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    5hr conversation w/ my Uncle today on the shtshow America's bout to see

    $15/hr min wage.. Inflation Out the ASS.. everything you buy is going to be more expensive (already is, before all the small businesses / corporations that arent paying that increase their wages)
    not only consumer products.. but fcking taxes.

    What happens when consumer prices go up? Welfare benefits will have to increase. SNAP benefits will have to increase. Subsidized housing will increase.
    More illegals coming in? They're getting benefits too.

    Who's paying for all this? The working class. AKA YOU FUKS
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    Doesn't stop there. When all those government programs are getting more funding, Government employees are going to get increase in wages as well. Who pays for the government employee raises? YOU FUKS

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    Cancel Student Debt? How are schools going to get their money? Is costs of tuition going to go up? Does that mean education spending by government will go up? Who's paying for that? YOU FUKS

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    Paris Agreement? The US and many EU countries are very clean. Compare to countries like India, where 90% of their cars are 30+ years old and have poor emissions ratings.. The US is paying for other countries environmental impact. and by the US, I mean YOU FUKs.


    Social Security and Welfare, along with all these retarded policies, is going to fck us all in the ass, cause im sure our 3% merit increase wont fcking cover al these jacked up expenses and taxes.






    when I say YOU FUKS. I mean US. We're all Fuq'd
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    Actually that’s been debunked
    Entire NYPD should go on strike. You'll see then how quickly the mayor changes his tone.

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    Entire NYPD should go on strike. You'll see then how quickly the mayor changes his tone.
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    Unfortunately our resident liberals all skipped Economics 101 class in middle school, so they still think that money grow on the trees and poofed by a magic tooth fairy.
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    Originally Posted by TrueTruth View Post
    Unfortunately our resident liberals all skipped Economics 101 class in middle school, so they still think that money grow on the trees and poofed by a magic tooth fairy.
    the funny thing is he went into this. basic economics 101.
    Supply and Demand chart, Money Supply Chart. Fed Printer Go Brrr. & Min Wage & CPI lmao.

    The Left owns the education system, and you wonder why Economics is NOT part of high school education. I majored in Econ, and all of my classes, and even my EC-100 level classes only had 15-20 people. You wonder fcking why no one understands why all these policies are retarded.



    & Wall Street doesnt get affected. They have tax shelters.
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    Who cares about inflation when everything is in the stock market.

    We need a minimum wage increase it used to be higher 40 years ago.
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    Originally Posted by ltsOgre View Post
    Who cares about inflation when everything is in the stock market.

    We need a minimum wage increase it used to be higher 40 years ago.
    Trust me, if there was a minimum wage increase and Corporations accepted it as a fair way to improve people's lives, and continued their operations without trying to cut down costs to offset those higher wages.. then I fully support it. But it's not the case.

    Corporations like Walmart and McDonalds make Billions in Profit, they can afford to pay more to their employees WITHOUT raising prices.. but will they? No. It's fcked
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    Fellow MA bruh here, can already feel the 13.25 min wage here. BRB groceries are more expensive, takeout is more expensive, gas gong up, etc. Stuffs about to get brutal guys, hold tight.
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    Did you talk about the trillions that were injected into the economy/wall street? Any concerns there or was the convo solely focused on giving individuals $?
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    Originally Posted by Latinowarrior3 View Post
    Did you talk about the trillions that were injected into the economy/wall street? Any concerns there or was the convo solely focused on giving individuals $?
    that's not how it worked.
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    that's not how it worked.
    Ok, weird. That would be a topic for me and my uncle
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    Fellow MA bruh here, can already feel the 13.25 min wage here. BRB groceries are more expensive, takeout is more expensive, gas gong up, etc. Stuffs about to get brutal guys, hold tight.

    I'm in Colorado now but all my boys are in Mass.. Gov. Baker lifted the Lockdown restrictions conveniently right after Biden wins. I know Mass is heavy liberal, but wow a lot of them need a wake up call. Idk where you're from but in Worcester small businesses can never stay in business (preCovid) ... I cant imagine any of those small businesses can afford to pay people $15 an hour without jacking prices up 15%
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    people who support higher taxes are the same ones who dont pay any considerable amount in them
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    Originally Posted by ltsOgre View Post
    Who cares about inflation when everything is in the stock market.

    We need a minimum wage increase it used to be higher 40 years ago.
    This retard is a communist. This is what happens when you never have a labor shortage you spastic

    The reason why wages have been suppressed for 40 years is because the country has been flooded with immigrants, women abandoned the home for the workforce and they do not start businesses employing skilled people to the degree men do, and we shipped our industry offshore to third world slave labor camps trying to build the world.

