☣️🦠☣️🦠 Coronavirus (COVID-19) Information Thread 🦠☣️🦠☣️

[BigBallsMcgee]

Lolwot? We should have had kits in excess ready and been testing heavily since at least early February.

Yea obviously easy to say now, but nobody was saying that at the time.

Please bump the thread where you or anyone else was calling for kits in January.

No other country to my knowledge was doing that either. Medical experts worldwide weren't saying that(inb4 one or two exceptions)

You're expecting human beings to be psychic just because they are in the government. its taken the entire world by storm.

[MakeABanana]

What other countries on earth were primed and ready two months ago or got started two months ago?

"herp derp drumph should have been clairvoyant and predicted the biggest virus outbreak of the last 50 years".

get out of here with this nonsense.

Yea obviously easy to say now, but nobody was saying that at the time.

Please bump the thread where you or anyone else was calling for kits in January.

No other country to my knowledge was doing that either. Medical experts worldwide weren't saying that(inb4 one or two exceptions)

You're expecting human beings to be psychic just because they are in the government. its taken the entire world by storm.

in after one or two exceptions

Singapore and Taiwan have COVID-19 contained.

We're ****ing America though. We're #1, no?

The WHO had kits. Why did we stick to making our own instead and fuk that up?

[GreatOldOne]

what more was supposed to be done? We havent done anything different than other countries.

China was testing 10-15 thousand people per day.

[BigBallsMcgee]

This, greatest country in the world. We got a 2 month head start, but we bungled it. Is it 100% trumps fault? Probably not. But this is coming from someone who generally try’s to find a way to defend trump or find the silver lining, and on this issue, he is DEAD wrong and failing us. This was his time to step up. He is letting us down. And again, zero TDS here, I support a lot of what he does.

what do you expect Trump to do besides listen to actual medical experts?

He's doing what is actually in his wheelhouse, which is try to stop economic collapse. But medically I dont understand what you expect trump to do. What can he do other than say "get more tests" and rely on it to get done

[BigBallsMcgee]

in after one or two exceptions

Singapore and Taiwan have COVID-19 contained.

We're ****ing America though. We're #1, no?

You mean countries the size of individual cities in the USA are containing it easier? I'm stunned.

[TrinnieBuu]

Yea obviously easy to say now, but nobody was saying that at the time.

Please bump the thread where you or anyone else was calling for kits in January.

No other country to my knowledge was doing that either. You're expecting human beings to be psychic just because they are in the government. its taken the entire world by storm.

I don’t think this is a fair or sound argument you’re making. The CDC mailed out a defective set of test kits (not defective due to manufacturing as falsely claimed above, defective because they deemed the WHOs guidelines for tests as not good enough and invented a new testing scheme, which then falsely flag the presence of virus when there is none). This was Feb 6. At that time it was also communicated in the media that states have received test kits. The fact that they thought to do this indicates they know the need for it, they just botched the execution.

The fact that they could not be validated and the CDC has to do all testing for an entire month after, was kept quiet. Other countries report daily how many tested and how many positive. The entire month of Feb, we got essentially no information on this from our own government. I’m not pinning this on one person. The federal government collectively failed.

[newcomb12]

How is antibacterial soap or a disinfectant going to keep me from getting a virus?

[BigBallsMcgee]

China was testing 10-15 thousand people per day.

You mean the country that caused all this in the first place and ignored it so bad it went global is your shining example?

lmao.

[BigBallsMcgee]

I don’t think this is a fair or sound argument you’re making. The CDC mailed out a defective set of test kits (not defective due to manufacturing as falsely claimed above, defective because they deemed the WHOs guidelines for tests as not good enough and invented a new testing scheme, which then falsely flag the presence of virus when there is none). This was Feb 6. At that time it was also communicated in the media that states have received test kits. The fact that they thought to do this indicates they know the need for it, they just botched the execution.

The fact that they could not be validated and the CDC has to do all testing for an entire month after, was kept quiet. Other countries report daily how many tested and how many positive. The entire month of Feb, we got essentially no information on this from our own government. I’m not pinning this on one person. The federal government collectively failed.

Ok so they did act in early February but the kits they made were faulty. That's a manufacturing issue. WHoever is at fault for that happening, highly doubt its Donald Trump like the media is claiming.

If our medical experts deferred to Trump on how to make the test kits they should all be fired

[shyheimz]

Meanwhile in South-Korea:



Looking thick, solid, tight.

[MakeABanana]

How is antibacterial soap or a disinfectant going to keep me from getting a virus?

Coronavirus has a lipid bilayer membrane that, like grease on a dish, "dissolves" when exposed to soap. That effectively destroys the virus.

Re: BigBallsMcgee, I think if you exclude Trump's name and just call it "the government", he's going to be a little less emotional. To be quite fair, this is a multifactorial failure of the system.

[BigBallsMcgee]

Coronavirus has a lipid bilayer membrane that, like grease on a dish, "dissolves" when exposed to soap. That effectively destroys the virus.

Re: BigBallsMcgee, I think if you exclude Trump's name and just call it "the government", he's going to be a little less emotional. To be quite fair, this is a multifactorial failure of the system.

