HBO's Game of Thrones - Final Season VIII - 2nd Thread

[GotNext]

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Go to 30ish seconds in on this video pal

I really thought Drogon went dracaris but also pushed with talons against it when it watched the episode - you are right, thats iffy as fuk. Well, what else is new.

[KingSWRV]

I genuinely can't believe this is how Game of Thrones will be remembered. The potential GOAT show to this mess

What a ridiculously stupid episode. I feel like every episode this season I go in with less and less expectation yet they're still not met and it feels utterly disappointing. Nearly every major character arc has been ruined. I remember thinking years ago that when these characters come to an end it's going to be upsetting as hell but Jaime died in such a stupid way that it had no effect on me. I don't think I care about any of these characters anymore

If GRRM doesn't get the books out his work will be remembered like this by majority.

Genuinely baffled how it got this bad. I even defended the last season but this...this is too much now.

It’s Game of Thrones not Game of Arcs

[Jaydawg08]

I genuinely can't believe this is how Game of Thrones will be remembered. The potential GOAT show to this mess

What a ridiculously stupid episode. I feel like every episode this season I go in with less and less expectation yet they're still not met and it feels utterly disappointing. Nearly every major character arc has been ruined. I remember thinking years ago that when these characters come to an end it's going to be upsetting as hell but Jaime died in such a stupid way that it had no effect on me. I don't think I care about any of these characters anymore

If GRRM doesn't get the books out his work will be remembered like this by majority.

Genuinely baffled how it got this bad. I even defended the last season but this...this is too much now.

The thing that interested me with last night's episode was the theme of being unable to let go and the cost.

Cersei could not let go of power. It cost her her life

Euron could not let go of the battle. Cost him his life

Jaime could not let go of Cersei and his love for her. Cost him his life

Dany could not let go of her obsession. It may cost her her life

The Hound could not let go of his need for revenge. It cost him his life

Pointed this out earlier.

[AKMuzzle]

It’s Game of Thrones not Game of Arcs

Its Game of thrones not Game of Dragons.

Its Game of Thrones not Game of Walkers.

You sound like a shill. If you really like the thrones and political part of it that much why dont you sit down and just watch BBC Parliament.

GOT was a good mix of everything. The Writers dont see that.

[JtotheIzzo]

Apparently GRRM replied with “this guy gets it” to this blog post in 2013. This was always Dany’s destiny.

[NasStan]

It’s Game of Thrones not Game of Arcs

People like you is clearly who this show is now prime for boyo

[Jaydawg08]

Apparently GRRM replied with “this guy gets it” to this blog post in 2013. This was always Dany’s destiny.

I quoted this one earlier in the thread.. Not sure if people were down for seeing that or not, or if they really even cared to see it.. I thought it made sense, and if GRRM came out verbally and said this was the decision I was going with, the fans would be 1000% behind this episode lmao

[AKMuzzle]

People like you is clearly who this show is now prime for boyo

Hes probably the type of guy to rewatch Hercules.

3 times. lol

[Jaydawg08]

People like you is clearly who this show is now prime for boyo

Explain how they messed up character arcs then boyo? I want to see if you can actually flesh out your point rather then just ride the back of others that you read online.

[KingSWRV]

Its Game of thrones not Game of Dragons.

Its Game of Thrones not Game of Walkers.

You sound like a shill. If you really like the thrones and political part of it that much why dont you sit down and just watch BBC Parliament.

GOT was a good mix of everything. The Writers dont see that.

Yo jaydawg ^ handle my lightweight

I don’t even want to deal with this scrub

[MustardTiger17]

People like you is clearly who this show is now prime for boyo

He is practically brain dead at this point. Sad!

[NasStan]

Pointed this out earlier.

Not sure what you're pointing out - seems an easy way to forgo 7 season of character development for some of those characters. The Hound and Cersei were always heading that way. Euron I couldn't give two chits about. What obsession for Dany, they had surrendered and she could have killed Cersei. She never once had an obsession to burn KL to the ground or she wouldn't have gone through diplomatic channels SO many times. Jaime's arc was just ended horrendously.

Explain how they messed up character arcs then boyo? I want to see if you can actually flesh out your point rather then just ride the back of others that you read online.

It's funny you say this when I've probably been reading the books and watching the show long before you.

[KingKringe]

I get that but he had like 30 years of his life to take revenge. Instead he got on with it. Now he decides his greatest enemy is his brother. I dunno just find that when you have to really look for a reason in a tv show, it means they didnt do a great job at it.

I would of thought it would have been better with the Hound accompanying Aryas mission to kill cersie and the reason we get the two brothers warring it out is because each is protecting their person. But meh.

yeah im with you there, at least we got cleganebowl lel.

Apparently GRRM replied with “this guy gets it” to this blog post in 2013. This was always Dany’s destiny.

people have been pointing out the fact Dany has mad king impulses before 2013 even. She's young and entitled, people aren't complaining about that fact she went rogue on her original goals but rather how it was handled, she literally went from a compromising queen to a warlord in a fortnight.

