Do you think the Republican Party will win the Presidency again?

[Barteh]

What's the longest one party has had the presidency? Probably like 4-5 terms or something.

It will keep going back and forth, the system is designed like that.

[Ashton117]

All true.
In addition for point 3, the DNC and the top of Democratic leadership would rather have Republicans in charge than the Progressive part of the Democratic party.

Sanders/Warren/AOC would fight to pass laws that would really shake up the foundational landscape of this country, which is built on corporations have damn near unlimited power and influence over everything.
Most of the Republican lite part of the party get their campaign donations from these corporations, and thus they would rather focus on gay rights or other social issues rather than tackle economic structures.

Yes, people in the DNC swooned when John Kasich spoke at the DNC convention. They loveeee him. The empty platitudes and calls for unity are their favorite.

Sanders was on Joe Rogan's show where he explained how companies would donate hundreds of millions to lobby against things like Medicare for All.

It's weird how other developed countries can have single payer healthcare like Australia, Canada, Denmark, Sweden and Taiwan.

Are Canada and Australia radical socialist countries?

American citizens would save billions with Medicare for All.

Corporations would lose billions in profits so they won't let happen without a fight.

China is leading the world in new energy technology. China has half of the world's electric vehicles! Produces 75% of the wind turbines and 33% of the solar panels.

The Green New Deal is a necessary measure to keep America from falling too far behind to catch up.

Europeans passed their own "Green New Deal" already. They see it as an important industrial policy which it is.

The price for inaction is high.

I never understand why democrats simply wave the white flag on the economy when if you look at the actual data and results Democrats have factually outperformed Republicans significantly in gdp growth, stock market performance with lower deficits.

In the last 100 years every republican president has had a recession in office. 10/10 while democrats are 3/8


Instead the Democrats focus on identity politics instead of real change to improve the lives of their voters.

https://www.jec.senate.gov/public/in...nt-study-finds

The combination with the highest growth is all democrat president, senate and house.

Furthermore, in the last 100 years every republican president has had a recession in office. 10/10 while democrats are 3/8

https://blog.usejournal.com/every-re...n-baa20aa7b107

https://blogs.cfainstitute.org/inves...r-the-economy/

https://towardsdatascience.com/which...s-a6422c6b00d7

[DukeOfWoodBerry]

What's the longest one party has had the presidency? Probably like 4-5 terms or something.

It will keep going back and forth, the system is designed like that.

We're looking at another 4-5 term situation at least. When you've lost the popular vote 7 out of 8 times, things are trending against you.

Things don't always flip back. California is permanent blue. If Biden passes an amnesty, the GOP are through.

[DukeOfWoodBerry]

Yes as soon as they return to NORMAL from where they are currently.
If no normal, then no.
We tried the outside of the box experiment and no bueno!

Normal like McCain and Romney who got smoked?

You're a ******* liberal. Gtfo of here saying what Republicans should be.

[x-trainer ben]

Normal like McCain and Romney who got smoked?

You're a ******* liberal. Gtfo of here saying what Republicans should be.

Aww some **** sounds upset after the devastating loss where OP got everything totally wrong.
Maybe if you listened you could learn a thing about converting voters, but nooooo stay in your no information bubble where it is safe and warm and you don't have to read uncomfortable facts.
Pfhaggot!

no, normal like not crazy like the current dude.

[DukeOfWoodBerry]

Aww some **** sounds upset after the devastating loss where OP got everything totally wrong.
Maybe if you listened you could learn a thing about converting voters, but nooooo stay in your no information bubble where it is safe and warm and you don't have to read uncomfortable facts.
Pfhaggot!

no, normal like not crazy like the current dude.

What is normal? Nikki Haley? You aren't conservative, I've never seen you articulate or defend a conservative position. Socially liberal with neocon foreign policy, that's what you're into?

[RamataKahn]

Demographics are trending away from Rs big time.

No they aren't.

https://www.dailywire.com/news/chang...y-they-assumed

[Kane_89]

Normal like McCain and Romney who got smoked?

