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    Originally Posted by 5x10 View Post
    what mechanism were the vaccines created after?
    Not the pseudo-spike that made lab hamsters sick.
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    Not the pseudo-spike that made lab hamsters sick.
    come on, let me hear you say it, lol
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    Originally Posted by terrorgunt View Post
    Did you miss this part you mongoloid queer?

    "limits its ability to cause damage."

    LIMITS does not = DOES NOT.

    Fukkin idiot.
    Thank you for acknowledging that A research team lead by Dr. Barney Graham from the Vaccine Research Center at the NIH National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases created an engineered form of the spike protein that is unable to make the shape change required to effectively bind to cells (5). The Pfizer/BioNTech, Moderna, Novavax, and Johnson & Johnson vaccines all use this inactivated spike protein, which means any spike protein that is produced by the vaccine is not able to be activated. This safety-switch limits the ability of the spike protein to bind ACE2 and limits its ability to cause damage."
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    Currently at the end of day 2 of this. Symptoms started yesterday morning, just felt like something was off. As the day goes on I start to develop full body aches and low grade fever. Didn't sleep too much last night due to being hot and tossing/turning. 2nd day is mostly the same symptoms, but it comes in waves. Sometimes it feels better then it goes back to being bad. One new symptom I did have today was chest pressure for 20 minutes then went away.

    I'm signing up for the covid-out study where they send you meds like ivermectin, fluvoxamine, and you track your progress.

    Hope those of you are sick are doing well. I've absolutely had symptoms like this before in the past, it just still sucks.
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    Originally Posted by sloppyjoe1 View Post
    Currently at the end of day 2 of this. Symptoms started yesterday morning, just felt like something was off. As the day goes on I start to develop full body aches and low grade fever. Didn't sleep too much last night due to being hot and tossing/turning. 2nd day is mostly the same symptoms, but it comes in waves. Sometimes it feels better then it goes back to being bad. One new symptom I did have today was chest pressure for 20 minutes then went away.

    I'm signing up for the covid-out study where they send you meds like ivermectin, fluvoxamine, and you track your progress.

    Hope those of you are sick are doing well. I've absolutely had symptoms like this before in the past, it just still sucks.

    where do you sign up for the covid-out study? i would love to try it out if i ever contract it.
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    Originally Posted by sloppyjoe1 View Post
    Currently at the end of day 2 of this. Symptoms started yesterday morning, just felt like something was off. As the day goes on I start to develop full body aches and low grade fever. Didn't sleep too much last night due to being hot and tossing/turning. 2nd day is mostly the same symptoms, but it comes in waves. Sometimes it feels better then it goes back to being bad. One new symptom I did have today was chest pressure for 20 minutes then went away.

    I'm signing up for the covid-out study where they send you meds like ivermectin, fluvoxamine, and you track your progress.

    Hope those of you are sick are doing well. I've absolutely had symptoms like this before in the past, it just still sucks.
    dnt they test experimental drugs on you to see what works and what doesnt? and there might be side effects that might cause long lasting damage?
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    Started getting sick August 4th. had some pretty gnarly fever spikes, a really sore throat, and my body feels like i was hit by a bus. the worst part ? a cough that will not go away. it's been almost a month and i still have a pretty violent cough. now and again ill spike a very small fever and the body pain still lingers but the cough, man. im ****ing over it.
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    Originally Posted by rocketfish View Post
    where do you sign up for the covid-out study? i would love to try it out if i ever contract it.
    https://www.parsemus.org/covidclinic/uminn-multi/

    Originally Posted by MEDITATE View Post
    dnt they test experimental drugs on you to see what works and what doesnt? and there might be side effects that might cause long lasting damage?
    Ivermectin & fluvoxamine are not experimental drugs. People have been taking them for decades. Funny how people think those drugs are experimental but take the vaccine?
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    I had a recruiter go cold on me two days ago because she asked me if I was vaccinated and I told her I didn't take the vaccine. Kinda salty about this too since this job offered a security clearance, which is an important step for me.
    She didn't seem to care about me promising to take PCR tests every 3 days and wear a mask too.
    Man. How do I get hired without this BS. I'm gonna try preemptively telling the next one that calls that I'm unvaxxed and if that'd be a problem, but I dunno if it'll help though.

