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    I think I know why people don't believe in God

    It's not about science. It's guilt and convenience.

    Have you ever told a lie?
    Have you stolen anything?
    Have you ever used God's name in a cuss phrase?
    Have you ever looked at another person with lust?

    Wow. So when you die you will stand before God as a liar, thief, blasphemer, and adulterer at heart.... and that's only 4 of the 10 commandments.

    Not very convenient and easy believing in God.

    Good thing he sacrificed his only son for us and we can repent.

    God is good.
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    I dont believe in God because there have been like 500++ Gods through time. By telling me only your god is real and everyone else is wrong, means billions of people are rotting in hell simply because they were born in the wrong part of the continent. Sounds like a ****ty god to me. I will remain agnostic until proven otherwise.
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    Originally Posted by paul_v View Post
    It's not about science. It's guilt and convenience.

    Have you ever told a lie?
    Have you stolen anything?
    Have you ever used God's name in a cuss phrase?
    Have you ever looked at another person with lust?

    Wow. So when you die you will stand before God as a liar, thief, blasphemer, and adulterer at heart.... and that's only 4 of the 10 commandments.

    Not very convenient and easy believing in God.

    Good thing he sacrificed his only son for us and we can repent.

    God is good.
    Nope. I don't believe in God because I have no good reason to believe in God. But points to OP for a vivid imagination.
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    Originally Posted by sy2502 View Post
    Nope. I don't believe in God because I have no good reason to believe in God. But points to OP for a vivid imagination.
    The reason to repent is where you want to spend eternity. But do you consider yourself a good person? What do you base that off of? If there were no laws, what is keeping you from walking into a store and stealing stuff?
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    Originally Posted by paul_v View Post
    It's not about science. It's guilt and convenience.

    Have you ever told a lie?
    Have you stolen anything?
    Have you ever used God's name in a cuss phrase?
    Have you ever looked at another person with lust?

    Wow. So when you die you will stand before God as a liar, thief, blasphemer, and adulterer at heart.... and that's only 4 of the 10 commandments.

    Not very convenient and easy believing in God.

    Good thing he sacrificed his only son for us and we can repent.

    God is good.
    How could I stand before something that I donโ€™t believe in and doesnโ€™t exist?

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    you don't have to believe in god

    but being an insufferable, nihilistic edgelord is not good either

    unfortunately, the people who represent atheism are exactly that
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    Originally Posted by paul_v View Post
    Have you ever looked at another person with lust?
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    Originally Posted by paul_v View Post
    It's not about science. It's guilt and convenience.

    Have you ever told a lie?
    Have you stolen anything?
    Have you ever used God's name in a cuss phrase?
    Have you ever looked at another person with lust?

    Wow. So when you die you will stand before God as a liar, thief, blasphemer, and adulterer at heart.... and that's only 4 of the 10 commandments.

    Not very convenient and easy believing in God.

    Good thing he sacrificed his only son for us and we can repent.

    God is good.
    Nope. For me, it's because the very notion of a magic wizard living in the sky judging people is absurd and ridiculous and defies logic for anyone with the even the slightest intellectual capacity.
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    Originally Posted by paul_v View Post
    The reason to repent is where you want to spend eternity. But do you consider yourself a good person? What do you base that off of? If there were no laws, what is keeping you from walking into a store and stealing stuff?
    You're going to spend eternity exactly where everyone else is - buried in the ground rotting down to bones.
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    Originally Posted by Aesthetical View Post
    I dont believe in God because there have been like 500++ Gods through time. By telling me only your god is real and everyone else is wrong, means billions of people are rotting in hell simply because they were born in the wrong part of the continent. Sounds like a ****ty god to me. I will remain agnostic until proven otherwise.
    Agnostic too

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    Originally Posted by paul_v View Post
    The reason to repent is where you want to spend eternity.
    What I want and reality are completely different things. I want to be 10ft tall, but I assure you that no matter how hard I want it, or how hard I believe it, I won't be. So let's stick with what is real and not wishful thinking.

    But do you consider yourself a good person?
    By my standards I guess I am an ok person.

    What do you base that off of?
    Rational thought and common sense.

    If there were no laws, what is keeping you from walking into a store and stealing stuff?
    That's the dumbest question I have heard. You need to be told not to steal, and to be threatened with punishment for you not to steal? So if it wasn't for the threat of hell, you'd be a sociopath? Then by all means, keep believing in god and hell and whatever else you need to behave like a civilized individual.
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    God triggering atheists hardcore ITT.
    OP: โ€œpeople donโ€™t believe because itโ€™s hardโ€
    Atheist edgelords โ€œnuhuh you fukin *******, youโ€™re gonna be worm food like everyone else!!!! Reeeeeeeeee! Magic wizards donโ€™t exist Reeeeeโ€ while never reading a page in the Bible to see what it actually says.
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    Originally Posted by Holyfenix View Post
    while never reading a page in the Bible to see what it actually says.

