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    Cholesterol Help ! - Grain Brain, Keto, Plant Paradox ?

    Hey,

    Following a mixture of Plant paradox, Grain Brain ( Dr Perlmutter ) and Keto Diet. I have been on this diet for 4-5 months, I have one cheat day per week.

    I am very fit and when I started this type of diet I was about average in bodyfat, I have lost considerable body fat since.

    In short, just had bloods back and my total Cholesterol is 6.2 mmol/l

    LDL 4.45 mmol/l
    HDL 1.37 mmol/l

    I guess what concerns me the most is my LDL. Here is a snapshot of a typical day in my diet:

    Morning:

    8.00am -

    2 fried eggs ( extra virgin olive oil) with Spinach and 1 avocado, all soaked in extra virgin olive oil and a bit of sea salt with a Black coffee with 1 table spoon of C8 MCT oil. Water.

    9.30am -

    Black coffee

    10.30am -

    Two handfuls of Pistachios


    Lunch:

    12.30pm -

    Organic Free range chicken breast, mixed veg cooked in coconut oil (mostly Broccoli , asparagus, kale, spinach, leeks) coconut milk, turmeric) half a sweet potato or konjac noodles.

    3.30pm-

    Two handful of Pistachios, dark chocolate or some type of natural protein ball ( includes dates ) or 1 avocado.

    4.00 pm-

    Black coffee 1 table spoon C8 MCT oil.

    6.00pm workout + ON Amino Energy two scoops

    Evening:

    8.30pm

    Dinner - Veg stirfry: cooked in coconut oil, Shallots, Garlic, Ginger, Turmeric, Leeks, Asparagus, Spinach, Kale, Broccoli, Mushrooms) sometimes had half a sweet potato or Konjac noodles, half can of Coconut Milk, Balsamic glaze. Sometimes add Prawns or Haddock or Salmon

    Black Decaffeinated coffee


    Supplements:

    Vitamin D - 2000-4000 UI
    Organic Turmeric, Ginger & Blackpepper
    Fish oil 3 tabs 1000mg
    Blackwrack - on occasions where I consume more lectins
    Probiotics


    My guess is the coconut oil and MCT has driven high LDL levels, although I have only been on MCT for 6 days prior to the blood test.

    Would love for peoples opinion on the LDL levels.

    To note - on this diet, I have lost a lot of body fat.

    Thanks
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    you really need to change your sources of nutritional information...
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    Originally Posted by AdamWW View Post
    you really need to change your sources of nutritional information...
    Well to be honest, I am doing this diet based on trail an error. The LDL was a curve ball I did't expect.

    re. sources, Dr Perlmutter is spot on with most areas relating to diet IMO, which is typically opting for a more plant based, healthy fat, high fibre diet.
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    Yes your LDL-C is high and that's concerning.

    Diet can make a significant impact on your LDL-C. Replace saturated fats with unsaturated fats and increase soluble fiber consumption are the most important steps.
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    Originally Posted by AdamWW View Post
    you really need to change your sources of nutritional information...
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    Ditch that MCT oil. Thought that fad died in the 90s. You are basically putting coconut oil on your coconut oil. Replace all that coconut oil with some quality olive oil. And have some oatmeal for breakfast. Those 2 things alone should help.
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    Replacing coconut oil with olive oil will help but replacing it with PUFA should be more powerful for lowering LDL.

    And Adam is right, Grain Brain and Plant Paradox are junk science.
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    Originally Posted by Mrpb View Post
    Replacing coconut oil with olive oil will help but replacing it with PUFA should be more powerful for lowering LDL.

    And Adam is right, Grain Brain and Plant Paradox <and any other “witty” named diet> are junk science.
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