    Fuk. I'm considering becoming a tradie and getting paid in cash until this chit blows over. At least I'll learn some DIY skills...


    And I don't think I'll get the vaccine, because I was overweight in middle school and drank way too much redbulls, I gave myself heart and breathing problems already. Sometimes I get these sharp chest pains when I try to breathe. This is unrelated to covid and I don't want to risk having the side effects make it worse...
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    Originally Posted by Thai_Clinch View Post
    Started getting sick August 4th. had some pretty gnarly fever spikes, a really sore throat, and my body feels like i was hit by a bus. the worst part ? a cough that will not go away. it's been almost a month and i still have a pretty violent cough. now and again ill spike a very small fever and the body pain still lingers but the cough, man. im ****ing over it.
    Sorry to hear man. I'd be so miserable with symptoms like that so prolonged.

    You vaxxed or unvaxxed?


    Originally Posted by PermaNoob View Post
    I had a recruiter go cold on me two days ago because she asked me if I was vaccinated and I told her I didn't take the vaccine. Kinda salty about this too since this job offered a security clearance, which is an important step for me.
    She didn't seem to care about me promising to take PCR tests every 3 days and wear a mask too.
    Man. How do I get hired without this BS. I'm gonna try preemptively telling the next one that calls that I'm unvaxxed and if that'd be a problem, but I dunno if it'll help though.

    Fuk. I'm considering becoming a tradie and getting paid in cash until this chit blows over. At least I'll learn some DIY skills...


    And I don't think I'll get the vaccine, because I was overweight in middle school and drank way too much redbulls, I gave myself heart and breathing problems already. Sometimes I get these sharp chest pains when I try to breathe. This is unrelated to covid and I don't want to risk having the side effects make it worse...
    My company just announced they will only hire vaxxed moving forward. Many other have as well and more and more will continue to go in this direction unless the disease dissipates. I'd urge everyone who doesn't want to get vaxxed to start thinking about what their options are for self employment.
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    My wife's company says they will ask employees about vaccine status, so they can better plan and coordinate future activities. No mention of different treatment or anything.

    uh-huh, no way they'd ever allow or revoke privileges based on that info. *rolls eyes*

    And the dems want to register guns just so they know how many there are, no way they'd ever require you to turn them in. *molon labe*
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    Considering getting the Astra Zeneca instead of Pfizer. I'm actually booked in for Pfizer but earliest I could get it was October 23rd.. lmao.

    If I go with Astra Zeneca I can get it pretty much by next weekend.

    Might as well get it over with. I was supposed to go to China next year for business but looks like that's not gonna happens because of dis chit. In the tiny chance that it's still on the table I'd definitely have to be double vaccinated to make the trip imo.
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    Eleven of 13 participants showed detectable levels of SARS-CoV-2 protein as early as day 1 after first vaccine injection.
    Authors detected S1 and N in 64% of COVID-19 positive patients, and S1 levels were significantly associated with disease severity
    After the first 100-µg dose, the mRNA-1273 vaccine produced detectable levels of S1 antigen in plasma in 11 participants, and spike antigen was detected in 3 of 13 participants.
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    What were the S1 levels associated with severe illness?
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    Originally Posted by Farley1324 View Post
    What were the S1 levels associated with severe illness?
    dont know, but I was told that these don’t make it to the blood
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    You realize that study confirms vaccines work, right?
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    You realize that study confirms vaccines work, right?
    Of course.

    Well, I do, lol
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    You realize that study confirms vaccines work, right?
    yeah, I’ve never disputed their efficacy , only their safety

    You realize it confirms the proteins are entering the blood stream, right?
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    yeah, I’ve never disputed their efficacy , only their safety

    You realize it confirms the proteins are entering the blood stream, right?

