Do you think the Republican Party will win the Presidency again?

[Sweetums6000]

I’ve been saying for a long time that we seem to be heading toward a permanent democratic presidency and a permanent republican senate. Never-ending gridlock

[DukeOfWoodBerry]

I’ve been saying for a long time that we seem to be heading toward a permanent democratic presidency and a permanent republican senate. Never-ending gridlock

All they need is an amnesty to break that and a few more years of immigration and whites dying off in GA.

[Random260]

Immigrant populations are actually rising significantly in certain Midwest areas, especially PA. Philly and it's suburbs keep growing ala NoVa.

Fun fact

Obama PA was 3276363 (2008) and Biden was 3417479 thus grew 141k

Trump Pa was 2970733 (2016) and trump 2020 was 3351976 grew 381k

That's a massive growth for republicans. Again the trend is real.

Michigan

OBAMA (2008) 2867680 Biden (2020) 2795788
TRUMP (2016) 2279543 Trump (2020) 2647403 a net 380k votes

[DukeOfWoodBerry]

Fun fact

Obama PA was 3276363 and Biden was 3417479 thus grew 141k

Trump Pa was 2970733 and trump 2020 was 3351976 grew 381k

That's a massive growth for republicans.

Trump certainly did a great job to win over many of those blue collar whites and turn out new voters. The next GOP candidate needs to do as well or better and hope for Democrat fall off. Philly and its suburbs aren't going away.

[Sweetums6000]

All they need is an amnesty to break that and a few more years of immigration and whites dying off in GA.

The senate has a say in immigration policy though.

And the senate is ridiculously skewed toward smaller states. It’s possible for states with 18% of the population to control 52% of the senate.

If you rank the states by their partisan lean https://worldpopulationreview.com/st...ublican-states you get 26 states that are more republican than Florida.

There are some red states that are going more blue, but there are also some blue states that are going more red. It won’t be impossible for democrats to win the senate but the more partisan we get (and we are getting more partisan) the harder it will be, as more states senate delegations start to match their overall partisan lean. So far democrats have only been making it close by hanging on in a few red states which won’t last much longer.

[DukeOfWoodBerry]

The senate has a say in immigration policy though.

And the senate is ridiculously skewed toward smaller states. It’s possible for states with 18% of the population to control 52% of the senate.

If you rank the states by their partisan lean https://worldpopulationreview.com/st...ublican-states you get 26 states that are more republican than Florida.

There are some red states that are going more blue, but there are also some blue states that are going more red. It won’t be impossible for democrats to win the senate but the more partisan we get (and we are getting more partisan) the harder it will be, as more states senate delegations start to match their overall partisan lean. So far democrats have only been making it close by hanging on in a few red states which won’t last much longer.

Don't count on Rs in the Senate to hold the line on immigration. Many were uncomfortable with Trump changing the dynamic and will be happy to work with Biden on globalization policies.

The source has Arizona and Georgia as R+5. Arizona has two blue Senators and Georgia trending that way. Rs do have a much better chance with the Senate. Democratic politicians aren't stupid though, they're going to start trying to spread out these immigrants more.

[yesnow]

Depends on whether minorities become Republican, imo.

It's not out of the question: 1/3 young African Americans prefer the Republican party. In the Democratic party, Blacks and other minorities are far less likely to support higher taxes and more likely to support a decrease in taxes, including for the wealthy.

What Trump has shown is that this doesn't require becoming open border advocates. He has received more minority support than any other Republican since Eisenhower. What the formula for success in this area is, I'm not sure.

[DukeOfWoodBerry]

Depends on whether minorities become Republican, imo.

It's not out of the question: 1/3 young African Americans prefer the Republican party. In the Democratic party, Blacks and other minorities are far less likely to support higher taxes and more likely to support a decrease in taxes, including for the wealthy.

What Trump has shown is that this doesn't require becoming open border advocates. He has received more minority support than any other Republican since Eisenhower. What the formula for success in this area is, I'm not sure.

He didn't though. Not by percentage at least. Again, moderate gains in percentage were more than canceled out by massive turnout.