    Some of us only read non fiction



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    Originally Posted by Holyfenix View Post
    God triggering atheists hardcore ITT.
    OP: โ€œpeople donโ€™t believe because itโ€™s hardโ€
    Atheist edgelords โ€œnuhuh you fukin *******, youโ€™re gonna be worm food like everyone else!!!! Reeeeeeeeee! Magic wizards donโ€™t exist Reeeeeโ€ while never reading a page in the Bible to see what it actually says.
    So if a book written 2000 years ago says there is a magic sky wizard, then that's proof? LOL, gullible minds are gullible.
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    Originally Posted by Holyfenix View Post
    God triggering atheists hardcore ITT.
    OP: โ€œpeople donโ€™t believe because itโ€™s hardโ€
    Atheist edgelords โ€œnuhuh you fukin *******, youโ€™re gonna be worm food like everyone else!!!! Reeeeeeeeee! Magic wizards donโ€™t exist Reeeeeโ€ while never reading a page in the Bible to see what it actually says.
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    Highly educated believer crew checking in.
    Great. And the specific evidence that justifies this belief in (insert whichever god here) is?.......
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    Originally Posted by sy2502 View Post
    What I want and reality are completely different things. I want to be 10ft tall, but I assure you that no matter how hard I want it, or how hard I believe it, I won't be. So let's stick with what is real and not wishful thinking.



    By my standards I guess I am an ok person.



    Rational thought and common sense.



    That's the dumbest question I have heard. You need to be told not to steal, and to be threatened with punishment for you not to steal? So if it wasn't for the threat of hell, you'd be a sociopath? Then by all means, keep believing in god and hell and whatever else you need to behave like a civilized individual.
    Who are you to say stealing is bad if you have no moral law ? Whether he lives the life of a priest or a serial killer why would it matter if nothing will happens when he dies itโ€™s inherently meaningless
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    Originally Posted by NextPound View Post
    You donโ€™t understand the term belief.
    Isnt belief with zero evidence a rather funny concept though. It's like if you had an impenetrable box in front of you right now- and a single ball, either a red or green, was inside (revealed information), but no experiment at all could be performed to reveal which. How much sense (or heck any meaning), would the following declaration from you have: "I believe the ball is green".

    How was your belief determined? Was a 1000-sided die cast to simply arrive at a specific god/religion? Nah....I think most people can see how such beliefs tend to arise, it is strongly influenced by birth circumstances. This belief wouldnt exist if you were born onto North Sentinel Island into an uncontacted tribe.....you would have never even heard about the Christian God throughout your entire life (if Christianity is the religion in question).
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    ^^^^

    Also, I do understand what belief is quite well (realizing all definitions are subjective).

    I believe that when I walk out of the door, I wont just rise up into the sky. This is a belief- based on numerous, numerous, inductive evidence associated with not just my personal experience, but of humanity's understanding of gravity over its existence. But it's still a belief nonetheless (based on evidence): there is nothing in science that says for sure that I will not float up into the sky. That's not how science works.

    but please, as a member of the highly educated crew, feel free to elaborate more.
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    but please, as a member of the highly educated crew, feel free to elaborate more.
    you asked for it breh, he is about to academically BURY your ass with a cosmological argument leading into a dialectical basis for biblical truth corroborated with certain scientific facts which confirm biblical historicisty fuark, im lookin at a dead man.

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    Who are you to say stealing is bad if you have no moral law ? Whether he lives the life of a priest or a serial killer why would it matter if nothing will happens when he dies itโ€™s inherently meaningless
    I am not the one saying it, common sense tells that. A society of individuals that killed each other at the first opportunity would not have trust. Without trust social relations cannot happen, and with humans being social animals, without a society we go extinct. Same with stealing, stealing is bad not because sky daddy says so, but because if people don't pull their weight in a society, the society collapses. This is some pretty basic stuff and requires no sky daddy of any type. The fact you can't figure it out all by yourself is what worries me.
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    Yeah OP..so someone can kill someone and repent and spend eternity in a place called heaven, and if I believe in Buddha( I don't) and never hurt anyone I spend eternity in hell..makes perfect sense
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    Originally Posted by sy2502 View Post
    I am not the one saying it, common sense tells that. A society of individuals that killed each other at the first opportunity would not have trust. Without trust social relations cannot happen, and with humans being social animals, without a society we go extinct. Same with stealing, stealing is bad not because sky daddy says so, but because if people don't pull their weight in a society, the society collapses. This is some pretty basic stuff and requires no sky daddy of any type. The fact you can't figure it out all by yourself is what worries me.
    why shouldn't we go extinct?
    why shouldn't society collapse?
    who are you to tell someone that we need to uphold society?

    if nothing matters, than why are you upholding these pretenses?
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    I think most people confuse God and Santa Clause. They seem to think that he grants wishes to nice people and the like.
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    Agnostic here. If god is real, he sure likes to punish innocent/good people.
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    Nope. It really is just the science bud.
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    if nothing matters, than why are you upholding these pretenses?
    God isn't real = nothing matters?
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