Do you think the Republican Party will win the Presidency again?

[DukeOfWoodBerry]

I personally doubt it. If they do, it will be a very long time with an unrecognizable party. Demographics are trending away from Rs big time. The moderate gains made among non whites are more than offset by their increased numbers. After 4 years of Biden immigration policies the GOP will be pretty much dead except for red states.

[Mr.Roarke]

The people coming from **** hole countries wont vote for a president that will turn their new country in a **** hole

[sfgiants13]

The people coming from **** hole countries wont vote for a president that will turn their new country in a **** hole

You must be new to America

[5x10]

Not without election reform
No future candidate will have the support Trump had

[lildave]

Look at something other than the presidential numbers. By the time this is over Republicans will be only 5 seats away from taking the house and will most likely still control the senate. The issue is next election the democrats wont be able to point at orange man and they will be having to seriously consider if they will actually run Kamala.

[ScottTil]

it's unlikely. You can have a smooth talking Romney type Republican pick up some of the votes that Trump lost by being abrasive but will that man pick up the blue collar white male in Michigan or Wisconsin? Nope.

[denrocks1]

It's possible. Without a literal global pandemic and the media telling everyone that their livelihood and democracy is in danger everyday, voter turnout will drop in 2024.

[Kane_89]

After 2016, Dems felt that Russia rigged the election and became even more motivated to vote.

After 2020, Reps felt that Dems rigged the election and are all over social media saying that they'll never vote again.

Pretty sure thats a recipe for Republican extinction.

[FatBallz]

Why do you hate immigrants, OP?

[DukeOfWoodBerry]

Why do you hate immigrants, OP?

This guy is autistic lol.

[JoeDelts]

The game has always been to fuk people over for 8 years and then pass the baton of power to the other guys when the people have had enough and put their hope in the "other side" making things better. Rinse and repeat ad infinitum. I don't see this changing.

[x-trainer ben]

Yes as soon as they return to NORMAL from where they are currently.
If no normal, then no.
We tried the outside of the box experiment and no bueno!

[rhadam]

So Trump's numbers go up, and OP thinks a (R) won't be elected for a long time.

Logic, not even once.

[SkinnyPhatBrah]

From outside the US, i'd expect Trump to run in 2024 and win - lot of the votes this time weren't pro-Biden, they were anti-Trump.

After 4 years outside of the White house, the ones that were so anti him will have cooled off somewhat, and Biden (assuming he's still around) and whoever else will have earned some grief from being in power - so they won't have as many voters coming out for them.

conversely if Trump is smart I expect he'll maintain his core supporters (these rumours about him starting his own network to screw with Fox, etc) and then he'll win.

Just my 0.02

[hackerwacker]

Everyone said that after Obama's election too

Demographics are making it harder and harder for R's but Trump showed you can energize the right, and even siphon off votes from traditional D demos. Imagine if the R's actually backed Trump, and he wasn't assaulted 24/7 by the media. Trump DOMINATED this election cycle. Not a single soul turned out for Biden. They turned out either for or against Trump.

[Ashton117]

OP you have to consider a few things.

1. Electoral College
These demographic changes have been predicted for a long time but due to the anti-democratic nature of the electoral college system a Republican candidate can still win by a few thousand votes in key swing states and lose the election overall.

2. Voter Suppression and gerrymandering.

Republicans win in 2020 enables them to draw the election maps which ensure that Republicans will continue to have control of state congresses. These congresses routinely pass laws to suppress voters. The goal of Republicans is to make waiting lines 8+ hours long in cities so it both discourages voting and makes it logistically difficult. In many cities across America the waiting line to vote was 8+ hours in 2020. That's why mail in ballots are so horrifying, there's no waiting in line.

3. DNC incompetence
Think about the fact the Democrats won the popular vote by 3 million votes and still lost the 2016 election. Democrats make up the majority of the country. All the DNC needs to do is register voters and get them to vote. Instead there is little to no organization. Biden didn't even have people going door to door because of covid! The republicans did go door to door.

The DNC also loves to run these "Republican-lite" moderates and is hostile to actual progressive ideas that improve people's lives. They fixate on identity politics. All they have to do is run actual progressives but for some reason they're more scared of them than Republicans.

4. Trump could run again in 2024
If the DNC picks/rigs the primary for Harris or some other uninspiring moderate then Trump could win.

[rhadam]

From outside the US, i'd expect Trump to run in 2024 and win - lot of the votes this time weren't pro-Biden, they were anti-Trump.

After 4 years outside of the White house, the ones that were so anti him will have cooled off somewhat, and Biden (assuming he's still around) and whoever else will have earned some grief from being in power - so they won't have as many voters coming out for them.

conversely if Trump is smart I expect he'll maintain his core supporters (these rumours about him starting his own network to screw with Fox, etc) and then he'll win.

Just my 0.02

If Trump found a way to change a few things he could bring in a lot of the people in the middle who were simply anti-trump. I have an issue with his social media presence, actually just his presence in general, I don't believe it's becoming of a US President. The way he speaks of himself and his opposition is off-putting. The tendency to make unsubstantiated claims and accusations on twitter make him come off childish. I could go on about this but it's a key issue in bringing more middle of the road voters in to his fold.

