Females in a Combat Zone

[BullittEV]

z4v4: How could a bloody tampon possibly be a problem for female troops in a combat zone??????

And yup, still not an issue.

Does anyone else here agree with the resident RPer/miserable anti-Trumper/SJW, etc.. that the sentiment that bloody tampons are a non-issue in a combat zone?
(Forget all the logistical, training, personal issues that come with females in the military)

JW- if you do- a very simple logical explanation can be given here. The only requirement is that you be open minded to agreeing with someone that has different political views about a subject matter they have expertise on.

[compan]

I feel like TSS would actually be a problem

[Tears]

I’m only cool with it if I can bang them. If not, then no

[BullittEV]

I feel like TSS would actually be a problem

They would obviously have to remove the tampon and do something with it. I doubt they would allow TSS to happen. They need to be physically effective.

[dakensta]

You gents do know women can halt their periods indefinitely if necessary?
Of course you do, men of the world, ladies' men that you are.

[NuggzTheNinja]

In b4 "but the Israelis."

No, they really don't put women in combat.

[Dave22reborn]

People want women in combat......until they're actually in combat.

[BullittEV]

You gents do know women can halt their periods indefinitely if necessary?
Of course you do, men of the world, ladies' men that you are.

Is there a reason you are not going into detail?

Women can not all just say "Ok, periods will stop now."

Don't make stupid arguments because you don't like what I am saying.

People want women in combat......until they're actually in combat.

Yes, that's another topic, though. Would just like to see if anyone else is as autistic or partisan as z4v4, so we can kill all the birds with one stone.

[Bassackwards]

if women want crotch rot, then more power to them. the butt sweat and funk from a few days in the sand box is bad enough; now add in MRE chits and it gets pretty disgusting fast.... now add in menstruation? oh lawd thats going to be disgusting.

women arent going to have the luxury to wash up their vagines or change out their pads/tampons while in combat, patrols, convoys, etc. they are basically asking for a UTI and septic

[ImBunky]

Only thing I could think of is if dogs could be used to give away position. Have no idea if this could be the case.

[Tamorlane]

I don’t get the issue with periods and combat zones.

My opinion is if there is strict physical requirements and a woman can pass them and effectively fight in combat then go ahead.

I’d rather have someone trying to shoot my enemy next to me who is competent not just there because they breathe. If the woman is a better soldier than the man then take the woman.

Of course this is rarer and men are biologically more suited for combat.

[Dave22reborn]

I don’t get the issue with periods and combat zones.

My opinion is if there is strict physical requirements and a woman can pass them and effectively fight in combat then go ahead.

I’d rather have someone trying to shoot my enemy next to me who is competent not just there because they breathe. If the woman is a better soldier than the man then take the woman.

Of course this is rarer and men are biologically more suited for combat.

Are they going to be co-ed units, or segregated units?

[dakensta]

Is there a reason you are not going into detail?

Women can not all just say "Ok, periods will stop now."

Don't make stupid arguments because you don't like what I am saying.

You mean you don't know? Ask your wife/girlfriend.

[InstantLoser]

They would obviously have to remove the tampon and do something with it. I doubt they would allow TSS to happen. They need to be physically effective.

But then they'd need to be men..

[canonhope]

why do we really care? taking a chit is everyday, and nobody says anything about that.

Send them in. I don't care. Better yet, send the ones with the most raging PMS. Super soldiers.

[RamataKahn]

why do we really care? taking a chit is everyday, and nobody says anything about that.

Send them in. I don't care. Better yet, send the ones with the most raging PMS. Super soldiers.

Women in combat zones period are an issue.

[RamataKahn]

If the woman is a better soldier than the man then take the woman.

They aren't, nor are they as good,

[keyboardworkout]

Israelis tried females on the front lines and found that when females were killed, unit morale fell to the point they were no longer a viable fighting force.

[RamataKahn]

I don’t get the issue with periods and combat zones.

