NBA 2019 draft and free agency thread

[GotNext]

Guess since it's ramping up, we may as well have ONE thread to discuss the trades going on.

So far:
- LAL/NOLA: agreement in place to trade AD from NOLA to Lakers for Lonzo, Ingram, Hart, #4 pick in 2019, two future FRP, pick swap rights
- LAL/NOLA/???: Lakers trying to package their remaining young guys (Wagner, Bonga, Jones) to a third team ON THE BACK of the AD trade to create another max slot

Yesterday:
- Al Horford declining his option and testing free agency, rumors that a 4-year/100mil deal may be waiting for him
- Kyrie allegedly set on Nets

Today:
- MEM/Jazz: Mike Conley traded to Jazz for Jae Crowder, Kyle Korver, Draft Picks

[GotNext]

We're looking at the Utah Jazz fielding:

PG: Mike Conley
SG: Donovan Mitchell
SF: Joe Ingles
PF: Derrick Favors
C: Rudy Gobert

Not a bad starting five ...

[TBO1313]

The grit and grind era is officially over. ZBO, then Tony Allen, Marc and finally Mike. I loved those teams and its why I became a Grizz fan

[GotNext]

The grit and grind era is officially over. ZBO, then Tony Allen, Marc and finally Mike. I loved those teams and its why I became a Grizz fan

That Avery Bradley deal is not aging well. They can't hold him on the books for what he brings to the table - I expect him to be waived to avoid the guaranteed cap holds.

Shame, but Grizzlies need a reboot bad. My god, the Parsons trade ...

[HoustonMiscer]

bruh espn and fs1 legit tried to pass off a tweet from a known troll account as a legit report LMFAO. Troll acct tweeted that chris paul made fun of hardens manboobs so hard he cried and went home from practice LMAOOOOO! And these retards legit tried to pass this **** off like it was a legit report!! Fuk 2019

[TBO1313]

That Avery Bradley deal is not aging well. They can't hold him on the books for what he brings to the table - I expect him to be waived to avoid the guaranteed cap holds.

Shame, but Grizzlies need a reboot bad. My god, the Parsons trade ...

We actually got Parson's as a free agent and EVERYBODY got screwed by contracts that year. The Avery Bradley deal and the even worse Marc Gasol trade were both done by Chris Wallace who was the worst GM in the league. Just look at how much more we got for Mike Conley

[WestAfrica]

If Memphis cuts Korver, he’s 38 and LAL gets him for vet min GG.

[GotNext]

If Memphis cuts Korver, he’s 38 and LAL gets him for vet min GG.

Honestly expecting teams in the west bribing the Memphis front office just to not cut Korver for this scenario, lol.

Korver and LeBron reunited .. with AD .. and a solid support cast instead of this 3rd star non-sense? Phew ...

[notWilliam]

We actually got Parson's as a free agent and EVERYBODY got screwed by contracts that year. The Avery Bradley deal and the even worse Marc Gasol trade were both done by Chris Wallace who was the worst GM in the league. Just look at how much more we got for Mike Conley

to be fair, rookies used to be paid like dog ****... but now their salaries scale up pretty quick
so the 1st round pick they got this year is not as great of a haul as it seems imo

[WoofieNugget]

Middleton just declined his option and is likely leaving the Bucks.

Hoping for: Kawhi to stay in Toronto. Kemba Walker to Lakers.

Horford is a massive free agent pickup for several teams, will be interesting to see if he goes.

[WorldClassDBag]

All these teams making big trades, can't tell if I should be happy or sad that the Spurs almost never trade players

[GotNext]

to be fair, rookies used to be paid like dog ****... but now their salaries scale up pretty quick
so the 1st round pick they got this year is not as great of a haul as it seems imo

That was one reason why the Lakers were not super keen on keeping #4, it comes with a 7m cap hit ... damn, these rookie contracts are tricky now.

Kuzma on 2mil looks like a genius chip to have if you are the Lakers.

Middleton just declined his option and is likely leaving the Bucks.

What? No - Middleton will just negotiate a new deal with the Bucks and stay. Only a mad man would leave Giannis right now, especially with no Kawhi next year in the East.

[skinnyfat88]

I'm praying the Lakers sign Kemba to a massive deal. Would be hilarious to see such an idiotic move. He would get hunted on every possession in the playoffs on D as a 5'10 midget and it would cripple the team filling out their roster.

Only against Philly could the Raps not afford to have Lowry and Fred on the floor at the same time (both Kemba-sized).

With the proper defensive schemes it's not a big deal to have small guards so long as they're contributing.

[4Adz4]

Interested in seeing where D'Lo ends up, likely Kyrie signs with the Nets and they'll let Russell go if that happens, he's gonna demand serious money coming off the back of an all star selection and he's turning out real nice, ironic the Lakers ditched Randle and Russell in favour of Ingram and Lonzo who they both just traded and seem to be the lesser talents.

Surprised nobody seems to be making a bigger push for him or atleast it's not being reported that teams are.

[sooby]

Only against Philly could the Raps not afford to have Lowry and Fred on the floor at the same time (both Kemba-sized).

With the proper defensive schemes it's not a big deal to have small guards so long as they're contributing.

Lowry and FVV are known for their defense. Even then, I think certain matchups and line-ups could have exposed their lack of height.

