12 Leading European Soccer teams agree plans to break away and create "Super League"

[TokenV]

it's pretty simple, anyone that isn't disgusted by this is not a football fan

100% ded srs

if you even consider this being a remotely good idea gtfo, you don't understand football cuture

again, 100% ded srs

[MatthewChav]

it's pretty simple, anyone that isn't disgusted by this is not a football fan

100% ded srs

if you even consider this being a remotely good idea gtfo, you don't understand football cuture

again, 100% ded srs

Totaly true TV yeah - dunno if I could have found better words to describe it

[aceroa]

To be honest I'm not completely opposed to the idea. It does seem most people are upset because it would hurt the domestic leagues and smaller clubs.

As far as relegation and promotion, it seems the founding clubs wouldn't be relegated, but 5 new teams would qualify to join every year based on performance.

Also, after reading their announcement, it seems all founding clubs will still compete in their respective domestic leagues since the Super League will be a mid-week competition. So it would mainly just replace the Champions League for the founding clubs.

[MatthewChav]

To be honest I'm not completely opposed to the idea. It does seem most people are upset because it would hurt the domestic leagues and smaller clubs.

As far as relegation and promotion, it seems the founding clubs wouldn't be relegated, but 5 new teams would qualify to join every year based on performance.

Also, after reading their announcement, it seems all founding clubs will still compete in their respective domestic leagues since the Super League will be a mid-week competition. So it would mainly just replace the Champions League for the founding clubs.

It may be so for the Italian and Spanish but I think I speak for 85% of England that we'd never want thezse Clubs back in our Domestic Structure!!

[NewBrahJP]

This has nothing to do with the essence of football. It's not how this sport (the most important, most popular in the world) works.

Things just got real and i think this is just the start... much, much more to come. Many people don't and won't accept this.

[TokenV]

To be honest I'm not completely opposed to the idea. It does seem most people are upset because it would hurt the domestic leagues and smaller clubs.

As far as relegation and promotion, it seems the founding clubs wouldn't be relegated, but 5 new teams would qualify to join every year based on performance.

Also, after reading their announcement, it seems all founding clubs will still compete in their respective domestic leagues since the Super League will be a mid-week competition. So it would mainly just replace the Champions League for the founding clubs.

brah it fuks everything up from top to bottom

where do those clubs priorities lie in the domestic league when there is no need to qualify for European football

hell they might even field a reserve squad in order to rest for a "bigger" SL fixture a couple of days later

besides these clubs will become even more filthy rich as they are today so competition is 100% ded

this is absolutely a disgrace for football and is purely catering to US and China audiences

not even bad intent in my statement, they just don't understand European football culture

[MatthewChav]

brah it fuks everything up from top to bottom

where do those clubs priorities lie in the domestic league when there is no need to qualify for European football

hell they might even field a reserve squad in order to rest for a "bigger" SL fixture a couple of days later

besides these clubs will become even more filthy rich as they are today so competition is 100% ded

this is absolutely a disgrace for football and is purely catering to US and China audiences

not even bad intent in my statement, they just don't understand European football culture

For England as long as our 6 go now that is all I care about now - they have monopolsed for years and taken up all the best Players thru their funds - they seem hellbent on the move , so just GO!!!

[TokenV]

lmfao, UEFA threatening to kick City, Real and Chelsea out of this years CL

don't see this happening but I honestly hope they do, FUK THEM ALL

[MatthewChav]

I mean as I said before would you be happy if Chinese billionaires came into American sports, buying clubs and changing the way your leagues work. What happens if Chinese owners came into the NFL and bought all the top top teams and created a new league where others couldn't join and ay you are are Titans fan and you weren't included. And you wouldn't be playing against teams like the Pats or Chiefs because they aren't competing in your league anymore.


And the superbowl would be Titans vs Colts. would that be good for NFL?

Hmm but with all respect this IS how the American Divisions work - Chinese Owners, Indian, Italian .... even English like David Beckham with Inter Miami (it's all a closed shop) regardless

[WestAfrica]

Why are people saying this are good. Lol at having “founding” teams that can’t be relegated so that we can have AC Milan who have been trash for past 10+ yrs as a “permanent” member. All its going to do is kill off every major league and make it unwatchable. This isn’t even a football move to make things more competitive. Its literally the bankers behind the teams “forcing” along with the owners making this league just for money.

Its like if the top 20 NCAAF football teams had their own league where they played each other. None of the other 150+ schools that depend on collective money would fall further and further behind. Their programs wouldn’t make chit and wouldn’t get players to come there.