Think about it this way: Would you rather lose a demographic of 100 people 20%-80% or would you rather that same group of people increase to 200 and lose them 30%-70%. The first scenario is net -60 voters. The second is net -80 voters.

[DizzySmalls]

He didn't though. Not by percentage at least. Again, moderate gains in percentage were more than canceled out by massive turnout.

Think about it this way: Would you rather lose a demographic of 100 people 20%-80% or would you rather that same group of people increase to 200 and lose them 30%-70%. The first scenario is net -60 voters. The second is net -80 voters.

I mostly agree with your doomer perspective, but to be fair COVID is a one off. Zero chance some of these lazy fuks in the cities actually figure out what day it is, get dressed, and travel to a polling station with proper identification. Mail in voting was a built in massive turnout boost for the left.

[DukeOfWoodBerry]

I mostly agree with your doomer perspective, but to be fair COVID is a one off. Zero chance some of these lazy fuks in the cities actually figure out what day it is, get dressed, and travel to a polling station with proper identification. Mail in voting was a built in massive turnout boost for the left.

The left isn't going to give up mass mail in voting.

[yeshli2nuts]

Of course. Trump could have EASILY won in a landslide if he just had a little bit of foresight and didn't fuk up his campaign by being a complete idiot for the past 6 months. Whether you agree or not with their reasoning, you cannot argue against that he pushed away A LOT of moderate voters simply because of his rhetoric.

[yesnow]

He didn't though. Not by percentage at least. Again, moderate gains in percentage were more than canceled out by massive turnout.

Think about it this way: Would you rather lose a demographic of 100 people 20%-80% or would you rather that same group of people increase to 200 and lose them 30%-70%. The first scenario is net -60 voters. The second is net -80 voters.

He did according to the exit polls. County-level analysis shows the same conclusion.

[LiftBigEatBig]

Romney was terrible. Awkward and cringe. Horrible background too. Obama eviscerated his Bain Capital background and any competent campaign would have done the same. Guy picked Paul Ryan as his running mate, tells you all you need to know.

Biden's communist policies? Guy's transition team is full of wealthy executives and lobbyists. Some of you need better information.

LOL you had me in the first half, then realized you were just another confused socialist.

[DukeOfWoodBerry]

Of course. Trump could have EASILY won in a landslide if he just had a little bit of foresight and didn't fuk up his campaign by being a complete idiot for the past 6 months. Whether you agree or not with their reasoning, you cannot argue against that he pushed away A LOT of moderate voters simply because of his rhetoric.

And that style energized and won over a lot of new voters. It's a double edged sword. I can tell you most these people won't be turning out for Nimrata Haley.

[DukeOfWoodBerry]

He did according to the exit polls. County-level analysis shows the same conclusion.

Trump got 12% of the black vote, 32% Hispanic, 32% Asian. In 04, Bush got 11% black and around 40% Hispanic/Asian.

[iabs]

The people coming from **** hole countries wont vote for a president that will turn their new country in a **** hole

They will more likely vote for a president that keeps open borders so they can bring their entire family over, after that who the fuk cares.

[Leonydus]

its over for the gop they might exist but its in name only, classical conservatives are out numbered thanks to the 1965 immigration act and all the welfare people breeding like cockroaches for generations, they all grew up and are voting democrat now.

[Ashton117]

its over for the gop they might exist but its in name only, classical conservatives are out numbered thanks to the 1965 immigration act and all the welfare people breeding like cockroaches for generations, they all grew up and are voting democrat now.

You realize something else important happened in 1965? The Civil Right Act of 1964 and the Voting Rights Act of 1965 is what finally turned the south from solid blue to red.

Abortion first became a partisan issue in the early 1970s which turned the south to deep red because of all the Evangelicals.

So the south could still be democrat like it was originally.

[z4v4]

it's unlikely. You can have a smooth talking Romney type Republican pick up some of the votes that Trump lost by being abrasive but will that man pick up the blue collar white male in Michigan or Wisconsin? Nope.