[DukeOfWoodBerry]

Everyone said that after Obama's election too

Demographics are making it harder and harder for R's but Trump showed you can energize the right, and even siphon off votes from traditional D demos. Imagine if the R's actually backed Trump, and he wasn't assaulted 24/7 by the media.

Demographics get worse every year. Have lost the popular vote 7 of the last 8 lol. Biden is running on the most pro immigration platform in modern history. Good luck winning with that.

[BunkerBoy]

Its possible, but its going to be a while before they can find another candidate that can bring a huge following like Trump.
Unless Trump is able to run again, the next Republican candidate is going to stand on stage and lecture about tax cuts for corporations and the deficit.
All the people that love Trump for ranting about Democrats and trash talk are going to tune out and go back to whatever they were doing in their regular life before he showed up.

Democrats will now be heavily investing in Georgia, Arizona, and North Carolina.
They probably will put the hopes for Florida on the backburner for a bit until they see if theres going to be any demographic change there.

Texas will become a major focus probably starting in 2028.
Once Texas turns Blue sometime in the 2030's, its over for the Republicans at the national level without dramatic party reform.

In the short term, Republicans are better off just focusing on obstructing Democratic Presidents through the Senate and possibly the House, since that gap has shrunken some.

[Mercworx]

Not without election reform
No future candidate will have the support Trump had

If the GOP is smart they will continue on with Trumpism and make their party the nationalist working class party.

They would be very competitive if they did that.



IF they do it....

[puzzycrookz]

4. Trump could run again in 2024
If the DNC picks/rigs the primary for Harris or some other uninspiring moderate then Trump could win.

What’s the point of Trump running again if they’re just gonna cheat again? If he loses it’s obvious due to voter fraud at this point and MSM/big tech coordinating with Dems to steal the election. If Trump’s not in office for the next 4 years, there’s no way things will change. In fact, none of the puzzy Republican senators and house members who didn’t speak out enough will ever be president again if they don’t do something about the cheating. They could put in the worse Dem candidate and still win.

[yabbayabba]

Think it depends on how hard left Harris goes when she takes over next year. America showed they are a bunch of riden with Biden cucks but when the bills start rolling in for all the free **** Biden wants and the huge identity politics cluster**** that will be Harris I get the feeling even some left leaning moderate Democrats might not want another four years of that. But, if Biden/Harris stay in their lane and don't get too kooky with the alt left dumb****s it's probably over for Republicans as they are now. It will be interesting if the Republicans keep the Senate and with the gains in the House Biden/Harris might just turn into a lame duck for four years. Might not get an reelection just because they did "nothing" for the entire time.

[BunkerBoy]

OP you have to consider a few things.

1. Electoral College
These demographic changes have been predicted for a long time but due to the anti-democratic nature of the electoral college system a Republican candidate can still win by a few thousand votes in key swing states and lose the election overall.

2. Voter Suppression and gerrymandering.

Republicans win in 2020 enables them to draw the election maps which ensure that Republicans will continue to have control of state congresses. These congresses routinely pass laws to suppress voters. The goal of Republicans is to make waiting lines 8+ hours long in cities so it both discourages voting and makes it logistically difficult. In many cities across America the waiting line to vote was 8+ hours in 2020. That's why mail in ballots are so horrifying, there's no waiting in line.

3. DNC incompetence
Think about the fact the Democrats won the popular vote by 3 million votes and still lost the 2016 election. Democrats make up the majority of the country. All the DNC needs to do is register voters and get them to vote. Instead there is little to no organization. Biden didn't even have people going door to door because of covid! The republicans did go door to door.

The DNC also loves to run these "Republican-lite" moderates and is hostile to actual progressive ideas that improve people's lives. They fixate on identity politics. All they have to do is run actual progressives but for some reason they're more scared of them than Republicans.

4. Trump could run again in 2024
If the DNC picks/rigs the primary for Harris or some other uninspiring moderate then Trump could win.

All true.
In addition for point 3, the DNC and the top of Democratic leadership would rather have Republicans in charge than the Progressive part of the Democratic party.

Sanders/Warren/AOC would fight to pass laws that would really shake up the foundational landscape of this country, which is built on corporations have damn near unlimited power and influence over everything.
Most of the Republican lite part of the party get their campaign donations from these corporations, and thus they would rather focus on gay rights or other social issues rather than tackle economic structures.

[QuentinSutpen]

Things always change, OP.

From 1860 - 1884, Democrats couldn't get the Presidency. Same for 1892 - 1912.

From 1932 - 1950, Democrats dominated.

Just a few decades ago, California was a deep red state, and Texas was a reliable blue state.

Things change

[DukeOfWoodBerry]

Things always change, OP.

From 1860 - 1884, Democrats couldn't get the Presidency. Same for 1892 - 1912.

From 1932 - 1950, Democrats dominated.

Just a few decades ago, California was a deep red state, and Texas was a reliable blue state.

Things change

Demographics are destiny.

[ghostfacedup]

It will be easy for the Dems after the virus disappears in April and Biden is labeled the savior.

[SkinnyPhatBrah]

Just a few decades ago, California was a deep red state, and Texas was a reliable blue state.

Things change

didn't the parties switch platforms though, appealed to different bases?

Texas was blue back when Dixiecrats where a thing.

[cromofo]

i think they'll be competitive until 2028, after that, the tour is over

[Audioslave]

Yes, they will.

[DukeOfWoodBerry]

Yes, they will.

Based on what?