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    Remember the gun waving couple? Being charged with a felony





    St. Louis couple who waved guns at BLM protesters charged with unlawful use of weapon


    St. Louis’ top prosecutor told The Associated Press on Monday that she is charging a white husband and wife with felony unlawful use of a weapon for displaying guns during a racial injustice protest outside their mansion.

    Circuit Attorney Kim Gardner announced the charges against Mark and Patricia McCloskey, who are both personal injury attorneys in their 60s. They also face a misdemeanour charge of fourth-degree assault.
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    Fourth degree assault is an attempted battery that causes contact that would be offensive to a reasonable, ordinary person. The attempted battery must have been made against a family member or member of the same household.
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    Originally Posted by Corbi View Post
    Fourth degree assault is an attempted battery that causes contact that would be offensive to a reasonable, ordinary person. The attempted battery must have been made against a family member or member of the same household.




    Missouri Assault in the Fourth Degree
    According to Missouri laws, section 565.056 a person will be charged with the crime of assault in the fourth degree in the state of Missouri if he or she: Recklessly causes physical injury to another person or attempts to physically injure another person.
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    I read the governor would pardon them, no matter what.
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    Ok guys Friday the 17th, Gov. Parsons said "If charged they would be pardoned." Now, this brought a conversation between my wife and I. She asked, "When you were in ****lia, Rwanda, Haiti, etc and you and your 5 guys were in a building and a gaggle of people were coming by...." I replied, listen, there were times in Spec. Ops. we would have 50+ people walking by. Now did we go out brandishing our M203, S.A.W.'s 9mm, etc.? Nope, it was against the rules of engagement.
    1. These people traveled onto private property

    BUT, here's the rub. The people never stepped onto the easement of the lawyer's house. The castle law is effective if and only if there is an aggression on your castle.

    The fact that they ran outside and brandished their weapons while the people were on the street is where the castle defense falls apart. Many people can be afraid of the passer by's all they want, but that doesn't grant them the right to point firearms. These people never stepped foot onto their direct property. A gated community is not an eminent domain.

    The way I see it, Gov. Parson's said, "Pardon" and the D.A. says, "Formal Charges". So it is a game of political chicken and power moves. What bothers me the absolute most is the fact is I have seen no formal charges against the "Protestors" breaking into and charging onto private property.
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    Originally Posted by x-trainer ben View Post
    I read the governor would pardon them, no matter what.
    I seem to recall Trump was beaking off about it too. Lets see if they put their money where there mouth is..
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    Originally Posted by marinevet63031 View Post
    Ok guys Friday the 17th, Gov. Parsons said "If charged they would be pardoned." Now, this brought a conversation between my wife and I. She asked, "When you were in ****lia, Rwanda, Haiti, etc and you and your 5 guys were in a building and a gaggle of people were coming by...." I replied, listen, there were times in Spec. Ops. we would have 50+ people walking by. Now did we go out brandishing our M203, S.A.W.'s 9mm, etc.? Nope, it was against the rules of engagement.
    1. These people traveled onto private property

    BUT, here's the rub. The people never stepped onto the easement of the lawyer's house. The castle law is effective if and only if there is an aggression on your castle.

    The fact that they ran outside and brandished their weapons while the people were on the street is where the castle defense falls apart. Many people can be afraid of the passer by's all they want, but that doesn't grant them the right to point firearms. These people never stepped foot onto their direct property. A gated community is not an eminent domain.

    The way I see it, Gov. Parson's said, "Pardon" and the D.A. says, "Formal Charges". So it is a game of political chicken and power moves. What bothers me the absolute most is the fact is I have seen no formal charges against the "Protestors" breaking into and charging onto private property.

    Good points! Solid post.
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    Originally Posted by mtpockets View Post
    Good points! Solid post.
    It may be a great point, however what seems to be forgotten is the police were called (appearntly) but they never showed up. There are situations when police must show it there is a “disturbence” if that is all fact, then the case should be closed.
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    Originally Posted by x-trainer ben View Post
    I read the governor would pardon them, no matter what.
    Came in to post this, but Big Bad Ben posted before me.

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    Originally Posted by mtpockets View Post
    I seem to recall Trump was beaking off about it too. Lets see if they put their money where there mouth is..
    LOL, I would rather stand trial as a Patriot than be pardoned by a coward tweeting from his basement.
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    Originally Posted by x-trainer ben View Post
    I read the governor would pardon them, no matter what.
    If gubernatorial pardon power is limited to clemency after conviction then there's no way they'll be convicted before the next governor takes office. Looks like these two will become an election issue.
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    Quite a few Seattle mayors here.
    New development guys, https://www.kmov.com/news/report-pat...a7e819c88.html

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    Originally Posted by marinevet63031 View Post
    Ok guys Friday the 17th, Gov. Parsons said "If charged they would be pardoned." Now, this brought a conversation between my wife and I. She asked, "When you were in ****lia, Rwanda, Haiti, etc and you and your 5 guys were in a building and a gaggle of people were coming by...." I replied, listen, there were times in Spec. Ops. we would have 50+ people walking by. Now did we go out brandishing our M203, S.A.W.'s 9mm, etc.? Nope, it was against the rules of engagement.
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    The way I see it, Gov. Parson's said, "Pardon" and the D.A. says, "Formal Charges". So it is a game of political chicken and power moves. What bothers me the absolute most is the fact is I have seen no formal charges against the "Protestors" breaking into and charging onto private property.

    Given the state of Portland (Or any of the other cities on fire) right now, and the fact that they called the cops, and the cops weren’t coming...

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