, while "counteracting" the depressive effects of alcohol (which is completely false). There have been case reports of individuals attempting to drive following consumption of alcohol mixed with energy drinks - and it needs to be emphasized that neither the taurine nor the caffeine has the ability to alleviate the intoxicant effects of the alcohol (if you're drunk, these drinks do not make you sober)!

Value Among the popular taurine-containing energy drinks, key claims center around "feeling awake in body and mind" - certainly a valuable benefit for most people. There does appear to be an "energetic" benefit delivered to people using these drinks in situations such as long (sleep-inducing) drives and in feelings of well-being when staying up late. Whether or not taurine offers any direct performance enhancement with regard to athletic activities is debatable.

Since the body can make its own taurine under most conditions (out of B6, methionine and cysteine), the argument can be made that supplementation is unnecessary. However, taurine deficiencies have been documented in vegans (strict vegetarians) and in diabetics and sub-optimal levels have been theorized to occur in people under high levels of emotional or physical stress.

Dosage Multi-gram doses of taurine have been used in studies of heart function (up to 6 grams per day). Smaller doses (500-1500mg/day) have been used in studies of brain function (epilepsy). Typical commercial doses found in energy drinks are generally in the range or 50-100mg.

pu12en12g · 10-21-2003, 03:56 PM

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NO MERCY · 10-21-2003, 04:01 PM

good post thanks for the info

OMEGA · 10-21-2003, 04:06 PM

wholy crap!!!!!!!1

thankyou!

dito · 10-21-2003, 04:18 PM

I use 10g before bed for sleep.

seanconnery · 10-21-2003, 04:51 PM

From BigAndy69's Clenbuterol handbook:

Quote:

Taurine MUST be used with Clen at 3-5g daily. Clenbuterol depletes taurine
levels in the liver which stops the conversion of T4 to T3 in the liver.
Taurine allows the user to avoid the dreaded rebound effect and painful muscle
cramps. It's a must with Clen.

OMEGA · 10-22-2003, 06:43 AM

bump

so others can see this too =)

good stuff

OMEGA · 10-22-2003, 06:47 AM

pu12en12g

thankyou once again =-)

pu12en12g · 10-22-2003, 07:00 AM

No problem

I think taurine is good stuff for the $$

OMEGA · 10-22-2003, 07:07 AM

whats your price? and how much?

I think I would like to try it.

hopefully to help while taking ECA's

**sawastea** · 10-22-2003, 07:12 AM

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Originally posted by OMEGA
whats your price? and how much?

I think I would like to try it.

hopefully to help while taking ECA's

http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/taurine.html

OMEGA · 10-22-2003, 07:28 AM

thanks sawastea

psy · 10-22-2003, 08:47 AM

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Originally posted by OMEGA
pu12en12g

thankyou once again =-)

more good imfo thanks!

zachattack43 · 10-22-2003, 09:06 AM

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Originally posted by sawastea
http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/taurine.html

kinda limiting on the choices there huh?

psy · 10-22-2003, 10:24 AM

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Originally posted by zachattack43
kinda limiting on the choices there huh?

Zach did a web search hope this helps...NOW TAURINE 500mg 100 CAPS; NOW - MAG/POTASSIUM ASPARTATE W/TAURINE 120 CAPS; NOW VITAMINS - Magnesium & Potassium Aspartate w/Taurine 120/Caps; Country Life - TAURINE 500 MG W/B-6 50/TABLETS; Country Life - TAURINE 500 MG W/B-6 100/TABLETS; Country Life - TAURINE 500 MG CAPS W/B-6 50/CAPS; Country Life - TAURINE 500 MG CAPS W/B-6 100/CAPS

SupaNatural · 10-22-2003, 11:03 AM

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Originally posted by zachattack43
kinda limiting on the choices there huh?

It's basically the only choice on this board now. Not that I blame anybody for following the letter of the law. Cyberstore sales do keep this board up after all.

If you haven't already noticed there has been a lot more monitoring of retailer content.

zachattack43 · 10-22-2003, 11:07 AM

thanks for the search psy. Yea i agree with you Supa. I have been warned twice, so here and there i order from bb.com. After all they introduced to me almost everything i know now, whether its from the forum, the articles and products. gotta love them you know

psy · 10-22-2003, 11:26 AM

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Originally posted by Supa Freek 420
It's basically the only choice on this board now. Not that I blame anybody for following the letter of the law. Cyberstore sales do keep this board up after all.

If you haven't already noticed there has been a lot more monitoring of retailer content.

I agree with you to a point. However i am not a retailer, nor do I work in the supplement industry or in any related industry. that said, I AM one on the people that helps pay the bills of this and YES other companies on here by buying from them. I dont think that if one of us (THE CONSUMER) finds an exceptionally good deal on one product that they should not be allowed to share it with the rest of us. It does appear blatant Advertising by a few have spoiled that for the rest of Us it is very unfortunate. In the real world would you pay 20% more for the same thing just to support a store you shop at regularily any way? thats the way i veiw it IMHO

sory to get off the topic of your thread omega; but this is a sore point and keeps coming up. You ARE in the supp buisness where do you sit on this topic??

OMEGA · 10-22-2003, 06:38 PM

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Originally posted by psy
sorry to get off the topic of your thread omega; but this is a sore point and keeps coming up. You ARE in the supp buisness where do you sit on this topic??

Well I started out as a member like many of you here, and the other boards that I have had the pleasure of being on gave me alot

I met great people, learned new things in all areas of our lifstyle, and just have had a rewarding experience all around.

I love helping out now since I have accumulated a bit of helpfull knowledge

also the boards have allowed me to share a product that I believe in, and memebers have embrassing it and extended me trust

that means alot.

that being said I think each board deserves something back

they give us so much, and they need to survive

survivial is done through revenue

whether this revenue is done through banner adds, a store or both

we as the members should recoginze that not only do we get a good deal on products that are being shared, but also that our purchases butresses the foundations of the very sites we love and thus assure it to stay here for other future individuals to appreciate and learn from

psy · 10-22-2003, 07:06 PM

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wojo · 10-22-2003, 07:07 PM

taurine is a awesome suppheres why
http://www.thorne.com/altmedrev/full...aurine3-2.html

Simon Keller · 10-22-2003, 07:44 PM

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Originally posted by wojo
taurine is an awesome supp heres why
http://www.thorne.com/altmedrev/full...aurine3-2.html

And you can get pure Taurine powder VERY cheaply...

OMEGA · 10-22-2003, 09:29 PM

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Originally posted by psy
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wow =) that was profound

J/K

wojo · 10-23-2003, 10:44 AM

omega i use 10 grams before bed mixed with gatorade and sleep like a baby..read the link above i posted and get the powder from bac its 300 grams for 7 bucks..cheap as hell

**sawastea** · 10-23-2003, 02:21 PM

http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/tallon3.htm

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zachattack43, due to the new rules, if bb.com has it, then support the site

OMEGA · 10-23-2003, 04:16 PM

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Originally posted by wojo
omega i use 10 grams before bed mixed with gatorade and sleep like a baby..read the link above i posted and get the powder from bac its 300 grams for 7 bucks..cheap as hell

hey thanks

I have no idea what it does so its cool to hear what you guys get from it.
I am just interested as adding it to my personal supp list
thanks