Also RIP to 100-200+ years of soccer history in each European city. Soccer means more to Europeans and their towns vs any American sport/city.

[MatthewChav]

lmfao, UEFA threatening to kick City, Real and Chelsea out of this years CL

don't see this happening but I honestly hope they do, FUK THEM ALL

What - this is a Srs move now like legit!!?

[LethalOnGuitarZ]

This is a f***ing joke and anyone who follows football, understands what makes it magic and has grown up actually attending football matches knows this.

I grew up watching Sunderland with my dad in the late 90s and early 00s. Watching Sunderland take on giants like Chelsea and Manchester United, and sometimes beating them, was exhilarating to watch. This league will destroy moments like those for supporters of lower league clubs. Lower league clubs sometimes rely on playing big teams to draw in more revenue from packed stadiums. This will end that, and send many clubs further into bankruptcy.

This new league spits in the face of anyone who loves the meritocracy of football. The whole point of football is that, even when billionaire American owners buy up English football clubs, it isn't enough to buy them success. It rarely ever is. They finally understand that. So now they want to change the rules so that money DOES buy you success. In this case, it buys you access to the European elite of club football. It is beyond contemptuous to see rich owners behaving this way. Right now, the biggest clubs can - and often do - lose to the smaller clubs. That's what makes football magical. Half of the teams in this new league aren't even still in the champions league this year. Now they want a God given right to be in a league that's even 'better' than the Champions League.

And what will happen to talent? The lower clubs will become feeder clubs, sending talent off to the richer clubs. Let's face it, a 20-year-old star who's destined to become the next Messi will find it hard to resist a billion dollar wage. What's sad is that no one will be able to go to stadiums to watch these future stars play, because only the world's super rich will have access to these games.

Make no mistake, this is about rich billionaire businessmen taking hostage football clubs with hundreds of years of history. They are stealing the clubs, uprooting them, and transforming them into pure cash cow franchises for themselves. This is outrageous and it shouldn't be allowed to happen. These people don't understand European football culture. These football teams grew out of working class communities and have deep roots. It's not the same as the US.

If you think the Champions League sucks and needs shaking up, maybe you should find a different sport. Champions League upsets happen regularly and are what make the tournament so fascinating to behold at times. If you think this is the shake-up the sport needs, have fun watching Manchester United v Barcelona for the next ten years with supporters who probably don't even know the names of the players on the field.

I hope FIFA and UEFA stamp this out as soon as possible, by banning the teams, docking them points, warning players and forbidding them from playing for their countries. There is no other way to deal with this.

[TokenV]

What - this is a Srs move now like legit!!?

Per Reuters

Real Madrid, Manchester City and Chelsea will likely be banned from this season’s Champions League semi-finals, UEFA executive committee member Jesper Moller told broadcaster DR on Monday.

“The clubs must go, and I expect that to happen on Friday. Then we have to find out how to finish (this season’s) Champions League tournament,” said Moller, who is the head of the Danish FA. “There is an extraordinary executive committee meeting on Friday.”

[DigDeeper1]

Rumours are that Schalke have received an invite.

They are fighting relegation and have won twice this season.

Bloody joke

[mandarino]

There is no relegation/promotion. There will be 15 permanent founders with 5 buy ins most likely.
A lot of the foreign owners dont understand the concept of promotion/relegation, this has been said vocally.


Imagine you are ajax...pour resources into your club..cultivate..for what? To never be able to enter the super league and to get your players poached.


Basically Perez said...my team is always on top of the league..i dont play enough champions league/famous big boys ie arsenal juve united...lets ask them to join a rich club and just split 15billion a year.
Oh also ask spurs to join cuz they have a new stadium.
Meanwhile Madrid won what 2 leagues in 10 years, Arsenal 9th hasnt seen CL in ages, Juve gonna lose the league this year etc etc.


Its a poor mans version of nba/nfl they want to create. Not even best players or teams. No drafts like in american sports. You cant copy paste.

Have promotion/relegation and leicester roma sevilla lyon would be smacking up 60% of the super league regularly. Oh but we cant have that.

The super league will make 15 billion a year, watch them call a salary cap in super league to prevent the players from getting the cash and hoarding even more, its only logical.


If uefa/fifa ban you from playing for your country who cares. Messi and co will stop playing for barca etc. But the teams will just buy the best chinese and american players then. Wont be as good but will be entertaining, thats enough for them.


Have the best teams annually in the super league if you wanna be legit, oh wait thats called champions league.



Unfair, noncompetitive, greed are the three words to summarize this.

