Biden just came out to say that he fully supports Ukraine and that will defend them agaisnt Russia.
LOL at americans always joining wars they have no business being in
Russia gives no fuks and is still moving tanks to the border
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04-01-2021, 12:39 PM #1
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I don't think Russia even wants Ukraine. They already took the iron and coal areas. And took that mountain chokepoint in Northern Crimea. What Russia wants is the west to accept their annexation.
The fault is on the Ukrainians for not attacking. It's been revealed Poroshenko was going to send fighter jets to bomb Moscow but Obama talked him down. While Ukraine's military is obviously not the same size of Russia.
The difference is huge parts of the Russian military already tied down in Chechnya, border duties in Central Asia, the Baltic and Siberia. So Ukraine might have 6,000 tanks (of which 100% could be sent to fight Russia) but Russia can only send 50% to 80% of their 12,000 tanks to Ukraine. Russia can't easily beat Ukraine if Ukraine somehow has the same morale as them. Believe it or not but Ukraine is still Europe's #4 or #5 military. But in practice Ukraine military's morale is super low due to the huge amount of Russophiles in it (have they been purged yet? Who knows!).
Russia outnumbered Georgians 7:1 in that war with Georgia but still took 12 days to "win" and that was without besieging any major Georgian city. If Russia and Ukraine fought a proper war (no nukes) it would be 1:1 or 1:2 because of Russia's military having to stay in other theaters like Chechnya, Baltic, etc.Last edited by DoYouEvenNEM; 04-01-2021 at 12:51 PM.
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04-01-2021, 12:57 PM #6
You used the right verb.
I think historically those eastern parts felled under the influence of the Cossack Hetmanate, which was the prototypical Ukraine (current Ukraine anthem cites the Hetmanate multiple times, uses the word Sich, which comes from the Hetmanate, to refer to their parliament, the military uses Cossack terms, etc).
But you know this is a world where might is right. Russia also colonizes and took over Tatar and Asian lands. Russia is actually the world's largest colonial power. The reason they didn't lose their Empire was because it was physically connected to them.
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04-01-2021, 12:57 PM #7
This falls right into China's gameplan. They've been waiting to steal back territory at the China/Russian border for a while now and all it would take is a moment of distraction for Putin. I can't see the year ending without Xi gaining a few Russian border towns or gaining a few new islands in the South China Seas. Hold on to your horses boyos, the revenge of the Changs is starting.
-SF Gigantes y SF 49ers-
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04-01-2021, 12:59 PM #8
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04-01-2021, 12:59 PM #9
Ukraine 6,000 tanks. Russia 12,000 tanks.
But Russia also has to guard the Finnish border, the Estonian / Latvian border, Central Asian SSRs, Siberia border (China border), etc.
The situation is phucking grim for Russia. Remember their GDP is smaller than Canada. Can you imagine Canada having to defend itself on 5 theaters? Germany couldn't even handle 3 in WW2.
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I think if Hilary won there would had been a war against Iran.
Remember it took like 5 weeks or something for George Bush to declare "victory" in Iraq. That's despite Iraqi soldiers having low morale, monkey model weapons and being a flat desert country and USA surrounding them on all sides.
Probably would had taken 2 years to reach Tehran.
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This may end up being true but is still yet to be seen. Imo it was Obama due to how poorly he treated race relations and in a large part caused what we are seeing manifest today. If we were going to have a black president it needed to be the one without a chip on their shoulder over things nobody alive today experienced.This body holding me, be my reminder here that I am not alone.
Makes me feel eternal, all this Pain is an Illusion.
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