You're a ******* liberal. Gtfo of here saying what Republicans should be.

Fun fact:

Romney got a higher share of the vote in 2012 than Trump did in 2020.

Ya boy Trump got smoked!

[128]

Republicans did very well in these elections, better than expected, even Trump made gains and he's as polarizing as it gets - I think a Republican is a shoe in for 2024 considering how nobody even wanted Biden/Harris as much as they wanted Trump out

[conspiracy5]

Lol no.. usa will be wasteland

[GreatOldOne]

It will be pretty tough going for them.

[DukeOfWoodBerry]

No they aren't.

https://www.dailywire.com/news/chang...y-they-assumed

I addressed that in the OP. Trump got 32% of Hispanics, not exactly some monumental breakthrough. As I said, the gains are actually more than wiped out by the increased turnout. It's a worse situation than 2016 when they won less as a percentage but turnout was lower.

Dailywire and Ben Shapiro aren't credible.

[Seatard]

Yes, easily.

The underlying ideals (America first, etc.) that got Trump elected are a winning platform, just need to bring them to the middle a bit, dial back the bullchit rhetoric, and not elect a moronic piece of chit that everyone hates to sell the platform to Americans.

[DukeOfWoodBerry]

Republicans did very well in these elections, better than expected, even Trump made gains and he's as polarizing as it gets - I think a Republican is a shoe in for 2024 considering how nobody even wanted Biden/Harris as much as they wanted Trump out

The same people who said Trump would win easy, no one will turnout for Biden, ect are saying Rs are in great shape lol. You guys just can't or won't wrap your head around demographics. Trump was the last hurrah. Nikki Haley isn't going to save the day in 2024.

[DukeOfWoodBerry]

Yes, easily.

The underlying ideals (America first, etc.) that got Trump elected are a winning platform, just need to bring them to the middle a bit, dial back the bullchit rhetoric, and not elect a moronic piece of chit that everyone hates to sell the platform to Americans.

America first is polarizing and not widely popular. Immigrants believe in Mexico/India/globalism first and blacks believe in black first.

[Mlinebacker0]

Knee jerk reaction seeing Pennsylvania/Georgia go blue I thought no. But, we have to remember there was a pandemic the likes of which no one alive has seen right before and during the election. We’ll see how far left the Biden admin goes... Regardless, the push for turnout was incredible, mainly targeting younger people who vote Democrat. The other factor is the media. They were successful in convincing many people that Trump is a racist. Let’s see if they can stoke the same vitriol for the next Republican candidate.

[jackamo2887]

Either

A) America is much further left then we all thought so no they won't win.

B) democrats finally mastered election fraud so no they won't win.

Either way thr answer is no.

[TonyTriangles]

The pendulum swings the other way.

[ClivesTriceps]

it's unlikely. You can have a smooth talking Romney type Republican pick up some of the votes that Trump lost by being abrasive but will that man pick up the blue collar white male in Michigan or Wisconsin? Nope.

Romney is a RINO. He is no conservative.

[RamataKahn]

Republicans Are On Track To Take Back The House In 2022

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features...well-for-2022/

[DukeOfWoodBerry]

The pendulum swings the other way.

When's that going to happen in California?

Every year more white boomers and silent generation die and more immigrants and children of immigrants become voting eligible.

Again the GOP has lost the popular vote 7 out of the last 8 Presidential elections. It's extremely difficult to win elections that way and that low % play is their only option. What's going to change the trajectory?

[LiftBigEatBig]

Couple things:

-Romney was a good candidate, should have waited until 2016 to run though. Obama was too hip and cool to beat.
-4 year's of Biden's borderline communist policies and people will be begging for a Republican
-They need a massive overhaul to how voting is done, but Dems won't push that.

[DukeOfWoodBerry]

Couple things:

-Romney was a good candidate, should have waited until 2016 to run though. Obama was too hip and cool to beat.
-4 year's of Biden's borderline communist policies and people will be begging for a Republican
-They need a massive overhaul to how voting is done, but Dems won't push that.

