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04-03-2019, 12:46 PM #151
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04-03-2019, 12:46 PM #152
Wrong.
https://www.technologyreview.com/s/6...n-up-the-grid/
Wind and solar are unreliable energy sources, as they can't be scaled according to demand. That creates problems for grid management.
https://www.greentechmedia.com/artic...e-other-animal
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04-03-2019, 12:56 PM #154
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Wow, page 1 was an absolute blast to read, lotta armchair environmentalists ITT with no real bearing on the engineering behind alternative energy
The short of is, Trump's right unless you over-contextualize his statement.
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04-03-2019, 12:57 PM #155
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That's the big issue no one considers is that the grid has to have available power at any given moment, any that isn't used is wasted. So we will never be able to rely (at least with current expectations - batteries wouldn't suffice) on wind and solar ONLY because if there is a spike, they need to be able to ramp up generation which you can't do with renewables.
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04-03-2019, 01:01 PM #156
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04-03-2019, 01:18 PM #159
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Cars will never replace horses dagnabit! And anyways, there ain't no place round these parts to get that wachacallit "gazoline."
Just like the tv doesn't work when the wind stops blowing...
lmfao at all you cultist in here defending every single moronic thing he says.
"wind isn't scale able so of course wind can't power the whole world hur dur. Cult leader orange was right"
Man y'all are SAD. This was just one more in the mile long things of stupid chit he's said. Just nod your heads and move on like good little cultist should.Early AM workout crew.
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04-03-2019, 01:21 PM #160
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04-03-2019, 01:44 PM #165
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you're confusing efficiency with capacity. Not even close to the same. Capacity factor shows how much it did generate versus its total capability. That's closer to the teens, solar has a higher rating at about 25%. We have to report this to balancing authorities.
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04-03-2019, 01:54 PM #166
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I didn't post up the chart boyo. And I'm not some super wind homo either. I was simply saying that idiot Trump's statement that "if the wind stops blowing you can't watch tv" is like most of what he says, wrong. Of course people have backups to wind just like they do with solar. He's had a hard on for wind energy ever since he got his ass kicked in court by the Irish or Scottish government about building a wind farm off the coast of one of his chitty golf courses. He's simply a douche bag.
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I know you didnt post it but you cant even decifer between efficiency and capacity and you do sound all homo for renewables. If we move towards 100% renewables we'll either end up paying out the ace for batteries and our rates will skyrocket or we have rolling blackouts. So his statement has some truth to it. I just wish they'd leave this stuff to engineers instead of liberals who think wind and solar are new and emerging technologies.
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04-03-2019, 02:28 PM #173
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04-04-2019, 01:15 AM #175
Solar has, in principle, the exact same problem as wind, even though solar is more predictable. Add both solar and wind to the electricity grid, and you'll have an extremely complex electricity production interaction, which makes it really hard to adjust supply and demand (large deviations could lead to rolling blackouts or damaged equipment). Wind and solar can provide us with some of the energy we need, but they are too unreliable to fully supply us. Long term this will be solved with more efficient storage and/or large transregional grids, but these are decades away.
Trump was right. Wind power only works when there is wind. Electricity can't be stored efficiently and for a reasonable price.
https://www.vox.com/2016/2/10/109608...rgy-duck-curve
https://www.technologyreview.com/s/6...n-up-the-grid/
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04-04-2019, 08:07 AM #177
That's probably better suited to an electricity grid based on renewable energy sources. The problem is that every grid in the western world is built on a top down approach, that has evolved over many decades. Our entire society is built on it. I don't see how we could restructure our energy system, without causing massive economic problems. Fact is, renewable energy can be added to the system in an efficient manner, up until some threshold. What is that threshold? I don't know. But at some critical point, the costs far outweigh the benefits (including co2 emission cuts). Anyone who thinks the US for instance can be supplied by renewable energy alone is clueless. At least for the next 2-3 decades.
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Tide goes in, tide goes out. Never a miscommunication. You can’t explain that. You can’t explain why the tide goes in.How you gonna rip it like that son? I don't play that, cause its action, I go... pat, pat, pat 'cause i'm black son! That's right, i'm the black sheep, the real black sheep. I'm the black sheep, the real black sheep. I'm the black sheep, the real black sheep.
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