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    yeah, I’ve never disputed their efficacy , only their safety

    You realize it confirms the proteins are entering the blood stream, right?
    You mean the inactive proteins they found in 3/13 participants that were cleared in ~2 weeks, just like we already knew?
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    [img]https://scontent.fybz1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.6435-9/239462884_6010415249031391_5101875331360792316_n.p ng?_nc_cat=1&ccb=1-5&_nc_sid=2d5d41&efg=eyJpIjoidCJ9&_nc_ohc=oHWXczwt 95sAX9JC7sZ&_nc_oc=AQk2XOOsHNL53RVB9NHHElZUAmgbiy-TvHVNJfHDwjwsbMEuHaDm4qS23lLEZenVnVg&_nc_ht=sconte nt.fybz1-1.fna&oh=1264caf9a3757726e3b9988ee641d418&oe=615im g]
    you seem to be avoiding the question

    You understand that spike proteins, from vaccines, get into the bloodstream?
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    Originally Posted by 5x10 View Post
    you seem to be avoiding the question

    You understand that spike proteins, from vaccines, get into the bloodstream?
    You mean the inactive proteins they found in 3/13 participants that were cleared in ~2 weeks, just like we already knew?
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    You mean the inactive proteins they found in 3/13 participants that were cleared in ~2 weeks, just like we already knew?
    No, here’s what you posted
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    "COVID19 vaccines are injected into the deltoid where they are taken up by muscle cells. The vaccine remains largely contained near the site of injection (2). Local muscle cells that take in the vaccine produce the spike protein and place it on the surface of the cell where it is recognized by the immune system. Vaccine that is not taken up by muscle is drained into the local lymph nodes where lymphatic cells absorb the vaccine and similarly make spike protein. The lymphatic cells are responsible for activating T and B cells, which are important steps in generating immunity.

    In order to damage the endothelium of blood vessels, COVID-19 vaccines have to enter the vascular system and infect cells that circulate in the blood. Data collected by the European Medicines Agency shows that no significant amount of vaccine enters the circulation (3). The confinement of the expressed spike protein away from the circulatory system significant prevents it from causing damage to the vascular endothelium."

    "The spike protein attaches SARS-CoV2 to cells through a receptor called ACE2. In order to fully interact, the spike protein must undergo a conformational change (4).

    A research team lead by Dr. Barney Graham from the Vaccine Research Center at the NIH National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases created an engineered form of the spike protein that is unable to make the shape change required to effectively bind to cells (5). The Pfizer/BioNTech, Moderna, Novavax, and Johnson & Johnson vaccines all use this inactivated spike protein, which means any spike protein that is produced by the vaccine is not able to be activated. This safety-switch limits the ability of the spike protein to bind ACE2 and limits its ability to cause damage."
    Hmmm, wonder why people are experiencing blood clots and strokes from the vaccines
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    No, here’s what you posted
    Yeah, looks pretty consistent.

    You seem to still be confusing proteins from live virus vs the inert proteins from vaccines.
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    Originally Posted by J.L.C. View Post
    Yeah, looks pretty consistent.

    You seem to still be confusing proteins from live virus vs the inert proteins from vaccines.
    oh, I see
    The spike proteins enter the blood stream, they just can hurt us
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    From the paper you posted:

    "Here antigens S1 and spike were measured to probe mRNA translation, whereas nucleocapsid antigen served as a negative control (Figures 1A, B, C, Supplementary Table 5). After the first 100-µg dose, the mRNA-1273 vaccine produced detectable levels of S1 antigen in plasma in 11 participants, and spike antigen was detected in 3 of 13 participants. Nucleocapsid antigen was undetectable or at background levels in all participants after both injections, as expected."

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    oh, I see
    The spike proteins enter the blood stream, they just can hurt us
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    you’ll have to excuse me, I was told they were anchored to the injection site as a fail safe as to not enter the blood
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    you’ll have to excuse me, I was told they were anchored to the injection site as a fail safe as to not enter the blood
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    You mean the inactive proteins they found in 3/13 participants that were cleared in ~2 weeks, just like we already knew?
    And there you have it
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