Romney was terrible. Awkward and cringe. Horrible background too. Obama eviscerated his Bain Capital background and any competent campaign would have done the same. Guy picked Paul Ryan as his running mate, tells you all you need to know.

Biden's communist policies? Guy's transition team is full of wealthy executives and lobbyists. Some of you need better information.

[DizzySmalls]

If the GOP is smart they will continue on with Trumpism and make their party the nationalist working class party.

They would be very competitive if they did that.



IF they do it....

Not for much longer. A lot of them old rural whites die off every year, replaced with illiterate, unskilled, useless, degenerate urbanites armed with nothing but pure ignorance and a favorite color.

A lot of what happens will depend on how the left governs. If it is at all sane and not too heavy-handed, I think things will shift left a bit and we will lose some purchasing power in the name of "equity", but most things will stay relatively consistent with how they are now.

If the left gets heavy handed then a lot of people are going to die, probably suppressed and put down by some kind of technology like unmanned drones.

[rhadam]

Fukking lmao @ OP getting bodied by both dems and conservatives in his own thread.

[BunkerBoy]

No they aren't.

https://www.dailywire.com/news/chang...y-they-assumed

Did you even read this article?
The big takeaway they are excited about is Trump going up a few percentage points with black voters. Didnt he get like 12% overall?
Is that an accomplishment?
Republicans are going to continue to get a very small percentage of the black vote, and roughly 30-35% of the Hispanic vote.
Those are not the numbers they want or need going forward.

This is especially true when you factor in that white voters, while still a huge majority of overall voters, are going to lose a few percentage points every election cycle.
Then you have to account for younger voters coming into the electorate, and they vote mostly for Democrats as well.

There is both an age and race concern going forward for the Republican party.

[Random260]

When's that going to happen in California?

Every year more white boomers and silent generation die and more immigrants and children of immigrants become voting eligible.

Again the GOP has lost the popular vote 7 out of the last 8 Presidential elections. It's extremely difficult to win elections that way and that low % play is their only option. What's going to change the trajectory?

What happened to the mid west.... PA/OH/FL/WI/MI is trending to the right federally. (Could be unique to trump but they can harness it if they get a right candidate.)

Az/texas/ga will be swing states that the gop can easily win. You need to understand uneducated whites and whites are breeding at a massive rate still. Immigrants are coming yes but they are not breeding. California is a special case. You are more likely to see PA turning deep read than texas turning to California deep blue.

Gop need to stop picking educated senators as president. Look at bush and trump they know how to speak to uneducated. Tommy tupperville knows how to speak to uneducated. But ofc he needs to center himself if he wants presidency.

[DukeOfWoodBerry]

Fukking lmao @ OP getting bodied by both dems and conservatives in his own thread.

Not really. These are the same people who told said Trump would easily clear 340+ electoral votes lol. Again I can't do anything with low IQ people who don't understand demographics. When you've lost the popular vote 7 of the last 8, clearly there's a trend that hasn't been swinging back.

[DizzySmalls]

Not really. These are the same people who told said Trump would easily clear 340+ electoral votes lol. Again I can't do anything with low IQ people who don't understand demographics. When you've lost the popular vote 7 of the last 8, clearly there's a trend that hasn't been swinging back.

The proclivity for dumb nationalist types to believe alternative facts, fake news, random photoshops, and grand conspiracies without a shred of evidence is a persistent problem for anyone who is trying to preserve market capitalism and individual rights.

[DukeOfWoodBerry]

What happened to the mid west.... PA/OH/FL/WI/MI is trending to the right federally. (Could be unique to trump but they can harness it if they get a right candidate.)

Az/texas/ga will be swing states that the gop can easily win. You need to understand uneducated whites and whites are breeding at a massive rate still. Immigrants are coming yes but they are not breeding. California is a special case. You are more likely to see PA turning deep read than texas turning to California deep blue

Immigrant populations are actually rising significantly in certain Midwest areas, especially PA. Philly and it's suburbs keep growing ala NoVa.