Symptoms of Menstrual Bleeding Iron Deficiency
During menstruation, a woman may feel a wide variety of uncomfortable symptoms, including bloating, irritability, and acne breakouts. Some conditions may indicate a more serious problem that should be discussed with a doctor. These are some of the most common symptoms of menstrual bleeding iron deficiency in women of childbearing age.

Extreme and unexplainable fatigue
Pale skin
Inability to concentrate
Mental fogginess
Uncommon mood swings

http://www.fergon.com/menstrual-cycles-iron-levels/

[habibtizz]

Kurds do well with women in combat. Just don't put male-centric expectations on women, and they'll do fine.

[AgRyan]

I've jacked off on patrol before while standing guard to stay awake about 5 feet from another guy doing the same thing. I've walked in on guys in my unit jacking off before because sometimes you just have to tell them something and you can't go around to every sleeping area and be like "hey bro, are you decent or jacking off?" before entering, you just gotta go for it. So yeah, if there were girls there, 100% would get pregnant. Even the ones on birth control. They will 100% fuk instead of performing guard duties.

My unit was one of the first ones to integrate women into paper-pushing roles, we got two in order to work in the offices of our company. I literally never even saw either of them because they got pregnant so fast.

[RamataKahn]

Kurds do well with women in combat. Just don't put male-centric expectations on women, and they'll do fine.

Too bad war will put combat-centric expectations on them, and they won't meet them.

[BullittEV]

You mean you don't know? Ask your wife/girlfriend.

What is with some of you posters these days? Have you just been beaten down with arguments and realize all your negativity towards Trump is just personal so you resort to trolling? Make an argument.

I don’t get the issue with periods and combat zones.

My opinion is if there is strict physical requirements and a woman can pass them and effectively fight in combat then go ahead.

I’d rather have someone trying to shoot my enemy next to me who is competent not just there because they breathe. If the woman is a better soldier than the man then take the woman.

Of course this is rarer and men are biologically more suited for combat.

You are also in the same boat as z4v4. One main issue is tracking. The entire point, and what we train for, is to stay hidden.

But then they'd need to be men..

I mean if they were to have an all female unit, theyd need to maximize physical activity, whether or not they can handle it. TSS would degrade their status from 100%

[Bushmaster]

The Navy is having to swallow this pill too lol..

Baby Aboard: The Navy Responds to High Rates of Unplanned Pregnancies Among Sailors...

https://rewire.news/article/2013/01/...among-sailors/

Young hormone saturated men and women locked up on ships out to sea for months at a time... now what could possibly go wrong with that?

Discussions like these make me miss Nutsy lol. Homeboy was one of the most staunch - and I mean STAUNCH conservatives here - until it came to women, homos or trannies in the military.

[NuggzTheNinja]

Kurds do well with women in combat. Just don't put male-centric expectations on women, and they'll do fine.

The Kurds don't really have a choice. These are people with their backs against a wall, whereas the US has a professional volunteer military. Completely different situation...we don't NEED women in combat roles, but we are being told that we do in order to satisfy SJW political agendas.

[dakensta]

What is with some of you posters these days? Have you just been beaten down with arguments and realize all your negativity towards Trump is just personal so you resort to trolling? Make an argument.

"Because icky periods" is not a valid reason to ban females from combat. The contraceptive pill or contraceptive implants will stop menstruation indefinitely. As Shakakhan would say, it's not an argument. Think of a better one.

[BullittEV]

"Because icky periods" is not a valid reason to ban females from combat. The contraceptive pill or contraceptive implants will stop menstruation indefinitely. As Shakakhan would say, it's not an argument. Think of a better one.

Did you read the original post ITT? I already stated that it's not about females in combat, it's in regards to why females that menstruate would cause a problem in a combat zone. Do you understand it's not just because they are "icky." lol

If you want to talk birth control, sure, some women have their periods stop on birth control. Want to get into the logistics of that alone? What if she loses the pills? What if they run out? What if it doesn't work for some women? Are they going to go through some testing with birth control like a bodily experiment? Stay in the lane of the topic.

