The highlights they're asking for?
-Require a verbal warning before an officer is allowed to discharge his weapon. No exceptions for the suspect having a weapon. Someone pointing a gun at a cop or charging with a knife? Better have time for a clear verbal warning before drawing from your holster.
-Change burden from "reasonable expectation the officer's life is in danger" to "has exhausted all other alternatives". Getting actively shot at? Gotta try pepper spray first, THEN a verbal warning, THEN your gun.
-Require police to report anytime their gun is drawn from the holster. Know the guy ahead of you is driving a stolen vehicle and confirmed armed? It's gonna be four hours of paperwork if you do a traditional felony stop.
I truly had been hoping for some useful ideas. This isn't it.
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06-03-2020, 03:10 PM #1
The list of demands for BLM is out, and sadly, it's absurd.
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06-03-2020, 03:12 PM #2
They should just make sure there's 1 black cop per 1 white cop, make them be partners. Keep each other in check. This idea should also spawn some excellent buddy movies.
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It don't matter. None of this matters.
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06-03-2020, 03:16 PM #4
First of all. There aren't even national standards for policing. Every agency is different.
Next, how the hell are you going to get small agencies that pay 8-15 dollars per hour to have the same standards/level of policing as bigger agencies that can require a college degree or military service, and have 10X the amount of training.
Are BLM also going to advocate we double or triple police budgets so we can hire the best qualified candidates, higher standards, longer/more professional training, etc.? Essentially the problem can be fixed by expanding budgets for training, wages, and upping requirements.
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06-03-2020, 03:16 PM #5
It's not even about the race thing. Daniel Shaver was flat-out executed by police and he was white. There ARE some bad cops out there. But that doesn't mean society survives if we take away the ability of the police to keep the rule of law for everyone.
Best idea I've heard is to establish a separate court of law for police misconduct, same as the military has. Don't leave it up to crooked local departments or DA's.
But you still have to let the damn police protect themselves and their community.480s / 370b / 495d / 235 x 2 SOHP
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06-03-2020, 03:23 PM #11
They need to make it harder for people to become a cop. PERIOD. They need to be licensed like a doctor and go through specific type of trainings. All evidence needs to be transparent and after every shooting the cops must be held completely accountable-no QUALIFIED IMMUNITY. Any evidence of racism or police brutality must result immediate firing and never allowed to work in law enforcement again. These are rational solutions that provide deterrents and hold officers accountable.
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06-03-2020, 03:23 PM #12
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06-03-2020, 03:23 PM #14
Please tell me they at least recommended that we get rid of no-knock warrants.
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06-03-2020, 03:25 PM #19
There is no such thing. You are conflating things. Any execution of a warrant requires a knock before entering. HOWEVER, if it knocking would be futile or could lead to destruction of evidence then knocking is not required. In addition, any violation of the knocking requirement does not necessarily result in exclusion of evidence as a result of the search.
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06-03-2020, 03:27 PM #21
A national registry so that disgraced/terminated cops can't just get a job two counties over is an idea I fully support - there are some bad apples at that job can't have any bad apples. 100%
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06-03-2020, 03:29 PM #22
My roommate had a great solution srs
Stream bodycam video to command. If you think about it the cop would have been told to get off him. My only issue is command communication should be withheld while an officers gun is drawn. On a long enough timeline having someone in your ear telling you what to do distracting you while a perp is drawing or shooting at you will get a cop killed.
Im going to be very disappointed if they dont get this going only make it nationwide.
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06-03-2020, 03:29 PM #23
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06-03-2020, 03:31 PM #25
I agree the standards for becoming a cop should be increased. Training should also be increased. But the question becomes. What happens when you can't hire/employ anyone because you don't have enough qualified candidates? In order to increase these standards they'll have to massively increase police salaries, budgets and manpower.
Everybody wants police reform. Nobody wants to throw an extra 3-5 million per year of tax dollars for every 100 existing officers. So a place with 200 officer's needs more like 6-10 million more per year, etc. Training, equipment and manpower is super expensive for policing.
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06-03-2020, 03:32 PM #28
Black people want it easier for Black people to kill other Black people.
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You should see some of the Seattle protester demands.
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2. Fund Community - Based Health and Safety
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