[anonymous]

With some edits this whole season could have been a lot less ridiculous, the fan edit of Euron taking down raehgal was a hundred times better than the ridiculous homing missile javelin scorpions, which shows how much better things could have been even using the retarded source material

[Wazooty]

I don't think people have a problem with Dany going mad queen so much as how shoddily written and rushed recent events were.

No, we're not saying that was no build up, we're saying that her finally snapping happened is such a rushed and poorly written way it degrades the event. Just like the whole "endless" night happening is one friggin night massively degrades the event.

[outfoxxed]

It’s Game of Thrones not Game of Arcs

Its actually a song of ice and fire.

Game of thrones is just the title of the first book

[Jaydawg08]

Not sure what you're pointing out - seems an easy way to forgo 7 season of character development for some of those characters. The Hound and Cersei were always heading that way. Euron I couldn't give two chits about. What obsession for Dany, they had surrendered and she could have killed Cersei. She never once had an obsession to burn KL to the ground or she wouldn't have gone through diplomatic channels SO many times. Jaime's arc was just ended horrendously.



It's funny you say this when I've probably been reading the books and watching the show long before you.

Dany's obsession for the throne.. wtf do you think she's been all about.



Jamie was ALWAYS about not letting of his love for Cersei.. Jesus he even spelled it out for you when he left Brienne.. He couldn't shake her like miscers cant shake ex gf's and cant stay NC.. If anything Jamie is the very definition of a stupid miscer who is controlled by love.


Well go ahead then. Prove why they messed up the arcs

[Kiwikind]

Really enjoyed this episode. If you can look past the fact that Drogon had the GOT equivalent of a mario kart golden star for invincibility, which was necessary to get through everything in such a short season, it was great.

I've seen a lot of criticism of stuff like the Golden Company being useless (but this shows that money only gets you so far, you can't always buy success), Dany going full Mad Queen (but this was going to be her destiny from day one) and how Jaime and Cersei die by falling rocks instead of a gruesome revenge kill by Arya or by trial (but this would be too fantasy land) but I think the endings were fitting for those that got them. The Hound is my favourite character but it would have been wrong for him to win Cleganebowl. To get peace he had to kill his brother, even if it meant killing himself.

The season hasn't been perfect by any stretch, and it's possible the finale will tank, but I think it's much better, and more fitting than a lot of people give it credit for. All things considered.

[Jaydawg08]

I don't think people have a problem with Dany going mad queen so much as how shoddily written and rushed recent events were.

No, we're not saying that was no build up, we're saying that her finally snapping happened is such a rushed and poorly written way it degrades the event. Just like the whole "endless" night happening is one friggin night massively degrades the event.

She was always held in check by her council and advisors... tell me what happened to almost all of them? then the ones she has left, in her eyes can she trust them?

It was all good and cool when they were able to steer her away towards being "the bad guy" but once their gone, Episode 5 is a kind of what you get.

[AKMuzzle]

Explain how they messed up character arcs then boyo? I want to see if you can actually flesh out your point rather then just ride the back of others that you read online.

Tell me how they didnt?

John Snow was destroyed in episode 3. His whole character, especially after coming back to life, was meant to be this great warrior/leader. Gets 0 shine and walks around like a puppy in the last 2 episodes.

Bran. Totally useless storyline. A whole show of build up and he ends up being a btec stephen hawkings on a chair.

Jamie Lanister. Why THE PHUCK did he make his way all the way to winterfell to only comeback and die with his sister. He decided he wanted to war with the other side but then suddenly decides to go back. Pointless journey.

Varys was meant to be the master of whisprers or whatever. Goes out because he told the HAND of the queen that he didnt trust her LOL smart move

Danny being the mad queen. That could of been dealt with much much better. Rushed as chit.

Its a poor season. Cant see why people dont see it. Everything was well thought out in the first few seasons.

This Season:


'' Danny just forgot.''

[KingSWRV]

Tell me how they didnt?

John Snow was destroyed in episode 3. His whole character, especially after coming back to life, was meant to be this great warrior/leader. Gets 0 shine and walks around like a puppy in the last 2 episodes.

Bran. Totally useless storyline. A whole show of build up and he ends up being a btec stephen hawkings on a chair.

Jamie Lanister. Why THE PHUCK did he make his way all the way to winterfell to only comeback and die with his sister. He decided he wanted to war with the other side but then suddenly decides to go back. Pointless journey.

Varys was meant to be the master of whisprers or whatever. Goes out because he told the HAND of the queen that he didnt trust her LOL smart move

Danny being the mad queen. That could of been dealt with much much better. Rushed as chit.

Its a poor season. Cant see why people dont see it. Everything was well thought out in the first few seasons.

