America needs to invest in education if it wants to compete with China

[MuscleXtreme]

Wont happen. Gov makes too much money off of loans. Not to mention, lefties will never stop calling for the half of us who pay taxes to cover the massive loan problem we have now

Which is the issue when the public can vote themselves entitlements.

Perhaps a compromise could be reached where federal backing is only for STEM subjects.

[tunafishha]

China has cucked us all

No my friend(and by friend I mean not my friend). You guys cucked yourself when you decided to steal land from foreigners.

And now you must pay for the white man's sins.

[tank2003]

It needs to be a multi-pronged attack to eliminate it.

1. Financially motivate schools to remove those types of classes. This can be done two ways: A) defund schools that teach those subjects through cutting them off from tax dollars
B) Remove the federal backing of student loans so the lender has to assume the risk of the loan.

2. Have Congress pass a law or Department of Education make it so that criticism of Marxism and post modernism must be taught.

I disagree. I think it should be presented neutrally and let people decide for themselves. Present it like this:
On paper, its a GREAT idea. But in practice, it has a near zero percent success rate with a GIGANTIC body count as a direct of the power given to the head of the government. It is so susceptible to corruption that it is nearly unethical to implement.

The problem we see today is retards like BErnie Sanders ignoring the body count and saying things like
- "Its a FAIR system"
-it's "Not right that we dont have universal healthcare"
-Pre 2016: "Millionaires and billionaires shouldnt exist" but when he became a millionaire..."Billionairs shoulnt exist"
-_______ is a human right. But people like him assign that title to anything that is convenient

[dabbmw2002]

Its not resources that we are lacking, we lack a culture of accountability and hard work.

[tunafishha]

Its not resources that we are lacking, we lack a culture of accountability and hard work.

Americants are very hard workers. The problem is, you guys are damaged goods. Psychologically and pyshically y'all have cancer. It's why the US is dying and why the Americant gene line is dying

[MuscleXtreme]

I disagree. I think it should be presented neutrally and let people decide for themselves. Present it like this:
On paper, its a GREAT idea. But in practice, it has a near zero percent success rate with a GIGANTIC body count as a direct of the power given to the head of the government. It is so susceptible to corruption that it is nearly unethical to implement.

The problem we see today is retards like BErnie Sanders ignoring the body count and saying things like
- "Its a FAIR system"
-it's "Not right that we dont have universal healthcare"
-Pre 2016: "Millionaires and billionaires shouldnt exist" but when he became a millionaire..."Billionairs shoulnt exist"
-_______ is a human right. But people like him assign that title to anything that is convenient

Yeah that makes sense. Good point.

[ReyDelMundo]

USA wont put proper education as a priority. You need dumb people in order to get a socialist state. Properly educated people, people who are aware of history, would never vote for socialism, which is why Cubans and Venezuelans didnt vote for Joe Biden. But dumb fukking Americans, especially liberal will demand to have socialism because they think we'll do it right

By default property values define local funding for public schools. In areas with bifurcated economics private schools exist.


I don't expect you capable of comprehending the aforementioned statement...

[BIGJIMSLADE22]

Students will never care about educational outcomes when their parents don't even care about the outcomes. Doesn't matter how good the teacher is. Student spends one hour with the teacher and lives in the other environment.

Chinese parents are very strict about not bringing shame to the family name. American parents in a growing number of situations either aren't there, don't care, or in some cases are even upset when their kids do well in school, because they would be burdened if the kid wanted to continue their education past 12th grade.

Also, I believe I read somewhere that China only focuses on students who possess all the attributes to succeed, where America tries to educate everyone.

[GrimRep_er]

Imagine living in your distorted reality. NJ *******.

LMAO, I think the liberal welfare recipient has been exposed.

Don't worry, that next job is just around the corner!! Even better, with Biden you may get that $15 an hour.

[lockdev]

Statistically this is actually untrue.

It's a well proven fact that blanket investing in education does not produce an ROI.

A healthy and stable home environment has significantly higher results in educational outcomes than throwing money at teachers and technology.

Facts.

This.

I had an awful education but a great home life. Taught myself most of what I know and am now successful.

