Kentucky Derby.

[Corbi]

Kentucky Derby, 2 things.
#1. I don't care for horse racing and think it should be done away with.
#2. What the hell was with that finish today? DQ the winner & award the race to 2nd place who wasn't even close?

[Mark1T]

Not a great way to win.

[Corbi]

Not a great way to win.

It was complete bull$hit, I could see if the horse that got basically blocked ended up in 2nd and they wanted to bitch, but the one who was "awarded" the win wasn't even close and was in no way involved in the controversy and had a clean run but was just too damn slow.

[LWW]

Thinking the same.....that was really phucked? When chit like that happens, I wonder......what's next? and it may be something I really care about.

[Corbi]

Thinking the same.....that was really phucked? When chit like that happens, I wonder......what's next? and it may be something I really care about.

Well we already had the BS non interference call in the Rams vs Saints game so I guess damn near anything goes?

[Jtbny]

It was complete bull$hit, I could see if the horse that got basically blocked ended up in 2nd and they wanted to bitch, but the one who was "awarded" the win wasn't even close and was in no way involved in the controversy and had a clean run but was just too damn slow.

Not really knowing the "rules" at play I read this :

http://www.espn.com/horse-racing/sto...kentucky-derby

Seems to make a good argument as to why. Also looks like in a smaller race (not the Derby), it would have been called instantly. Not to worry though, Trump is looking into it as per his early shtter tweet

[Corbi]

Not really knowing the "rules" at play I read this :

http://www.espn.com/horse-racing/sto...kentucky-derby

Seems to make a good argument as to why. Also looks like in a smaller race (not the Derby), it would have been called instantly. Not to worry though, Trump is looking into it as per his early shtter tweet

I don't give 2 $hits about any interference or blocking calls, want to win a race get a faster horse. That being said the one who was given the win wasn't involved in the skirmish and lost by 2 full lengths. I my opinion it was a 100% incorrect and thus bull$hit call.

[Jtbny]

I don't give 2 $hits about any interference or blocking calls, want to win a race get a faster horse. That being said the one who was given the win wasn't involved in the skirmish and lost by 2 full lengths. I my opinion it was a 100% incorrect and thus bull$hit call.

IDK, rules matter.

[Dave76]

I'm not a horse racing fan. I do watch the three Triple Crown races, Kentucky Derby, Preakness, and Belmont. Other than those races, I pay no attention to the sport.

I hate to see the winner of any major sports competition decided by a technicality or a foul. Horse racing, football, baseball, it doesn't matter. I hate to see umpires, referees, etc. decide a major event. Yes, I saw the interference. but it had nothing to do with the second place horse. I saw no reason to overturn the results.

[Corbi]

Yes, I saw the interference. but it had nothing to do with the second place horse. I saw no reason to overturn the results.

He gets it.

[7Seconds]

Seeing the replay on NBC, it looked to be the correct call based on the rules I learned about 3 minutes earlier. You could tell by the reaction from the trainer and jockey of Maximum Security that they knew they were f*cked. Trainer basically zoned out during the interview. Although, I come from dirtbike racing and that was excellent use of the defensive line.

[7Seconds]

Not to worry though, Trump is looking into it as per his early shtter tweet

There are good horses on both sides.

[Bando]

horse racing .... should be done away with.

Why?

I don't have a dog in the fight, just curious.

[Corbi]

Why?

I don't have a dog in the fight, just curious.

I don't like them whipping the horses and far too many die during the course of racing, not as barbaric as bull fighting but I still don't like it.

[Mark1T]

I don't like them whipping the horses and far too many die during the course of racing, not as barbaric as bull fighting but I still don't like it.

I am not opposed to stopping horse racing. It won't happen, though.

I have never watched horse racing because of those very reasons and the way they are raised. I only read about this race.

To me, horses mean free, spirit and beauty. Horses are very affectionate and smart.

[Corbi]

I am not opposed to stopping horse racing. It won't happen, though.

I have never watched horse racing because of those very reasons and the way they are raised. I only read about this race.

To me, horses mean free, spirit and beauty. Horses are very affectionate and smart.

Look into dog racing if you want to see horrific situations, i'm no PETA fan & love to eat animals but the way the dogs are treated needs to be eliminated & i'm glad here in Wisconsin all of the dog tracks went out of business & we used to have 5-6 of them.

