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    Exclamation Finasteride maker 'Merck' once lied about sides of drug that DOUBLED heart disease

    Oh ****.

    "Only 1% of men experience side effects on Finasteride doe!"

    Stay safe Misc-bros.

    https://www.newscientist.com/article...aths-cover-up/

    It is perhaps the biggest drug scandal of recent years. Before Merck withdrew Vioxx in 2004, the popular painkiller was linked to heart attacks in tens of thousands of people. Now researchers have alleged that Merck knew of the dangers years earlier, but tweaked statistics and hid data so that regulators remained in the dark.

    Vioxx was a blockbuster drug for Merck in the 5 years it was on the market, generating billions of dollars in revenue. After it was linked to heart attacks and strokes, the firm pulled its product, and earlier this year Merck agreed to provide almost US$5 billion in compensation to those claiming to have been harmed.

    But an analysis of documents released during the litigation process that led to that settlement, carried out by Richard Kronmal, a statistician at the University of Washington, Seattle, who acted as an expert witness in the Merck lawsuits, suggests that company scientists were aware of the problems well before 2004.
    E-Mails Suggest Merck Knew Vioxx's Dangers at Early Stage

    https://www.wsj.com/articles/SB109926864290160719

    When Merck & Co. pulled its big-selling painkiller Vioxx off the market in September, Chief Executive Raymond Gilmartin said the company was "really putting patient safety first." He said the study findings prompting the withdrawal, which tied Vioxx to heart-attack and stroke risk, were "unexpected."

    But internal Merck e-mails and marketing materials as well as interviews with outside scientists show that the company fought forcefully for years to keep safety concerns from destroying the drug's commercial prospects.

    Merck's first worry, in the mid-to-late 1990s, was that its drug would show greater heart risk than cheaper painkillers that were harsh on the stomach but were believed to reduce the risk of heart attacks. Several company officials discussed in e-mails how to design a study that would minimize the unflattering comparison, even while admitting to themselves that it would be difficult to conceal.

    By 2000, one e-mail suggests Merck recognized that Vioxx didn't merely lack the protective features of old painkillers but that something about the drug itself was linked to an increased heart risk.
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    Miscers won't take the vaccine but they will take this pill that chemically castrates them permanently.
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    Originally Posted by DavidEaslea View Post
    Miscers won't take the vaccine but they will take this pill that chemically castrates them permanently.
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    Originally Posted by HateThisForYou View Post
    lol im DED

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    They admit now the sexual sides occur in more than 1
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    The CEO of Merck once said, I want my drugs to be like Wrigleys chewing gum, I want everybody taking them. So what he did was to pay huge amounts of money for a scientific study that would significantly lower the blood pressure range that would be considered "high blood pressure". Meaning that one day, you could walk into the doctors office and be considered healthy, and the next, you would need blood pressure medications for life, which is essentially an annuity for them. But, "trust the science" because you're better believe that "doctors" are infallible, pure at heart, and never ever would prescribe something that would hurt you.......like opioids. Money never ever comes into medical decision making. Pshhhh.
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    Originally Posted by DavidEaslea View Post
    Miscers won't take the vaccine but they will take this pill that chemically castrates them permanently.

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    I take Fin 3x/week. id rather be castrated then lose my hair tbh.
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    Originally Posted by KevC View Post
    I take Fin 3x/week. id rather be castrated then lose my hair tbh.
    I respect your honesty.
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    Why would anyone trust big pharma? They get rich off selling you a treatment not a cure. They’ve also knowingly sold products that have killed millions (opioids among others) and paid out billions in malpractice fines
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    Thanks, bro. Always looking out for my health while I am losing hair at the same time

    It's a double edged sword
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    Originally Posted by Celsus View Post
    Thanks, bro. Always looking out for my health while I am losing hair at the same time

    It's a double edged sword
    No problem.
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    Originally Posted by Celsus View Post
    Thanks, bro. Always looking out for my health while I am losing hair at the same time

    It's a double edged sword
    Hair transplant without finasteride crew. Also doing PRP and a laser cap. Zero side effects with any of those three. Except for your wallet.
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    bald people seen as less attractive, dirty and less likely to get a job, study finds https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencet...udy-finds.html
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    Originally Posted by rootcon View Post
    bald people seen as less attractive, dirty and less likely to get a job, study finds https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencet...udy-finds.html
    I don't see your point?

    Not being bald thanks to good genetics + no need to use hormone blocking drugs > balding due to bad genetics + having to use hormone blocking drugs
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    im taking dutasteride, finasteride is too weak for me

    still get erections when i think about some hot sloot
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    Originally Posted by andrew28 View Post
    Hair transplant without finasteride crew. Also doing PRP and a laser cap. Zero side effects with any of those three. Except for your wallet.
    Lmao losing your money now and you’re gonna lose your hair in a couple years with those bs treatments
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    Originally Posted by rootcon View Post
    bald people seen as less attractive, dirty and less likely to get a job, study finds https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencet...udy-finds.html
    ****ing brutal man.
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    Originally Posted by Sterilite View Post
    im taking dutasteride, finasteride is too weak for me

    still get erections when i think about some hot sloot
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    Originally Posted by andrew28 View Post
    Hair transplant without finasteride crew. Also doing PRP and a laser cap. Zero side effects with any of those three. Except for your wallet.
    Going to try dermapen soon to see if it helps a few percent to halt the process. Hair transplant will probably happen in mid or late 30s for me. Luckly, it's just the hairline receding and not the crown. If it was the crown as well, I'd probably bend over for the Fin.

    Problem with hair transplant is that my hair on the back is way, way darker than front. You will notice if they use hair from back of my head for sure.
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    Originally Posted by Sterilite View Post
    im taking dutasteride, finasteride is too weak for me

    still get erections when i think about some hot sloot
    Lots of people say trt supplementation makes them rock solid.

    Derek from mpmd said he was 100% with 2000ng/dl and dutasteride. He said test probably hits androgenic receptors at least 1/6 as much as DHT, probably more like 1/4 or higher.

    Replacing the natural 50ng/dl or so of DHT with another 300 of testosterone could cover most of the difference. It might also mess up the hair protection.
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    How come since having high DHT can cause or aid in hairloss on men, there are tons of men who smokes cigarettes since young age, yet still haven't lost a single hair on their head in their 30s and 40s?

    I have 1 cousin and 1 friend, both smoked since teen years, and they a female-locked hairline, with so much dense hair on their head, it's crazy. My uncle as well, and he is almost 70. Doesnt even have gray hair. Smoker all his life as well as drinker

    They all have 3 things in common: Little facial hair/can't grow a full beard.
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