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    people who support higher taxes are the same ones who dont pay any considerable amount in them
    yup. the rich people have tax shelter accounts, businesses that they reinvest all profits in and pay themselves a lower salary tax bracket
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    Originally Posted by Lb54TG View Post
    I'm in Colorado now but all my boys are in Mass.. Gov. Baker lifted the Lockdown restrictions conveniently right after Biden wins. I know Mass is heavy liberal, but wow a lot of them need a wake up call. Idk where you're from but in Worcester small businesses can never stay in business (preCovid) ... I cant imagine any of those small businesses can afford to pay people $15 an hour without jacking prices up 15%
    Yup I live in worcester. I can't imagine many of these businesses, especially on the park Ave strip will be able to stay open. Hell, I know a bunch of bars that have remained closed with no plans of reopening.
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    Cancel Student Debt? How are schools going to get their money? Is costs of tuition going to go up? Does that mean education spending by government will go up? Who's paying for that? YOU FUKS
    apparently you stupidly think that if student debt is cancelled schools wont get their money

    just fking lol at thinking the schools themselves are issuing student loans you gigantic moron

    spoken like someone who's really pretty dumb irl and definitely never went to college or learned about what loans are and how they work

    and then gets mad about it!

    starts calling people fuks about it!

    no wonder the rest of the world sees you guys as the worlds dumbest people
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    Originally Posted by sandaltan View Post
    apparently you stupidly think that if student debt is cancelled schools wont get their money

    just fking lol at thinking the schools themselves are issuing student loans you gigantic moron

    spoken like someone who's really pretty dumb irl and definitely never went to college or learned about what loans are and how they work

    and then gets mad about it!

    starts calling people fuks about it!

    no wonder the rest of the world sees you guys as the worlds dumbest people
    I never said they issue student loans. How do schools get paid? By student loans. Is a bank going to give a personal loan to a student for school?

    They go through sallie mae which is a bank, or the government aid. If govt is canceling student debt, how do the banks and schools get their money?

    The government pays them, and they’re going to pay the colleges.. so how do they recoup that money? Taxes.
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    Originally Posted by Lb54TG View Post
    $15/hr min wage.. Inflation Out the ASS.. everything you buy is going to be more expensive (already is, before all the small businesses / corporations that arent paying that increase their wages)
    not only consumer products.. but fcking taxes.

    What happens when consumer prices go up? Welfare benefits will have to increase. SNAP benefits will have to increase. Subsidized housing will increase.
    More illegals coming in? They're getting benefits too.

    Who's paying for all this? The working class. AKA YOU FUKS
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    Doesn't stop there. When all those government programs are getting more funding, Government employees are going to get increase in wages as well. Who pays for the government employee raises? YOU FUKS

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    Cancel Student Debt? How are schools going to get their money? Is costs of tuition going to go up? Does that mean education spending by government will go up? Who's paying for that? YOU FUKS

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    Paris Agreement? The US and many EU countries are very clean. Compare to countries like India, where 90% of their cars are 30+ years old and have poor emissions ratings.. The US is paying for other countries environmental impact. and by the US, I mean YOU FUKs.


    Social Security and Welfare, along with all these retarded policies, is going to fck us all in the ass, cause im sure our 3% merit increase wont fcking cover al these jacked up expenses and taxes.






    when I say YOU FUKS. I mean US. We're all Fuq'd
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    Originally Posted by Lb54TG View Post
    I never said they issue student loans. How do schools get paid? By student loans. Is a bank going to give a personal loan to a student for school?

    They go through sallie mae which is a bank, or the government aid. If govt is canceling student debt, how do the banks and schools get their money?

    The government pays them, and they’re going to pay the colleges.. so how do they recoup that money? Taxes.
    no

    the government pays the borrower (the student), or the school directly on behalf of the student-borrower. the school is already paid bro, regardless of whether or not the debt to the government is cancelled / forgiven

    the federal government is issuing student loans and charging 7% interest on them just lol
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    Originally Posted by Lb54TG View Post
    $15/hr min wage.. Inflation Out the ASS.. everything you buy is going to be more expensive (already is, before all the small businesses / corporations that arent paying that increase their wages)
    not only consumer products.. but fcking taxes.

    What happens when consumer prices go up? Welfare benefits will have to increase. SNAP benefits will have to increase. Subsidized housing will increase.
    More illegals coming in? They're getting benefits too.
    Thats how inflation works. That said, I don't know what hell hole you are living in but in my area starting jobs start at about $20.00 per hour with no experience required. I'm sure that's the case in most of the country. Minimum wage has always increased at a rate where it doesn't impact most of the country. The only ones that really feel it are in tiny little places in mid America. But a few million people in rural Ohio that get a bump aren't going to have a noticeable effect on the countries inflation rate at large.

    Who's paying for all this? The working class. AKA YOU FUKS
    Of course. Thats an obvious statement. Thats who pays the taxes. People that work and also some very rich people who don't work I guess pay taxes too. But poor people that don't work don't pay taxes.

    The bottom 50% only pay 3% of the taxes. In fact that top 10% pays 70% of the taxes and the top 1% pays 30% of those. Not sure who you consider "working class." But in general if you don't work. You don't make income and you don't pay taxes.