Kemba isn't exactly known to be a savant on that end either, then again neither is Curry although he isn't as terrible as people think. But I think they would do better with filling out their roster with some good shooters and defenders. AD and Lebron isn't enough to carry a team to a championship. Even if you got Kemba you still need a team 7-8 deep who you can count on. AD and Lebron aren't exactly ironmen either and need breaks, which is where they will need certain guys who can fill in well and have production not completely take a nosedive.

[GotNext]

Interested in seeing where D'Lo ends up, likely Kyrie signs with the Nets and they'll let Russell go if that happens, he's gonna demand serious money coming off the back of an all star selection and he's turning out real nice, ironic the Lakers ditched Randle and Russell in favour of Ingram and Lonzo who they both just traded and seem to be the lesser talents.

Surprised nobody seems to be making a bigger push for him or atleast it's not being reported that teams are.

Guessing we seen Collison going to the Lakers, and D'Lo goes to the Pacers. Unless the Lakers do the dumb thing and get Kemba.

[chivasregal]

Jarett Culver ftw

[JPeeper]

Kawhi will stay.

All that matters.

[notWilliam]

That was one reason why the Lakers were not super keen on keeping #4, it comes with a 7m cap hit ... damn, these rookie contracts are tricky now.

Kuzma on 2mil looks like a genius chip to have if you are the Lakers.



What? No - Middleton will just negotiate a new deal with the Bucks and stay. Only a mad man would leave Giannis right now, especially with no Kawhi next year in the East.

yeah the new rookie contracts make it even tougher for the tank crowd.
i actually like to look at it this trend: players are picking where they want to go regardless of existing contract situation

its better to be semi-good and recruit a superstar than be really bad and accumulate assets

Conley is a great pick up for the Jazz. They desperately needed another guy who could score and make plays next to Donovan. Recent rumors were the they were going to offer DLo a big contract. I like this much better. Jazz will be nice next year.

I'm praying the Lakers sign Kemba to a massive deal. Would be hilarious to see such an idiotic move. He would get hunted on every possession in the playoffs on D as a 5'10 midget and it would cripple the team filling out their roster. If they have anyone who is not a dumbass over there they will spread their remaining money out to 3 and D guys to surround LeBron and AD.

I think the 3 and D approach makes most logical sense, but then you had 0 ball handlers besides LBJ.
Cant just run LBJ out there for 48 minutes and quality backup PG play (let alone starters) dont come cheap.

Lowry and FVV are known for their defense. Even then, I think certain matchups and line-ups could have exposed their lack of height.

Kemba isn't exactly known to be a savant on that end either, then again neither is Curry although he isn't as terrible as people think. But I think they would do better with filling out their roster with some good shooters and defenders. AD and Lebron isn't enough to carry a team to a championship. Even if you got Kemba you still need a team 7-8 deep who you can count on. AD and Lebron aren't exactly ironmen either and need breaks, which is where they will need certain guys who can fill in well and have production not completely take a nosedive.

Yeah they need one more ball handler on the perimeter and its hard to get that without paying up for Kemba.
The thing is, with $24M, how many "certain guys who can fill in well" can you get? Gonna have to pay up in excess for these role players

[TBO1313]

yeah the new rookie contracts make it even tougher for the tank crowd.
i actually like to look at it this trend: players are picking where they want to go regardless of existing contract situation

its better to be semi-good and recruit a superstar than be really bad and accumulate assets



I think the 3 and D approach makes most logical sense, but then you had 0 ball handlers besides LBJ.
Cant just run LBJ out there for 48 minutes and quality backup PG play (let alone starters) dont come cheap.



Yeah they need one more ball handler on the perimeter and its hard to get that without paying up for Kemba.
The thing is, with $24M, how many "certain guys who can fill in well" can you get? Gonna have to pay up in excess for these role players

I think the days of the LBJ offense where he drives and kicks to shooters is over. He just doesn't have it in the tank to do that all game long for an entire series anymore. They need another offensive creator and as good as Anthony Davis is I'm not sure if it will be him

[anonymous]

LMAO @ houston trying to offer cp3 to the knicks for absolutely nothing.

just lol

[DeadeyeDingo]

Cant believe no-ones reported on this breaking news yet..

The Atlanta Hawks have traded the 2019 No. 44 overall pick to the Miami Heat for a future conditional second-round pick.

Can we get an update to the first post please.

[HayZues Christi]

Cp3 to Boston for hayward... who says no?

[hackfunnigans]

Cp3 to Boston for hayward... who says no?

CP3 looked awful last season.

[HayZues Christi]

CP3 looked awful last season.

He looked like everybody else who plays with harden and isnt part of the pick n roll.


Hayward was equally trash. I just think cp3 fits Steven's system much better than kyrie. Both are horrible contracts.

[Shortstop36]

Ima be coping hard as **** this offseason

[HoustonMiscer]

LMAO @ houston trying to offer cp3 to the knicks for absolutely nothing.

just lol

lmfao houston looking dumber and dumber by the day. fire everybody

[sooby]

lmfao houston looking dumber and dumber by the day. fire everybody

[nvrstopworking]

Cp3 to Boston for hayward... who says no?

Makes some sense tbh... and that way they could prob re-sign Morris and grab a decent big (JV? Randle?) from the FA pool.

Another team I’d hit up is MIA. See if you can do something like Capella and CP3 for Whiteside, Dragic, Waiters, Olynk... something like that.

[KennyFisher]

Cp3 to Boston for hayward... who says no?

CP0 is washed.

Hayward could still put up 18-20 points per.