This Season:


'' Danny just forgot.''

roast this goober

[YesWayNoWeigh]

I know that. That happened when he was a frikking kid. The two of them were literally living a stone throw away for most of their lives. TF take out the anger now?

hes been wanting to kill him

[BuildKing]

Anyone got link to the fan edit of rhaegal death

[Muzzlrpress]

yeah im with you there, at least we got cleganebowl lel.



people have been pointing out the fact Dany has mad king impulses before 2013 even. She's young and entitled, people aren't complaining about that fact she went rogue on her original goals but rather how it was handled, she literally went from a compromising queen to a warlord in a fortnight.

This people still don't get it. We aren't upset that she went nuts, we're upset with how she went nuts. The way it happened was too much of a leap for many of us, not the fact that it did happen.

[KingSWRV]

Anyone got link to the fan edit of rhaegal death

You mean the one that completely eschews the surprise/shock factor to deliver a more generic cookie cutter type edit completely missing the point of making the audience feel sorrow and shock?

[AKMuzzle]

roast this goober

Quit getting personal. Its a TV show. We are criticising the show.

YOure acting like we are gunning your moms cooking recipe book.

[Muzzlrpress]

She was always held in check by her council and advisors... tell me what happened to almost all of them? then the ones she has left, in her eyes can she trust them?

It was all good and cool when they were able to steer her away towards being "the bad guy" but once their gone, Episode 5 is a kind of what you get.

She has never up until last night killed innocent people willingly. The only ones taht got caught up in her chit were slavers, which are seen as evil in pretty much any work of fiction, or people actively trying to kill her. That's not madness, that is normal Queen chit.

Before this moment, the crucified kids pissed her off

She made it her business to eradicate slavery

She tried to govern Mereen and listen to the citizens

If I'm to believe she can disregard innocent lives (key word is innocent, focus on this) after her whole life, the YEARS leading up to this were all about freedom and saving people, even SACRIFICING HER SAFETY AND A DRAGON TO LITERALLY SAVE THE WORLD, I'm gonna need way more to go on that Cersei pissed her off and she was betrayed.

[Jaydawg08]

Tell me how they didnt?

John Snow was destroyed in episode 3. His whole character, especially after coming back to life, was meant to be this great warrior/leader. Gets 0 shine and walks around like a puppy in the last 2 episodes.

Bran. Totally useless storyline. A whole show of build up and he ends up being a btec stephen hawkings on a chair.

Jamie Lanister. Why THE PHUCK did he make his way all the way to winterfell to only comeback and die with his sister. He decided he wanted to war with the other side but then suddenly decides to go back. Pointless journey.

Varys was meant to be the master of whisprers or whatever. Goes out because he told the HAND of the queen that he didnt trust her LOL smart move

Danny being the mad queen. That could of been dealt with much much better. Rushed as chit.

Its a poor season. Cant see why people dont see it. Everything was well thought out in the first few seasons.

This Season:


'' Danny just forgot.''

Each one of them continued their same character flaws that they've showed for a large majority of the show. They were able to change here and there, but guess what.. Just like real life, our flaws and true self will always come to life. Even Arya went back to being real Arya, and in the end saved herself by doing so.

He loved his sister, already stated numerous times he did crazy and ruthless things in the name of family and love. WTF is more naturally flawed yet human is that. They had a decent ending, dying the arms of the person they did everything for. Family.

Dany was always going to go that route, especially after everyone she cared about died and she was no longer receiving the adulation and realized that her life's dream was actually not rightfully hers.

[ANumber1]

She has never up until last night killed innocent people willingly. The only ones taht got caught up in her chit were slavers, which are seen as evil in pretty much any work of fiction, or people actively trying to kill her. That's not madness, that is normal Queen chit.

Before this moment, the crucified kids pissed her off

She made it her business to eradicate slavery

She tried to govern Mereen and listen to the citizens

Daenerys didn't "go mad", she was just a narcissist who only helped the underclass because they gave her lots of positive attention for it, not because she actually cares about doing good things. In the West, everybody thinks she's presumptuous and annoying, and she can't handle the criticism so she just set everybody on fire.

Change my mind.

[NasStan]

Dany's obsession for the throne.. wtf do you think she's been all about.

[img]http://i.imgur.com/dnRzMC1.png[img]

She started going mad queen just as they had surrendered ergo she was getting the throne already.

Destroying the entire city and killing all the civilians even after they've all surrendered is accomplishing what more exactly? Enlighten me. The soldiers had put down their arms, Cersei had no men left. SHe wants to go straight to the tower and burn Cersei - that's a completely different point.

Jamie was ALWAYS about not letting of his love for Cersei.. Jesus he even spelled it out for you when he left Brienne.. He couldn't shake her like miscers cant shake ex gf's and cant stay NC.. If anything Jamie is the very definition of a stupid miscer who is controlled by love.

Throughout all these seasons it has shown Jaime being more and more aware of how crazy Cersei is before he finally walks away from her after 7 seasons of development. What was the point of all those scenes with Brienne? Where he talks about his legacy on the Kingsguard and how everyone misunderstands him. He also apparently doesn't care about the people anymore when that was why he killed the Mad King in the first place.

Well go ahead then. Prove why they messed up the arcs

You literally haven't proven chit you gonad.