    So its 1% = 30%.

    2-10% 40%

    11%-50% = 27%

    51%-100% = 3%



    Doesn't stop there. When all those government programs are getting more funding, Government employees are going to get increase in wages as well. Who pays for the government employee raises? YOU FUKS
    LOL no. Country pays its employees with Debt. Tax payers can't even cover all the entitlements the government are giving out. I would say future generations will pay it. But thats a joke. The way our current debt is growing no one will pay it. Eventually the government will be forced to hyper inflate our currency to pay our obligations. As of now if we took all our money to pay our debt and fired everyone and paid no entitlements it would take a decade to pay off our debt and that will never happen.


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    Cancel Student Debt? How are schools going to get their money? Is costs of tuition going to go up? Does that mean education spending by government will go up? Who's paying for that? YOU FUKS
    Thats not how it works. The colleges get paid at the time you enroll. The government issues grants (free money) or loans (money that likely won't be repaid ever). The government funds this from government debt. And this debt is never likely going to be repaid short of the government hyper inflating the currency at some point in the future.

    Paris Agreement? The US and many EU countries are very clean. Compare to countries like India, where 90% of their cars are 30+ years old and have poor emissions ratings.. The US is paying for other countries environmental impact. and by the US, I mean YOU FUKs.
    Hard to get countries like China to clean up if we don't do it first. After all we have been polluting like crazy for years. That said, its pretty much all talk anyway. By the time any actual changes about go in effect I'm confident a republican will be back in the office of the president. Biden won't be a two termer and Kamala won't win an election in 24. So it will be some republican.




    Social Security and Welfare, along with all these retarded policies, is going to fck us all in the ass, cause im sure our 3% merit increase wont fcking cover al these jacked up expenses and taxes.
    These programs are in place and aren't going away. Trump wasn't getting rid of them either. In the future entitlements are going to be even larger as society starts replacing people's jobs with robots anyway. So they will never go away. Might as well get used to it.



    when I say YOU FUKS. I mean US. We're all Fuq'd
    Yep. But that is not new.

    That happened long ago starting with Bush 2. The last time we really had a shot of avoiding this debt hell we have got ourselves into was during his term. Clinton was the last president with a balanced budget and even then it was going to be hard to pay down the debt.

    Since then, Obama, Trump, and now biden all are not going to even try to balance the budget. Frankly our debt interest at this point probably makes it impossible to do that without sending our economy into a crushing recession. Another term of trump wasn't going to be any different in that regard.
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    Originally Posted by ltsOgre View Post
    Who cares about inflation when everything is in the stock market.

    We need a minimum wage increase it used to be higher 40 years ago.
    The average small business has been ravaged by Covid and is faced with the prospect of shutting down. Forcing them to pay their high school aged workforce 15 an hour for unskilled labor makes 0 sense.

    It will lead to fewer employees or fewer employers... think about it.
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    Originally Posted by Lb54TG View Post
    yup. the rich people have tax shelter accounts, businesses that they reinvest all profits in and pay themselves a lower salary tax bracket
    The wealthy democrat elite are all on tax exempt status.
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    Originally Posted by Lb54TG View Post
    Trust me, if there was a minimum wage increase and Corporations accepted it as a fair way to improve people's lives, and continued their operations without trying to cut down costs to offset those higher wages.. then I fully support it. But it's not the case.

    Corporations like Walmart and McDonalds make Billions in Profit, they can afford to pay more to their employees WITHOUT raising prices.. but will they? No. It's fcked
    Labor falls under supply and demand just like everything else. What did you think was going to happen when they doubled the work force via feminism and then imported millions of cheap foreign labor to boot?

    Kind of funny how liberals love illegal immigration and then bitch about living wages...
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    Originally Posted by DumpsterFire View Post
    Fellow MA bruh here, can already feel the 13.25 min wage here. BRB groceries are more expensive, takeout is more expensive, gas gong up, etc. Stuffs about to get brutal guys, hold tight.
    from mass as well....

    Agreed..

    rather then see a reduction in their salary due to expenses involved with paying hjgher wages...
    business owners either raise their prices, or they cut down their work force...
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    So the thing to keep in mind is this affects all wages under 15. So that's potentially A LOT of jobs.

    It will be interesting to see where the country ends up from an income standpoint after the dust settles because yes some wages will go up but it's virtually guaranteed that unemployment will go up as well and people will lose their jobs.
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    When does the Biden EO 15 min wage go into effect? Does he even have the authority to do it unilaterally?
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    Originally Posted by ltsOgre View Post
    Who cares about inflation when everything is in the stock market.

    We need a minimum wage increase it used to be higher 40 years ago.
    All of us, because Yellen wants to tax UNREALIZED capital gains. Values goes up? You pay. Value goes down? Honk honk, too bad.
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