☣️🦠☣️🦠 Coronavirus (COVID-19) Information Thread 🦠☣️🦠☣️

[ss367]

1) I never said we're levelling, The hope is we eventually level off, as opposed to exponetial growth.

2) I already gave you the link, and what I'm looking at are new daily cases. They're down the last few days.

Down where exactly? Have only seen China go down and they are full of shyt

[kkchop28]

I listened to a podcast where they interviewed a 50something year old man who was on the Grand Princess Cruise ship. He came down with the virus on the way home. He said he had a fever of 103 for about 10 hours which he slept through, and since then the fever broke and its been the same symptoms as a minor cold. YMMV.

I listened to that as well. I think the major issue we are currently dealing with is that that media isn't spending any time with those that have the virus and those that have recovered. The "if it bleeds it leads" mentality is causing too many people to go into mass hysteria at this point and we arent seeing the other side of the coin. We are seeing and reading what they want us to.

My other issue is, if the deaths are mostly to those with underlying issues, what's to say that had the common cold or the flu hit them they wouldn't have died as well? This happens everyday throughout the world, but the media doesn't report on it cause it's not 'leading' news. Now throw in Cornavirus and they die and it's immediately on the news for 24 hours straight 7 days a week...

[metroins]

Really really good article.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/coronav...66316?mod=e2fb

Marc Thibault was groggy and surrounded by beeping machines, but he was alert enough to know what it meant when he looked up and saw a priest, wearing protective gear, by his bedside at the Miriam Hospital in Rhode Island.

“Holy cow,” he thought to himself. “I’m 48 years old and I’m getting my last rites.”

Mr. Thibault, one of the first Americans diagnosed with the novel coronavirus, recounted days of pain and fear in his first interview Tuesday, speaking from the intensive-care unit at the Providence hospital where he has been for 13 days, fighting the illness that attacked his lungs. “I was one inch from death,” he said, his voice weary. “No doubt about it. No doubt about it.”

A self-described germaphobe, Mr. Thibault isn’t sure exactly how he became infected. He said he used hand sanitizer constantly on the trip. But the group’s local tour guide said he felt like he was coming down with the flu, and he and Mr. Thibault passed a microphone back and forth to talk to the students. Mr. Thibault is unsure if the tour guide ever tested positive.

He said he told the clinic he had been to Italy and wondered aloud if he could have the novel coronavirus. He was told he didn’t fit the criteria at the time for the test because he didn’t really have the symptoms, which can include a fever or shortness of breath.

He stayed home from work, but just got worse, with growing fatigue, a dry cough and something that resembled bronchitis. He went to a hospital but was again told he didn’t meet the criteria for the test, he said.

Read the whole article.

[ANumber1]

Really really good article.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/coronav...66316?mod=e2fb

Read the whole article.

This is very similar to the story about Patient 1 in Italy, a 38-year-old who only began breathing on his own again Monday after over two weeks in ICU.

In the time it took him to get well enough to be moved to a regular hospital bed, his entire country has been locked done because people in his situation have taken over nearly every available ICU bed that could be cobbled together in the region.

"You won't die" is not the same as "this is mild".

[ss367]

Just hit case 6 in NZ. The tool concert guy passed it on to another. Knowing his wife was getting tested for it puts him in the same category as deliberate aids infectors in my eyes. He should be facing prison time.

Otherwise I think our government has done quite a good job. Cases seems to have stalled.

Your government hasnt done sht just no one visits NZ

[sandman2019]

Should i go to the arnold festival next Friday?

hmm. Lot's of taste testing , pre workouts, foods etc.
lol

breeding ground for viruses.

[Witrebel]

what do you expect Trump to do besides listen to actual medical experts?

He's doing what is actually in his wheelhouse, which is try to stop economic collapse. But medically I dont understand what you expect trump to do. What can he do other than say "get more tests" and rely on it to get done

I hoped he would level with us that this is serious and not put the stock market and economy over the truth. I think the MSM is going crazy like they always do trying to politicize this, and I don't agree with that. He has basically been in the "just the flu" camp. This was the wrong message. Anyways this isn't about trump, I just wanted to point out that its not just the MSM and TDS calling him out, there are right leaning folks who wanted a leader here and got Daytrader Donnie instead.

Does anyone have a good cliff or source of what South Korea is doing differently? Is it just culture and hygiene? We need to be emulating them.

[ss367]

trump the other day “i shut down all flights from china, and people criticized me for this decision, but i did it, not many people agreed with me but i had to do it”

is he being serious or does he think americans are dumb as fuk?does he know that every country did the same? its just common sense, why does he act like he did something out of this world? he should shut down flights from SK italy etc. he literally has done nothing to contain it. he doesnt test somit doesnt look bad when in reality the numbers are already in the thousands.

when he talked about the cruise ship he also said “its not our fault” its actually quite amazing

USA did it first to be fair then everyone followed

[KT667]

SK was around the official numbers we are right now when they got serious about lockdowns, closing public places, etc. And they're only now getting infections under control.
...we're not doing anything remotely on that level. So I don't have hopes that we'll make out as well as they are right now.

im stunned by the american response, like they dont give a chit, italy is on a complete lockdown no more school,festivals,concerts,gatherings, any type of event etc in germany they ended the hockey season before playoffs, bundesliga games will take place without viewers etc. in america the gov is just ignoring it and do absolutely nothing

[metroins]

Should i go to the arnold festival next Friday?

hmm. Lot's of taste testing , pre workouts, foods etc.
lol

breeding ground for viruses.

I don't think you can unless you're like in the show.

I thought they don't allow the public due to virus.