Lol @ anyone not a dumbass abrasive moron like Trump = not a Republican.

Yes, no one like Trump will ever be elected again. The country learned its lesson, and the remnants will learn once we regain out standing in the world and move toward peace in our country.

[Ashton117]

Lol @ anyone not a dumbass abrasive moron like Trump = not a Republican.

Yes, no one like Trump will ever be elected again. The country learned its lesson, and the remnants will learn once we regain out standing in the world and move toward peace in our country.

Idk I think Trump will probably run again in 2024.

I think the "forbidden" "charismatic" non politicians will all be leading candidates from now on

People like Alex Jones, Tucker Carlson or even Kenneth Copeland. Who else?

[DukeOfWoodBerry]

Idk I think Trump will probably run again in 2024.

I think the "forbidden" "charismatic" non politicians will all be leading candidates from now on

People like Alex Jones, Tucker Carlson or even Kenneth Copeland. Who else?

Alex Jones... Lol no. I doubt Tucker even runs because he's smart enough to know GOP would have a slim chance of winning. I don't know know who the last guy is but the internet says he's 83 years old, so no.

[Ashton117]

Alex Jones... Lol no. I doubt Tucker even runs because he's smart enough to know GOP would have a slim chance of winning. I don't know know who the last guy is but the internet says he's 83 years old, so no.

But who else can be the next Trump?

[128]

Democrats are freaking out about how they lost everything outside of the POTUS and you think Republicans stand no chance?

Once people realize how awful Democrats are the media won’t have TDS to drive people to polls what do you think will happen?

[z4v4]

Idk I think Trump will probably run again in 2024.

I think the "forbidden" "charismatic" non politicians will all be leading candidates from now on

People like Alex Jones, Tucker Carlson or even Kenneth Copeland. Who else?

Lol @ Jones running for prez. That just solidifies you've checked out, son.

Tucker... Tucker is a follower, not a leader, with no thought of his own.

Copeland is a straight-up snake oil guy without the Trump charisma - no chance.

[DukeOfWoodBerry]

Democrats are freaking out about how they lost everything outside of the POTUS and you think Republicans stand no chance?

Once people realize how awful Democrats are the media won’t have TDS to drive people to polls what do you think will happen?

Either they'll have someone like Tucker or Cotton who they can brand as a racist nazi or they'll be some weak neocon and the Trump voters won't show up.

We've had decades to realize how awful Democrats are and they've won the popular vote 7 out 8 Presidential elections.

I guess there could be a possible implosion within the Democratic Party when the Bernie wing finds out what a corporate shill Biden is.

[Ashton117]

Lol @ Jones running for prez. That just solidifies you've checked out, son.

Tucker... Tucker is a follower, not a leader, with no thought of his own.

Copeland is a straight-up snake oil guy without the Trump charisma - no chance.

Alex Jones has that charisma though. He could probably wreck through his opponents in the Republican primary debates. He would get a ton of free coverage for all of the things he would say like Trump did.

You've got to admit he has a chance. Trump's build the wall was great and I bet Alex would think of stuff like that to say.
They'd love him

[Noliberals4]

I think someone like DeSantis could win. John James would've easily won if he won his seat this year.

[Ashton117]

I think someone like DeSantis could win. John James would've easily won if he won his seat this year.

Yeah, if John James ran as a Democrat. It's not happening if he runs Republican. There's a reason he lost.

Actually nevermind, he's got a white wife that's a tough sell. It might even be hard as a Democrat with those optics

[z4v4]

Alex Jones has that charisma though. He could probably wreck through his opponents in the Republican primary debates. He would get a ton of free coverage for all of the things he would say like Trump did.

You've got to admit he has a chance. Trump's build the wall was great and I bet Alex would think of stuff like that to say.
They'd love him

Jones doesn't have Trump charisma. He'd have to have Trump charisma with a cherry on top to pull off his spiel, but I guess ya never know...

[deepfat]

If the GOP is smart they will continue on with Trumpism and make their party the nationalist working class party.

They would be very competitive if they did that.



IF they do it....

Where have we seen that before?