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    best pre workout for focus?

    looking for a new pre workout to help with focus ive heard good things about blackstone labs dust. any suggestions?
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    Originally Posted by KCMann View Post
    looking for a new pre workout to help with focus any suggestions?
    Vapor One is our recent Pre (high stim)
    More-so geared towards energy/pump, but it certainly gets the job done
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    Originally Posted by KCMann View Post
    looking for a new pre workout to help with focus any suggestions?
    Orange Brainwash


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    Originally Posted by danielmoo View Post
    SNS Focus XT newest formula
    The one that uses NALT in a blend and 1g of ALCAR?

    I am making sure I am looking at an accurate formula.
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    Originally Posted by powercage View Post
    The one that uses NALT in a blend and 1g of ALCAR?

    I am making sure I am looking at an accurate formula.
    Yes that is the new formula.
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    Originally Posted by KCMann View Post
    looking for a new pre workout to help with focus ive heard good things about blackstone labs dust. any suggestions?
    Caffeine + Good Music + Visualised Goals
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    Originally Posted by powercage View Post
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    SNS Focus XT newest formula
    These would be my two choices, with preference towards Orange Brainwash
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    Caffeine + Good Music + Visualised Goals
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    Originally Posted by SAJ52 View Post
    Yes that is the new formula.
    Sucks that they changed the original Focus XT, that was a great formula.

    Like most great formulas, they tend to cost more than they make I suppose :/
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    Originally Posted by powercage View Post
    Sucks that they changed the original Focus XT, that was a great formula.

    Like most great formulas, they tend to cost more than they make I suppose :/
    I personally think the new formula is an upgrade. Reduced prop blend (I say reduced because the choline complexity and tyrosine complex is a mystery), inclusion of Taurine, Theanine, Theacrine, Lutin.

    Would be nice to get rid of NALT and Choline Bitartrate
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    Didn't know they changed the formula on Focus XT o.o not bought it in a while since I still have a tub of the old fruit punch on hand I guess :X


    Orange Brainwash is fantastic my favorite atm and it's also on sale right now buy 1 get 1 50% off

    Another good focus supplement I liked that have on hand is Biotest's Brain Candy, pretty convenient little shots.
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    Lot's of good focus products mentioned, but if you want more of an all around PWO w a strong focus, I'd recommend PES Prolific.


    Edit: Vapor x mentioned above is a complete PWO as well, and I enjoyed the two samples I had.
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    What exactly are you looking for OP, because you mentioning Dust doesn't lead me to believe you're looking for what everyone else is thinking?


    Most of the mentions ITT are for nootropic products and not preworkouts. You could always get a nootropic product and add in other ergogens (i.e. +4g l-citrulline, GMS, or etc. etc.). Are you just looking for a strong pre?
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    Originally Posted by KCMann View Post
    looking for a new pre workout to help with focus ive heard good things about blackstone labs dust. any suggestions?
    Controlled Labs Orange Brainwash (not primarily a pre workout, I sometimes add citrulline to it as a pre).

    PES Prolific always seems to do a little better than you'd think looking at the label, including focus, can't go wrong
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    Originally Posted by mtpaquette View Post
    What exactly are you looking for OP, because you mentioning Dust doesn't lead me to believe you're looking for what everyone else is thinking?


    Most of the mentions ITT are for nootropic products and not preworkouts. You could always get a nootropic product and add in other ergogens (i.e. +4g l-citrulline, GMS, or etc. etc.). Are you just looking for a strong pre?
    my main concern is increased focus, a good pump would also be nice. as far as energy i have never really noticed anything impressive from a pre workout. i ended up picking up some dust x to try out it was on sale for $29 at a local supplement store.
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    Originally Posted by aaronuconn View Post
    I personally think the new formula is an upgrade. Reduced prop blend (I say reduced because the choline complexity and tyrosine complex is a mystery), inclusion of Taurine, Theanine, Theacrine, Lutin.

    Would be nice to get rid of NALT and Choline Bitartrate
    I actually knew the blend of the OG, that's why Im saddened.

    It was a really good nootropic.
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    Originally Posted by powercage View Post
    I actually knew the blend of the OG, that's why Im saddened.

    It was a really good nootropic.
    It got me through college. Solid solid acute effects, and shined with prolonged usage. My biggest gripe is that I wanted to know the ALCAR amount. I always kept bulk ALCAR + Focus XT on hand.

    Nowadays, that much choline would give me brain fog
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    White Flash combined with Orange Brainwash
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    White Flash combined with Orange Brainwash
    I don’t feel 450mg of caffeine is a good suggestion
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    Originally Posted by aaronuconn View Post
    I don’t feel 450mg of caffeine is a good suggestion
    Definitely not recommended to stack them at full servings each. I pick one or the other based on desired amount of caffeine and add citrulline to the Brainwash
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    I do just Brainwash for the gym all the time. Especially leg day.
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    used the dust X for the first time today (1/2 Scoop) it was an off day but i wanted to try it out so i did a quick shoulders/arms/abs day. didn't notice anything crazy as far as energy (maybe a bit better endurance), pumps were pretty good, and focus was great now for a full scoop tomorrow.
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    I personally would suggest white flash. I find the focus to be impeccable plus you get energy, pumps, and overall increase in mood. Orange brainwash is a great premium product for focus as well and is my favourite focus formula. I use it daily.
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    Originally Posted by Synapsin View Post
    I personally would suggest white flash. I find the focus to be impeccable plus you get energy, pumps, and overall increase in mood. Orange brainwash is a great premium product for focus as well and is my favourite focus formula. I use it daily.
    focus is very noticeable with White Flash.
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    I'm pretty sure your wrong, but care to elaborate...

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    Originally Posted by powercage View Post
    focus is very noticeable with White Flash.
    You do feel pretty good focus from White Flash and if you would of put 200mg of L-theanine
    in it instead of the 100mg (the right dosage for ALL stimulant products) then it would of
    been ruined so take note other companies 100mg is ALL you need! Now if only CL could
    pull 100mg of L-Theanine out of Brain Wash it would be even better.
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    Originally Posted by superhuman67 View Post
    You do feel pretty good focus from White Flash and if you would of put 200mg of L-theanine
    in it instead of the 100mg (the right dosage for ALL stimulant products) then it would of
    been ruined so take note other companies 100mg is ALL you need! Now if only CL could
    pull 100mg of L-Theanine out of Brain Wash it would be even better.
    nah, thats intentional. It fits that formula perfectly. There is a reason each is dosed the way it is.
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    Originally Posted by powercage View Post
    nah, thats intentional. It fits that formula perfectly. There is a reason each is dosed the way it is.
    I agree, after RPE 10 sets theanine is much appreciated when my hearts pounding and I need to relax and recoup between sets
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