[Strawng]

Really really good article.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/coronav...66316?mod=e2fb



Read the whole article.

Keep in mind, he did have asthma. I realize he exercised and everything, but that couldn’t have helped matters.

[ss367]

I don't see why they would not report true numbers. It is a bit peculiar that while their death rate is low, and the number of new cases are going down, they have a really low recovery number.

This might be due to being overly diligent in their testing ( this is a good thing).

You cannot see why they would not report true numbers? Really? The same reason most of South East Asia is talking out their ass. To not make daddy China look bad. Thailand, Cambodia, Vietnam, Laos, Singapore, Taiwan, China and most likely Korea are all not to be believed

Add in Iran for their own purposes

[KT667]

You cannot see why they would not report true numbers? Really? The same reason most of South East Asia is talking out their ass. To not make daddy China look bad. Thailand, Cambodia, Vietnam, Laos, Singapore, Taiwan, China and most likely Korea are all not to be believed

Add in Iran for their own purposes

dafuk did i just read??

[5x10]

Really really good article.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/coronav...66316?mod=e2fb



Read the whole article.

docs in Italy are saying there are plenty of 40 yr olds having real issues and that it’s just not an old persons virus

[Strawng]

docs in Italy are saying there are plenty of 40 yr olds having real issues and that it’s just not an old persons virus

Literally any co-morbidity from obesity to asthma to diabetes (which most 35+ people have at least one of) make it a total chitshow.

[MakeABanana]

You cannot see why they would not report true numbers? Really? The same reason most of South East Asia is talking out their ass. To not make daddy China look bad. Thailand, Cambodia, Vietnam, Laos, Singapore, Taiwan, China and most likely Korea are all not to be believed

Add in Iran for their own purposes

Can we please keep the CT stuff for the CT thread? Thanks.

[MakeABanana]

Literally any co-morbidity from obesity to asthma to diabetes (which most 35+ people have at least one of) make it a total chitshow.

We're definitely in for a ride then.

From what I've seen with this most recent flu season, while most young people will mount a normal immune response to fight the infection, some people will have a immune system that's so strong that it actually overreacts and creates a cytokine storm. To make a long story short, in an effort to fight of the infection, the overly robust immune response creates a lot of collateral damage --> multiorgan failure.

I wonder if that's happening in more frequency to the younger Italian population. I'd have to go through whatever data is out there to see.

[Pumpinmirin]

Your government hasnt done sht just no one visits NZ

On the contrary a travel ban was imposed pretty early despite massive pressure from tourism and universities. Both are some of the biggest factors in the NZ economy. We had 5 cases pop up in a 10 day period, in the week following only 1 case seems to have cropped up despite one *******s best attempt at spreading the virus.

Would I have been more extreme? Yes.
Does the current method seem to be working though? Also yes.

[ss367]

Can we please keep the CT stuff for the CT thread? Thanks.

It’s pretty well reported they are fudging their numbers, no CT here

[5x10]

It’s in the airports

3 tsa agents in San Jose test positive

https://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/loca...s/2251944/?amp

[Devils]

im stunned by the american response, like they dont give a chit, italy is on a complete lockdown no more school,festivals,concerts,gatherings, any type of event etc in germany they ended the hockey season before playoffs, bundesliga games will take place without viewers etc. in america the gov is just ignoring it and do absolutely nothing

so you'd accept America turning into a totalitarian state with army patrolling the streets because of this virus?

[kkchop28]

It’s in the airports

3 tsa agents in San Jose test positive

https://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/loca...s/2251944/?amp

This just points to the fact that it's wide spread already. The thing is most people are just sick and will never get tested so a true number will never be known. We may never know the true impact or the actual reach of the virus. If keep only testing those that are really sick then our death rate compared to actual cases will remain high compared to placed like SK

[KT667]

so you'd accept America turning into a totalitarian state with army patrolling the streets because of this virus?

dont see a problem with that? if it helps to slow down the virus i sure am. fuk many americans could need some disciplining anyways.

[kkchop28]

https://www.yahoo.com/news/seattle-l...053628224.html

Keeps showing earlier and earlier the more we learn about it. This virus was definitely here much earlier than anyone anticipated and docs probably chalked everything up to a normal flu or cold at the time. For all we know a majority of people previously sick may have already recovered without even knowing it.

[MEDITATE]

https://www.yahoo.com/news/seattle-l...053628224.html

Keeps showing earlier and earlier the more we learn about it. This virus was definitely here much earlier than anyone anticipated and docs probably chalked everything up to a normal flu or cold at the time. For all we know a majority of people previously sick may have already recovered without even knowing it.

it wouldve have the same characteristics but definitely a different strain, else the spread wouldve happened

[davik]

so you'd accept America turning into a totalitarian state with army patrolling the streets because of this virus?

france is totalitarian?

[MEDITATE]

so you'd accept America turning into a totalitarian state with army patrolling the streets because of this virus?

no idea if youre an idiot or a troll

[SillieBazzillie]

Breakthroughs in the last 5 years in immunotherapy have led to many old people, who would have died even 5 years ago from cancer, to still be alive and kicking, albeit with a compromised immune system.

This virus has the potential to really do a number on the boomer population if it continues to spread unchecked.

[ANumber1]

so you'd accept America turning into a totalitarian state with army patrolling the streets because of this virus?

"Minimal and temporary exercise of the constitutionally-sound police power to stop the spread of infectious disease" = "totalitarian state", apparently.

[OttomanEmpire]

British MP and Parliamentary Under-Secretary of State for the Health Ministry Nadine Dorries becomes the first UK MP to test positive for COVID-19. (BBC)