[Tamorlane]

You are also in the same boat as z4v4. One main issue is tracking. The entire point, and what we train for, is to stay hidden.

I'm not really in a boat. If pressed to look hard at the issue I would want to see what the experts and leaders in the field think about it and why.

I don't see how tracking due to menstruation would be disqualifying. Does a soldier who has body odor get discharged?

Do you have any sources for your argument about tracking women in combat through their period?

[BullittEV]

I'm not really in a boat. If pressed to look hard at the issue I would want to see what the experts and leaders in the field think about it and why.

I don't see how tracking due to menstruation would be disqualifying. Does a soldier who has body odor get discharged?

Do you have any sources for your argument about tracking women in combat through their period?

Video: Mattis playing PC games, and saying women have been on the front lines. Again, with your literal zero knowledge on this subject matter, he is referring to FET. Female Engagement Teams who are attached to infantry units. They were created because of the culture differences of searching people. The Muslim men were very offended by having males searching their women.

Almost 100% of my opinion, others opinions of these teams is exactly what you'd expect. They are incompetent. You don't realize how tough it gets to move around in 50-75lbs of gear/ + 50-75 with a ruck on movement all day. FET was an absolute hindrance.

Source: An actual study was done with Marine units- all male, mixed, all female. The all male decimated the all female. That's just from physical standpoints. Include the logistical, emotional and social issues and youre even more fukked as far as combat effectiveness.

Body odor isn't what is tracked, it's the dead cells that create that odor. Some sort of cleaning solution (babywipes, sanitizer, etc) would take care of that. Ok, worst case situation- you dont have ANY sort of this- you would have found yourself in enemy territory for a prolonged period of time, which would mean they already know youre there. There is nothing you can do about body odor for anyone, it's across the board. There is something you can do about mitigating your risk, and that's by not having a bleeding wound once a month.

I need a source to tell you that any tracker will find a bloody tampon very quickly? Women do not have control of their periods. It could happen as soon as the body decides it's ready. Are you just deluded because of my username or you truly dont understand this?

[Bassackwards]

The Navy is having to swallow this pill too lol..



Young hormone saturated men and women locked up on ships out to sea for months at a time... now what could possibly go wrong with that?

Discussions like these make me miss Nutsy lol. Homeboy was one of the most staunch - and I mean STAUNCH conservatives here - until it came to women, homos or trannies in the military.

this is a touchy subject for the navy. navy leadership wants to show how diverse the navy is when it comes to minorities and women but there is a price to pay. when sailors are assigned to a ship or squadron, the navy is hoping to get their first term (enlistment) before they roll onto a shore command. basically, first term sailors could serve anywhere from 3-5 years to a ship/squadron. when a chick gets pregnant, she is no longer deployable and is removed from the ship. so if her work station has 10 people, the workload is spread through the remaining 9 people. people may not think thats not a big deal, but when you are underway and working everyday, 7 days a week, and manning drills and watch stations, thats an added burden that takes a toll on people. now imagine that happening to several women on a deploying ship? women are basically adding risk to mission success because they are shoving their workload to other people. the crazy thing is that the navy also gives them a generous amount of maternity leave, so the 9 month pregnancy, plus 12 weeks maternity leave could be a year away from the unit. and when they return, they basically pick up where they left off in there career. i read in some briefs that navy unplanned pregnancy rates at 2013 were at 74%, so basically 3 out of 4 women may be non-deployable. sadly there are women (small and few) who do 20 years and never deploy. they get assigned to a ship, get pregnant, get the credit of being on a ship, roll onto shore duty, and get knocked up assigned to another deploying unit, rinse and repeat; its far and few but it happens. leadership cant questions them about family planning and you cant force women to be on birth control.

not that there is anything wrong with women serving, i just feel that the military goes out of their way to recruit, retain, and promote women, for the sake of diversity, and gets little in return on their investment.