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    Or if you workout in a sauna. Last I checked, sweating had to do with how hot it is not how hard you're working necessarily.
    Yeah...when it's 50-60* in the basement and I'm training for strength I'm pretty sure I get a hard training session in without being drenched in sweat.

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    Hmmmm....That’s pretty much what Fug been saying
    A lot of the more knowledgeable vets would say that.. biased or not. Not magic, NOT for everyone.... but AMAZING compared to the latest greatest garbage on here that IS hyped up.

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    Originally Posted by Farley1324 View Post
    Yeah...when it's 50-60* in the basement and I'm training for strength I'm pretty sure I get a hard training session in without being drenched in sweat.
    Actually nope, that doesn't sound very intense at all

    Could be a perfectly decent workout, and I've been there done that too.... and that is not at all what I'm talking about.

    Hell if you are training for just strength alone I'd skip the BCAA's anyways !!

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    Originally Posted by TheFugitive View Post
    Busted @ss in the gym tonight for 90 minutes, those 10 grams of BCAAs did me good
    Nice, I decent session myself today but only took 5g, you must be rich to go double scooping it lol.

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    Eating a jacket potato will increase blood glucose levels. Eating glucose tablets will increase blood glucose levels, but the two aren't identical in that you get a faster hit of blood glucose from the glucose tablets.

    Eating eggs and drinking milk (casein especially but also the whey, and other "good" foods) will give you all the BCAAs you require in your diet, but BCAA supplement will give a faster spike as you don't have to digest (break the proteins up into amino acids with stomach acid). Is the speed/spike of BCAA significant in any way? That's the $Million question.

    Maybe if you are a pro bodybuilder at the edge of your physical potential consuming BCAAs before/during/immediately after just might give some tiny help. For me... it'll likely be utterly insignificant and I no longer consider buying BCAA (but if they were free...? what's there to loose? ).Might they help You... depends on how close to your genetic potential you are.

    Before we all get really emotional and angry on the topic, please can everyone read the sticky on the 80:20 rule, take a few deep breaths and thing REALLY CALM ****** THOUGHTS! (I was never very good at this meditation stuff ). This is definitely in the territory of the things that make the smallest differences.
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    Originally Posted by OldFartTom View Post
    (but if they were free...? what's there to loose?
    Could be detrimental, have a read

    (here you go CM)

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    Originally Posted by Farley1324 View Post
    Could be detrimental, have a read

    (here you go CM)

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    Originally Posted by TheFugitive View Post
    Emotional posts are worse than clinical posts
    At least appreciate the attempt.... it’s been 3-4 years now, I have yet to see a peptide-bcaa study and how it’s better
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    At least appreciate the attempt.... it’s been 3-4 years now, I have yet to see a peptide-bcaa study and how it’s better
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    Originally Posted by LoudyRowdy View Post
    At least appreciate the attempt.... it’s been 3-4 years now, I have yet to see a peptide-bcaa study and how it’s better
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    Originally Posted by TheFugitive View Post
    Busted @ss in the gym tonight for 90 minutes, those 10 grams of BCAAs did me good
    Are these forum clowns serious in this thread ? What a joke.... if people are hatin on BCAA and Leucine LMAO.... thats a wrap, shut it down and turn off the power... no wonder this forum is dead as f now

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    Originally Posted by pu12en12g View Post
    Are these forum clowns serious in this thread ? What a joke.... if people are hatin on BCAA and Leucine LMAO.... thats a wrap, shut it down and turn off the power... no wonder this forum is dead as f now

    Wait wait wait....


    Where were you when you were repping CL and the forum was hating on BCAAs?
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    Wait wait wait....


    Where were you when you were repping CL and the forum was hating on BCAAs?
    There was a small minority of the idiots back then... literally, if anyone sees BCAA/EAA/Leucine as not effective... shut everything down, there is nothing left to talk about.. a HIGH PROTEIN DIET should be assumed in here, which means EAA vs. BCAA vs. LEUCINE is NOTHING more than a PERSONAL PREFERENCE

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    a HIGH PROTEIN DIET should be assumed in here, which means EAA vs. BCAA vs. LEUCINE is NOTHING more than a PERSONAL PREFERENCE
    Personal preference, because the high protein diet has them all covered already, yes. So, which one flavors your water better?