[Mike86er]

It's an absolute disgrace.

These clubs have traded off the football pyramids for decades in order to be able to become the brands which are allowing them to create this Frankenstein. Now they're destroying it for money.

And's what's this chite about no relegation? It's a closed shop and flies in the face of everything that club football is.

You cannot support this if you're a football fan. If you support this then you're either not a football fan or you're a fukking idiot. It's going to destroy the game as we know it.

I've supported one of these teams all my life. Not anymore. Fuk 'em. They're dead to me.

[aceroa]

It may be so for the Italian and Spanish but I think I speak for 85% of England that we'd never want thezse Clubs back in our Domestic Structure!!

I don't think they will go through with it, if they aren't able to to compete in their domestic leagues as well. They probably wanted to sign up all the founding clubs first, so they can have some leverage in working out a deal with UEFA and their domestic leagues.

brah it fuks everything up from top to bottom

where do those clubs priorities lie in the domestic league when there is no need to qualify for European football

hell they might even field a reserve squad in order to rest for a "bigger" SL fixture a couple of days later

besides these clubs will become even more filthy rich as they are today so competition is 100% ded

this is absolutely a disgrace for football and is purely catering to US and China audiences

not even bad intent in my statement, they just don't understand European football culture

Yeah it's 100% a money grab. All founding clubs were chosen based on their name and revenue instead of merit.

I agree that it would screw over the other clubs in the domestic leagues, and the Super League clubs would become even more rich which would separate them even more from the rest of the clubs.

I think it's very unlikely that it will happen, but if even if it does happen I doubt the Super League will last very long. I gotta admit tho I would probably watch it if it does happen.

[TappingTheZen]

I'm definitely against it, it feels like it will suck the soul out of football. Having teams that can never be relegated is beyond retarded too.

However, UEFA can not be completely absolved, they're self interested with money too and the clubs raised their concerns, so it's difficult to pass blame to anyone specifically, it's just a bunch of rich people fighting over money. Nothing to do with football.

I also think it's difficult for American football fans to grasp why Europeans are so upset with the format, it's something that's hard to articulate

As a lifetime Liverpool supporter i'm quite appalled

Rumours are that Schalke have received an invite.

They are fighting relegation and have won twice this season.

Bloody joke

I think this would be difficult due to the 50+1 rule though because they can't move to the superleague without the fans support like English clubs, i imagine this is a large part of why the big German teams didn't sign up.

[JStrez]

Absolutely terrible for soccer honestly. This is an Americanization of Soccer in Europe. In America, we merged leagues and created super leagues which ended up becoming MLB, NFL, NHL, and NBA. Now Soccer is going to be doing the same thing, and it's not going to work the same. We're not talking about two leagues in the same country, this is multiple countries involved that would be creating a privatized league that would be heavily incentivized. Domestic football would cease to exist in La Liga, Serie A, and the EPL, with others pending. What you're going to have now is 20 teams, taking in a majority of the money available in Soccer, and they will now be able to buy any player outright with this new money. How can you hold a squad like Chelsea against Leicester City when Chelsea is pulling hundreds of millions of dollars more than them, buying talent, and then slapping the rest of the Premier League? There's no incentive for anyone to even try to play in the EPL, La Liga, or Serie A when the best teams aren't going to be in it, and if they are it's the same result every year. No major player is going to want to play for a Non ESL team, and what you'll have eventually is like an all star game every time. There's no incentive for anyone else to play hard to make it in, and there's no penalty for sucking azz. You'll see people activating release clauses like Neymar left and right. How do you financially regulate the two different teams when one is making hundreds of millions of dollars extra in a season? FFP Rules out the fukkin window bro.

I know it's not overly popular here in America like it is in Europe, but it is the most watched sport and most popular sport in the entire world. In Europe, everyone, I mean almost everyone watches Soccer and follows it unlike sports here in America. I thought the Champions League was fun because it randomly pits the best teams from each respective league against each other, and that was fun. But to watch top flight teams play each other all the time? That would get pretty stale and boring if you ask me. This ruins the ethos and point of soccer, which is that anyone can play and watch. But by creating this league it will ruin soccer as we know it.

What's going to follow is a huge lawsuit to prevent FIFA and UEFA from banning players from participating in Champions League, World Cup, etc. Then too if players get banned from being in the World Cup, they should be allowed to opt out of their team and have their contract dropped. Like I can't see any respectable soccer player accepting the fact they can't play in the World Cup, seems like a load of crap to me. And as always with these additional leagues, one always falls and with the structure and longevity already in place, I can't see the ESL surviving. If no one watches or goes to the games, it will become useless. They're banking on people coming out in droves and then also people watching on TV as the broadcasting rights will be extremely lucrative. I don't think people who don't follow soccer how lucrative it is. It easily makes the most money and at the same time is the most corrupt organization in the entire fukking world, ded fkn srs.