[spiritbuilding]

Speaking of it. Have you seen Ram's Kentucky Derby Edition, which was debuted in New York a few days ago?
Ram Heavy Duty Kentucky Derby Edition Debuts in New York

[CommitmentRulz]

As one who one watches three horse races a year (Triple Crown races), the stewards just gave me a reason to skip them all. Why watch a race that doesn't count and they just decide a winner after the race?

[Mark1T]

Look into dog racing if you want to see horrific situations, i'm no PETA fan & love to eat animals but the way the dogs are treated needs to be eliminated & i'm glad here in Wisconsin all of the dog tracks went out of business & we used to have 5-6 of them.

I did a few years ago and you are right.

Greyhounds are beautiful dogs and very loving. There are Greyhound adoption services out there for placing retired racing dogs in homes.

On the other hand, there are owners of race dogs that kill them if injured or too old and babies that are not up to the selective breeding process are killed which is hard to imagine. Too cruel to discuss here.

[Bando]

To me, horses mean free, spirit and beauty. Horses are very affectionate and smart.

Horses and dogs are also competitive. They'll do everything in their power to tree a coon first or outrun an Indian on a horse. I think racing is quite noble and beautiful. When I retire I want to adopt a retired Greyhound, they're just beautiful animals.

[Mark1T]

Horses and dogs are also competitive. They'll do everything in their power to tree a coon first or outrun an Indian on a horse. I think racing is quite noble and beautiful. When I retire I want to adopt a retired Greyhound, they're just beautiful animals.

They are quite gorgeous and very sweet. Watching them run in a field is amazing how much ground they cover so quickly.

The racing on the surface is awesome, but the underlying factors that I mentioned at least for me and others, is too much for me to appreciate the racing.

[7Seconds]

As one who one watches three horse races a year (Triple Crown races), the stewards just gave me a reason to skip them all. Why watch a race that doesn't count and they just decide a winner after the race?

As I understand it it doesn’t matter if the new winning horse was affected. It only matters if it directly affected the performance of any other horse on the field, which would be war of will. Maximum clearly impeded war of wills performance and he was thus disqualified. Maximum Security almost took out three horses moving out the way he did, clipping legs with War of Will. That's why he moved behind War of Will and not Country House in the final standings. Not much different than in football with holding penalties; a hold on the left side of the field didn't hinder the defense to the right on a run, but it doesnt matter, it's still gonna get called back.

[Bando]

The racing on the surface is awesome, but the underlying factors that I mentioned at least for me and others, is too much for me to appreciate the racing.

Fair enough, I'm sure there's some gritty stuff behind the scenes. Same with ballet, gymnastics or even powerlifting. The seven 1st place trophies I have in my basement gym didn't come without some uncomfortable stuff you don't see on meet day.

[Karl_Hungus]

Fair enough, I'm sure there's some gritty stuff behind the scenes. Same with ballet, gymnastics or even powerlifting. The seven 1st place trophies I have in my basement gym didn't come without some uncomfortable stuff you don't see on meet day.

Not really comparable. The "uncomfortable stuff" that people voluntarily engage in to prepare for competition doesn't really compare to forcing an animal, through physical violence, to run to the point of severe physical injury or death.

[Corbi]

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/sports/...won-t-n1002266

And it ain't over yet folks, the owner of what I call the rightful winning horse is planning an appeal of this decision.

[Squid24]

Didn't see it, but read up on it...not sure why the horse not involved won...should have gone to the other horse involved, if it mattered that much in the race...

From other races that I have watched..seems like a lot of bumping goes on when all are so close together...smh...me not care otherwise...

[ElrondHubbard]

Why?

I don't have a dog in the fight, just curious.

Dog racing too.

[Mark1T]

Didn't see it, but read up on it...not sure why the horse not involved won...should have gone to the other horse involved, if it mattered that much in the race...

From other races that I have watched..seems like a lot of bumping goes on when all are so close together...smh...me not care otherwise...

I heard more details today. Basically, the horse that came in 1st, got out of its lane and into another lane.

[Brackneyc]

I heard more details today. Basically, the horse that came in 1st, got out of its lane and into another lane.

People also have a bad habit of not staying in their lane.

[Mark1T]

People also have a bad habit of not staying in their lane.

Literally and metaphorically.