Yes, I agree clearly something failed but at least give an accurate analysis of it instead of "drumph's killing us" like the media is doing. I dont understand why their nonsense gets a pass

[Reliance012]

How is antibacterial soap or a disinfectant going to keep me from getting a virus?

Most soaps are not just “anti bacterial.” They aren’t antibiotics for the skin lol. They are anti microbial, including being effective against many viruses. The vast majority of Disinfectants and antiseptics can kill viruses.

[metroins]

Dallas Ft Worth has at least 7 cases.

R/P ----->

Wasting thread space arguing politics.

[R3L3NTL3SS]

Yea obviously easy to say now, but nobody was saying that at the time.

Please bump the thread where you or anyone else was calling for kits in January.

No other country to my knowledge was doing that either. Medical experts worldwide weren't saying that(inb4 one or two exceptions)

You're expecting human beings to be psychic just because they are in the government. its taken the entire world by storm.

....uhhh...there's people who make 6 figures a year who's job it was to do all the **** you just said someone itt should have done. Lmfao are you srs right now?
You need to be a psychic to see China getting annihilated by this and think "damn...probably a good idea to get things in order to be able to test for this for not if - when it makes it's way here."
People with their ear to the ground on this have been saying since January it would make it's way here eventually. And they don't make 6 figures a year as infectious disease experts to figure it out.

[BigBallsMcgee]

....uhhh...there's people who make 6 figures a year who's job it was to do all the **** you just said someone itt should have done. Lmfao are you srs right now?

And that person is Donald Trump?

I'm not arguing nobody at all is at fault for anything, I'm arguing against the notion that is somehow Trump's fault

[R3L3NTL3SS]

Gtf off Trump's balls for 5 seconds. No one is saying Trump. Replace trump with government. There are many people in our GOVERNMENT who's job it is to see this **** on the horizon and prepare us for it - that never happened

[ANumber1]

To be quite fair, this is a multifactorial failure of the system.

To say I'm disgusted by our public health infrastructure is an understatement. John F. Kennedy and Ronald Reagan couldn't get this mess fixed if they worked together.

Trump's biggest mistake is simply failing to level with the public and provide strong, trustworthy leadership.

[Pumpinmirin]

Lmaooooo not sure if srs.

They've hardly done fukall to stop spread a long time ago like they should have.
Cases have certainly not stalled. I can guarantee you we will be in the thousands of cases by weeks end. The numbers only seem good now because we haven't been, and probably still aren't, testing everyone we should be.

Are you on that kiwi time brah?

[Anachron]

Meanwhile in South-Korea:



Looking thick, solid, tight.

Nothing short of admirable, to be honest.

[R3L3NTL3SS]

Meanwhile in South-Korea:

[img]https://i.imgur.com/eFLwX9C.png[/mg]

Looking thick, solid, tight.

For the dummies, what are we looking at?

[iamxclusive]

For the dummies, what are we looking at?

SK is containing the virus.. new cases are steadily decreasing.

[metroins]

Houston hospitals are 95% full on a regular day. They've honestly done no preparations.

[R3L3NTL3SS]

SK is containing the virus.. new cases are steadily decreasing.

Great news for them! I guess we can assume their reportingsare more trustworthy than China's?

[kkchop28]

So question to all... does anyone know anyone who actually has the virus currently? Anyone know how they are feeling, what it's like?

[Anachron]

Great news for them! I guess we can assume their reportingsare more trustworthy than China's?

I don't see why they would not report true numbers. It is a bit peculiar that while their death rate is low, and the number of new cases are going down, they have a really low recovery number.

This might be due to being overly diligent in their testing ( this is a good thing).

[R3L3NTL3SS]

what it's like?

Seems like it can vary dramatically. Some cases are nothing more than mild cold symptoms and some cases are full on pneumonia, can't breathe without ventilator, and eventually, death.

[R3L3NTL3SS]

I don't see why they would not report true numbers. It is a bit peculiar that while their death rate is low, and the number of new cases are going down, they have a really low recovery number.

This might be due to being overly diligent in their testing ( this is a good thing).

SK was around the official numbers we are right now when they got serious about lockdowns, closing public places, etc. And they're only now getting infections under control.
...we're not doing anything remotely on that level. So I don't have hopes that we'll make out as well as they are right now.

[Frank Drebin]

So question to all... does anyone know anyone who actually has the virus currently? Anyone know how they are feeling, what it's like?

I listened to a podcast where they interviewed a 50something year old man who was on the Grand Princess Cruise ship. He came down with the virus on the way home. He said he had a fever of 103 for about 10 hours which he slept through, and since then the fever broke and its been the same symptoms as a minor cold. YMMV.

[MakeABanana]

Seems like it can vary dramatically. Some cases are nothing more than mild cold symptoms and some cases are full on pneumonia, can't breathe without ventilator, and eventually, death.

The interesting thing about this virus is that compared to H1N1, there's a lot of cardiomyopathy that appears to be induced by SARS-CoV-2. According to an ICU doc in Seattle, he's seeing that these patients aren't refractory to oxygen therapy per se compared to H1N1 patients, but that their hearts fail and they go into cardiac arrest. So there's a question of whether there is a myocarditis component to the severe forms of the disease.