Edit: Also this is fukkin bullchit bro. You have these super teams knocked out by random ass teams around the world in Champions League, and now they want a special league? GTFO.

[ChunkBuster]

The irony is that if the clubs are banned by EUFA then they would create their own Super league.

Lmfao @ tiny totts (Tottenham) getting an invite. The only thing they could bring to the table is dust from their unused trophy cabinet.

Money talks for clubs, players and even fans.

[theluckylad]

Footy is my lifelong passion, they put a massive dent in that passion with the introduction of VAR, the lack of fans this season has added to the dent and now this has just solidified it for me, my passion for the game is dying. It had a great 23 year run but it’s over

[TokenV]

Footy is my lifelong passion, they put a massive dent in that passion with the introduction of VAR, the lack of fans this season has added to the dent and now this has just solidified it for me, my passion for the game is dying. It had a great 23 year run but it’s over

yeah brah it's incomprehensible how a handfull of fuks can ruin a game that has history for 100+ years for an entire nation

I'm lucky enough to not be directly affected by it since my team is a mediocre team in Belgium lol

but there are talks about starting a BeNeLeague putting the "best" from Belgium and Holland together, if this were to go through it's comparable with what these 6 WHORE teams are trying to pull in your country

[hardestgainer]

Gary Neville went in dry on them all, good for him.

[DigDeeper1]

TUNE IN to Fox Sports at 3am GMT to watch The London Gunners VS The Manchester Red Devils, hosted in Pyongyang at the North Korean national stadium.

[VTheKing]

lol @ private equity and oil magnates trying to franchise European competition.

[Sezzors]

Arsenal drew against Fulham who are in a relegation battle and they want to be in a super league LOL. Can’t believe these billionaires owners are actually suggesting this, but I guess money talks since the clubs in the super league will be getting 300mil+ from the league alone annually...VAR kind of ruined football, this will destroy it tbh

[TheBrentmeister]

it's pretty simple, anyone that isn't disgusted by this is not a football fan

100% ded srs

if you even consider this being a remotely good idea gtfo, you don't understand football cuture

again, 100% ded srs

100% this. Any true football fan is disgusted with the idea.

[MatthewChav]

yeah brah it's incomprehensible how a handfull of fuks can ruin a game that has history for 100+ years for an entire nation

This and the greed are the 2 worst things here, more so ripping its soul out than the money being obsene in a way. They are just destroying History by ripping City's a-part this way. They may as well have a Billboard up to say "we will pay anything"

[JoocyMane13]

This is just the worst news ever and all i can say is Expel all of them from the Prem Asap - though it's tempting to say they'd be no loss (they are for smaller clubs like Bournemouth, Brighton, Watford, West Brom who dream of beating these Big 6!!

Also as well it is ripping the heart of communities etc and Manchester wont represent Manchester anymore - but if they wanna go and do it PLEZASE DO!! An I hope they all fail and have to re-start at Level 8/9 in the English Pyramid - if they dare even be admitted or beg by liking the Authorties feet to return (which on both sides I hope NOT)!!

the king has spoken!

who do you back matty?! fuk this super league yeh?!

[Barteh]

yeah brah it's incomprehensible how a handfull of fuks can ruin a game that has history for 100+ years for an entire nation

I'm lucky enough to not be directly affected by it since my team is a mediocre team in Belgium lol

but there are talks about starting a BeNeLeague putting the "best" from Belgium and Holland together, if this were to go through it's comparable with what these 6 WHORE teams are trying to pull in your country

Meh the big difference is the lack of a fair relegation and promotion system. If they made the Beneliga with 9 teams from each country and then have the bottom two of each country relegate each year it's not even comparable to this closed off super league idea. Although I guess it does still hurt the smaller teams from each country, the potential to succeed is there. Smaller teams in the PL wouldn't even get a chance to ever compete is this superleage bs with this 15 founder team bs.

Personally I wouldn't mind setting up some European league system. Where you'd have a superleague kinda idea with 20 teams but then also a 2nd, 3rd and maybe 4th division with relegation and promotion. You do have to figure out how the relegation and promotion would work between the bottom European league and the highest national leagues after that. But I can totally see why people would be opposed to an idea like this as well. It may hurt national traditional but in theory it could be fair and more entertaining.