JFL@"education" in the US and A.

[tank2003]

By default property values define local funding for public schools. In areas with bifurcated economics private schools exist.


I don't expect you capable of comprehending the aforementioned statement...

You logical fallacy proffered as a valid debate rebuttal shows that you are upset and lack a meaningful retort that furthers the conversation. You resorting to an ad hominem reveals alot about you as a person

But lol at equating that property values impact how dumbed down the curriculum in public schools has become

[Shortfuze]

You can throw all the money in the world in American schools but without the studying culture, respect for teachers' culture, and the cutthroat competition culture that is part of China's success and growth, you won't see much change.

[tank2003]

You can throw all the money in the world in American schools but without the studying culture, respect for teachers' culture, and the cutthroat competition culture that is part of China's success and growth, you won't see much change.

their stupid high population is one of their biggest drawbacks. The saying "You are One in a million" means nothing there because there is LITERALLY nearly 2000 others like you. White collar jobs are so few compared to the sheer population that you have to drum it int he kids heads from birth that they MUST succeed in school to get a cushy job

[ReyDelMundo]

You logical fallacy proffered as a valid debate rebuttal shows that you are upset and lack a meaningful retort that furthers the conversation. You resorting to an ad hominem reveals alot about you as a person

But lol at equating that property values impact how dumbed down the curriculum in public schools has become

You seem mad Brah, what's up?

It's a well known fact that school funding is based on property values.

PM me and maybe we can work on your issues.

[Shortfuze]

their stupid high population is one of their biggest drawbacks. The saying "You are One in a million" means nothing there because there is LITERALLY nearly 2000 others like you. White collar jobs are so few compared to the sheer population that you have to drum it int he kids heads from birth that they MUST succeed in school to get a cushy job

Also historically speaking, China was the first nation to institute civil service exams (way back in the days of Emperor Shi Huangdi) in order to get the best and brightest to work in government so the idea of meritocracy is deep in their blood. Of course, when communists took over, that idea was stalled and crippled for almost 50 years before it was revived again. But also if you take a look at the specifically Chinese population in the US, many kids come from humble backgrounds where both parents work, speak barely any English, and certainly don't have any extra money to invest in their kids education. Yet these same kids will work hard in schools, will come back home and dilligently do their homework, will spend the weekends at the library using tattered SAT textbooks to practice for competitive exams, will go to school even on the weekends to learn English or Mandarin.

The point is education is sacrosanct among Chinese families and providers of education are venerated.

[N0stradamus]

I'll have to reiterate:

investing in education wont have much of an impact in America because all the retarded leftist schmucks want to major in dumb sh]t like Gender Studies....

Do you honestly think any university in China would have a Gender Studies major? H€ll no, they all study mathematics and sciences... They fight to get into those majors...

In the west, ours is a cultural problem where dumb people are deluding themselves into thinking they're "smart" because they're college educated in a nonsensical degree.....

[hardenedbrah]

It needs to adopt a culture of abusing human rights and pushing cultural philosophies and beliefs that are based on a line of thought that you're a complete and utter failure unless you spend your life working 24/7. A lot of people in the west have come to adopt a philosophy of balancing work with pleasure and not living to work.

[Arthax]

Its not resources that we are lacking, we lack a culture of accountability and hard work.

This. It seems like our culture no longer praises these traits.

[mcdojo]

This. It seems like our culture no longer praises these traits.

Chinese americans are heavily against affirmative action. You should be thanking them since they pushed back against prop 16 (legal discrimination based on race), while whites are all for it.

[HotCheetos]

Its not resources that we are lacking, we lack a culture of accountability and hard work.

This, mostly the accountability part. Nobody wants to enforce rules and everybody afraid of being sued. Starts with the parents at home and then school admin enforcing stricter rules with stricter punishment for breaking those rules.

[quadfecta]

Nah, you know the real answer largely homogenous societies are taking over

For some nations the barrier is religion. For others it’s race, culture, and a non English language

[JayJ350]

American education is just a total joke thanks to liberal indoctrination being in control

[Godfrd824]

The education is there for those who want it. The bigger issue is the lack of discipline in the household.