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06-05-2019, 12:20 AM #76
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06-05-2019, 12:21 AM #77
To the people in here talking about how the reckless guy driving the pickup will spend a long time in jail or about how he deserves severe punishment - I hate to break it to you, but most likely, he won't receive anywhere near the type of prison sentence he deserves. I've heard countless stories about victims of these types of DWI type incidences where the criminals receive what amounts to a slap on the wrist to believe the guy will face anywhere near the amount of time he deserves for what he did.
Just a few years ago, some known alcoholic lady in my area got drunk at a bar one afternoon and proceeded to turn some old guy fetching a newspaper from across his residential road into a hood ornament on her car, thereby slaughtering him right in the middle of the day. The poor guy had just recently retired after a lifetime of hard, honest work, and her decision to drive drunk - in the middle of the afternoon, no less - took everything he'd worked so hard for his entire life away from him in an instant. All she faced for punishment was a few months in jail, then had to do like one month in jail each year for three years as a "reminder" for what she had done, plus a bit of community service related to drunk driving. Oddly enough, even the family of the man, including his widow wife claimed to be mourning with the piece of crap who did it and sympathized with her. The whole thing was just a ridiculous sham through and through.
That's just one of countless bogus sentences I've heard about being handed out over driving under the influence cases like this where someone slaughters one or more people in the process. Given that this happened in ultra liberal California, I have a hard time believing the guy is going to get any sort of legit punishment fitting for his crime. Unless he's got several other DWI type incidences under his belt already, I doubt he'll do time beyond 5 years, and certainly less than 10. Then he'll proceed to be unemployable and live off of government social benefits for the rest of his life once he's out. It's ridiculous, but that's how our "justice" system works in cases like these. This clown took the life of 1 person, injured 4 more, and traumatized numerous others who had to witness it for life, and he won't be held accountable for it properly. That's just the sad reality.
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06-05-2019, 12:27 AM #78
At what point did I make any statement or say anything about any person who is wrongly convicted?
I firmly stand behind Franklin in his belief.
That it is better 100 guilty Persons should escape than that one innocent Person should suffer, is a Maxim that has been long and generally approved.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blackstone%27s_ratio
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06-05-2019, 12:30 AM #79
****ing clown. hope he gets tortured the rest of his life.
Am absolutely terrified of driving on the freeway now a days, with the amount of idiots on the road.
Everyone is too busy checking their instagram rather than paying attention.
In 2015, 3,477 people were killed and 391,000 people were injured in motor vehicle crashes involving distracted drivers.
Gun deaths are about 14k per year for homicidesPsalm 23:4 Even though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I fear no Norwood Reaper, for You are with me; Your Shaver and Your Razor, they comfort me
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06-05-2019, 12:36 AM #80
Point is, you can't separate death row inmates into two groups - A. These guys definitely did it or B. They probably did it, but we're not totally sure.
If you're going to take a life, you have to be 100% sure. It's been proven dozens of times that the justice system gets it wrong sometimes. For the wrongly convicted, their only hope is to stay alive long enough for exonerating evidence to surface. If you kill them prematurely... oops.
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06-05-2019, 12:41 AM #81
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06-05-2019, 12:42 AM #82
Sorry bro, but you're simply wrong on this one. The only way he'd get nailed with serious hard time behind bars like that is if they could prove that he did it intentionally. Since he was driving under the influence, that obviously won't be the case. He'll most likely do less than 5 years behind bars no matter what, and potentially far less after factors like "good behavior while in prison" are taken into account. The only way he'd do 10+ years is if he already had another DWI incident that involved killing another person under his belt. This would be true even in far more moderate, and probably even conservative states. He's definitely not getting hard time for this in liberal CA.
On a side note to all this - the liberals are constantly pushing to increase the tobacco purchasing/use age limit up to 21, and have succeeded in several states. Meanwhile, they're always in favor of ridiculous lenience towards crap like DWI manslaughter deaths, and are typically the crowd demanding the legal alcohol age be lowered to 19 or lower. As terrible as tobacco is for one's health, alcohol is far worse for society as a whole on countless levels, including bringing others into it as victims who had nothing to do with it, like the person who died and people injured in the video of the OP.
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06-05-2019, 12:48 AM #83
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I only need one group. In my logical criminal justice system - in situations like this, where there is zero doubt you are responsible for taking the life of someone else due to being a true POS, you are immediately executed in the public square. That takes care of your concerns of convicting and killing the wrong person, costing more than prison, and not effecting crime rates - check, check, check. Rest of them where it isn't indisputable can rot in prison for life.
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06-05-2019, 12:50 AM #84
Isn't it pretty clear cut that the guy did it when he was the one driving the vehicle while intoxicated and the entire thing was caught on very clear tape footage in broad daylight? There is literally zero debate about that he did it in a case like this, and you don't even need much of an investigation process to establish that fact. Furthermore, he had also been convicted of causing a DWI related accident within the past year prior to this event. What makes you think this dude is going to change his ways and stop driving intoxicated when they let him out? How many more lives does he have to take, or put in serious jeopardy at a minimum, before enough is enough?
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06-05-2019, 01:09 AM #85
Quick search of jail records shows he's getting charged murder, misdemeanor suspicion of DUI, felony DUI causing bodily injury, driving without a proper license, gross vehicular manslaughter and hit and run. Hopefully the DA doesn't wuss out and drop/lower the charges but it's California, so who knows.
This idiot forfeited his life IMO.
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06-05-2019, 01:17 AM #86
Don't you think the government has enough power? You are looking at this case in a vacuum and ignoring the implications of giving the government a free pass to bypass the constitution and execute you. Very slippery slope. That's pretty much the policy of every chithole country that you'd never want to live in.
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