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    Personal preference, because the high protein diet has them all covered already, yes. So, which one flavors your water better?
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    Originally Posted by pu12en12g View Post
    Are these forum clowns serious in this thread ? What a joke.... if people are hatin on BCAA and Leucine LMAO.... thats a wrap, shut it down and turn off the power... no wonder this forum is dead as f now
    They now feel BCAAs are detrimental, but they all drink protein powder because the label states 5g of BCAAs per serving
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    Originally Posted by TheFugitive View Post
    They now feel BCAAs are detrimental, but they all drink protein powder because the label states 5g of BCAAs per serving


    Because BCAAs are naturally occuring... I would still eat my chicken if the chicken breast label at Walmart said 5g of BCAA per serving. Most labels don't read "BCAAs added", because they're already naturally occuring. None of use are buying protein powder solely because the label states that. Noobs know the term "BCAA" it's a marketing gimmick.
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    Originally Posted by mtpaquette View Post
    Because BCAAs are naturally occuring... I would still eat my chicken if the chicken breast label at Walmart said 5g of BCAA per serving. Most labels don't read "BCAAs added", because they're already naturally occuring. None of use are buying protein powder solely because the label states that. Noobs know the term "BCAA" it's a marketing gimmick.
    I'll let you in on a little secret, BCAAs from foods and protein powders digest at a very slow rate. Free form aminos are instantly available. Stay anabolic...

    Also, your protein label clearly states, HIGH in BCAAs so they must be important or is this only intended for Noobs?
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    Originally Posted by TheFugitive View Post
    I'll let you in on a little secret, BCAAs from foods and protein powders digest at a very slow rate. Free form aminos are instantly available. Stay anabolic...

    Also, your protein label clearly states, HIGH in BCAAs so they must be important or is this only intended for Noobs?

    And for the general public nutrient timing is relevant for what? The body is in a never ending anabolic/catabolic state. There are always going to be substrates being built and broken down. It would take the body days to get into a fully catabolic state. You're simultaneously over and underestimating the capability of the human body.




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    Originally Posted by pu12en12g View Post
    There was a small minority of the idiots back then... literally, if anyone sees BCAA/EAA/Leucine as not effective... shut everything down, there is nothing left to talk about.. a HIGH PROTEIN DIET should be assumed in here, which means EAA vs. BCAA vs. LEUCINE is NOTHING more than a PERSONAL PREFERENCE

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    Originally Posted by mtpaquette View Post
    Because BCAAs are naturally occuring... I would still eat my chicken if the chicken breast label at Walmart said 5g of BCAA per serving. Most labels don't read "BCAAs added", because they're already naturally occuring. None of use are buying protein powder solely because the label states that. Noobs know the term "BCAA" it's a marketing gimmick.
    Originally Posted by mtpaquette View Post
    And for the general public nutrient timing is relevant for what? The body is in a never ending anabolic/catabolic state. There are always going to be substrates being built and broken down. It would take the body days to get into a fully catabolic state. You're simultaneously over and underestimating the capability of the human body.




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    No difference when i workout without BCAA's but many have 100mg caffeine in it..so in that sense. it does helps a lil bit as intra-workout supplement.. most of the time its just a placebo effect. and waste of 0,90 euro cents a scoop..
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    Originally Posted by LoudyRowdy View Post
    So did you and Powercage argued about BCAAs in the CL war room?
    There is the research, then there are feels.

    The research is pretty clear what happens once you control for protein in the diet.

    Originally Posted by OT2000 View Post
    There isn’t anyone on here working out until they puke.

    That **** sounded like a Jacob Wilson study
    Working out until you almost puke is not smart to begin with when you take recovery and volume over time into consideration. It slows progress.
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    Threads like this are why I stopped posting here. People need to do their research. Y'all just parrot something another person who didn't do their research said and look like damn *******s.
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    Originally Posted by mtpaquette View Post
    And for the general public nutrient timing is relevant for what? The body is in a never ending anabolic/catabolic state. There are always going to be substrates being built and broken down. It would take the body days to get into a fully catabolic state. You're simultaneously over and underestimating the capability of the human body.




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    Yes, the majority of the time the body is breaking down versus building, and this is where BCAAs are beneficial. An anabolic environment is the goal correct?
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    Threads like this are why I stopped posting here. People need to do their research. Y'all just parrot something another person who didn't do their research said and look like damn *******s.
    Science and a weight bar don't have much in common IMO
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    Originally Posted by DiabeticLifter View Post
    Threads like this are why I stopped posting here. People need to do their research. Y'all just parrot something another person who didn't do their research said and look like damn *******s.
    Link to your bcaa research?


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    Originally Posted by Farley1324 View Post
    Link to your bcaa research?
    I mentioned to him that his comment is ambiguous so he clarified. He's in agreement with our stance.
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