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    She's right in that the current republican platform will never allow a republican to become president after 2020. Having said that, the republican party will most likely shift its platform more to the center or center left kind of like the progressive conservatives in Canada, who are basically center to center left.

    Basically - this country is going to the left due to immigration, and there's nothing you can do about it. Save your money while times are good and prepare yourself. Those things you enjoy, such as having plenty of disposable income on a percentage basis, will be no more.
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    Originally Posted by hoganrulz View Post
    how can one assume every immigrant, legal or illegal is not a conservative?

    with the emphasis on legal immigrant.
    Immigrants tend to flock to cities, cities are largely blue + Jews, Muslims, Asians, Blacks and Hispanics lean to the left when it comes to votes even when their priorities aren’t aligned (see: minorities in CA being mostly democrat but voting down prop 8)

    I’m also pretty sure white libs are leaving the left coast and moving to red states but keeping their politics
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    So no MAGA then?

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    Originally Posted by Maestro View Post
    I'm sure there are many that are, but by and large you walk up to one on the street, and you ask them their political affiliation, they're gonna say democrat, or they may have conservative values but still vote for the democrat in the general election because immigration is a more serious of an issue to them, and no matter how chitty the economy supposedly gets under a democrat, it will never be as bad as where they fled from (Whether its Mexico or Africa or the ME). I'm in NM so I know a lot of legal residents that want their illegal relatives to come here.....within a year or 6 months time, not a decade (on average) of waiting.
    Originally Posted by 128 View Post
    Immigrants tend to flock to cities, cities are largely blue + Jews, Muslims, Asians, Blacks and Hispanics lean to the left when it comes to votes even when their priorities aren’t aligned (see: minorities in CA being mostly democrat but voting down prop 8)

    I’m also pretty sure white libs are leaving the left coast and moving to red states but keeping their politics
    do you think there ever will be a time where immigrants' conservative values matches up with their political affiliations?

    Or is it just a case where 2nd/3rd gen children of migrants may change political affiliation when they basically consider themselves American, rather than, children of immigrants in America?
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    Originally Posted by DukeOfWoodBerry View Post
    Flood the country with people that hate America. promise them welfare for their families for life, free healthcare from a system that will no longer function due to Democratic Party rules and viola, The new Venezuela
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    good. The Republican Party is comprised of insecure cucks and brain dead losers (lol McCain) just as bad as the libtards who cling to their pathetic agendas. We need a new American Patriot Party
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    Originally Posted by scheal View Post
    Flood the country with people that hate Americapromise them welfare for their families for life, free healthcare from a system that will no longer function due to Democratic Party rules and viola. The new Venezuela
    It's such a joke to act like the government is spending all your tax money on welfare for lazy people. And of course all those lazy people receiving this welfare are 100% non white. It's such a racist, distorted view it's laughable. Especially watching all you idiots reinforce your confirmation bias with each other.

    I don't understand how any rational person could stand you in real life? You're a running joke in your social/professional circle there's no doubt about that.
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    Originally Posted by VinnyPazRules View Post
    It's such a joke to act like the government is spending all your tax money on welfare for lazy people. And of course all those lazy people receiving this welfare are 100% non white. It's such a racist, distorted view it's laughable. Especially watching all you idiots reinforce your confirmation bias with each other.

    I don't understand how any rational person could stand you in real life? You're a running joke in your social/professional circle there's no doubt about that.
    And you are a gender neutral liberal. did you see the vermin coming here from South America?

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    Originally Posted by hoganrulz View Post
    do you think there ever will be a time where immigrants' conservative values matches up with their political affiliations?

    Or is it just a case where 2nd/3rd gen children of migrants may change political affiliation when they basically consider themselves American, rather than, children of immigrants in America?
    Yes it's happening right now. All these Trump cucks are children of immigrants that have forgotten their history and feel entitled to this country..
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    Originally Posted by scheal View Post
    And you are a gender neutral liberal

    A freak in society. Part of the lower class scum that hate this country
    Haha classic deflection. I know it's hard for you to face your insecurities so you project them on to me.


    Hahaha you're so triggered, that comment you left really hurt my feelings. I'm sure you can find some fellow brain dead cult members around here to make you feel better.
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    The current Republican platform is mostly broadly unpopular: constant tax cuts for the top, endless military interventionism abroad, relaxing of labor standards, and being tough on immigration.

    Of course such a decrepit platform should not win, currently, the "tough on immigration" part appeals to nationalists who tend to vote for it. That relative proportion will reduce with more immigration, in that Coulter is right.

    However, that doesn't have to be the GOP platform for ever. Perhaps they can think of a platform that has more broad appeal, and includes immigration controls, and they might have more luck in the future.
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    Originally Posted by SillieBazzillie View Post
    Weird how she didn't mention the other demographic shifts crushing conservatives. The country is getting more educated, less religious, and younger. All things antithisis to conservative thought.

    Trump will be crushed in 2020 and that will be that for the nationalist movement in this country. We can then get onto the business of competing where we actually have an inherent advantage, in education.
    Libs have been stacking the "education system" for decades and it's been detrimental to our nation as a whole. Nobody with a brain wants more of that. Sad that you're proud of people who major in gender studies, then have to pay off 100k in debt with their Starbucks salary.
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    Coulter- GOP on verge of extinction, Trump will be last Republican President
    It won't quite be like that but the right will win elections at a decreasing rate.

    With the power they attain the left will create an society where most people will vote left believing that if they don't their life and health are at risk.

    These people will be convinced that they are free.
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    Originally Posted by ZenBowman View Post
    The current Republican platform is mostly broadly unpopular: constant tax cuts for the top, endless military interventionism abroad, relaxing of labor standards, and being tough on immigration.

    Of course such a decrepit platform should not win, currently, the "tough on immigration" part appeals to nationalists who tend to vote for it. That relative proportion will reduce with more immigration, in that Coulter is right.

    However, that doesn't have to be the GOP platform for ever. Perhaps they can think of a platform that has more broad appeal, and includes immigration controls, and they might have more luck in the future.
    Legal immigration isn’t the same as immigration. Calling this a ‘Country of Immigrants’ leaves out the ‘legal’ part, chief. So Trump being ‘hard on immigration’ really means he wants to enforce the law. It means he wants a country of laws.

    The top 20% of earners pay 86% of Federal income tax. The bottom 50% of earners pay about 2.6% of Federal income tax. How do we cut taxes for those who pay little or no tax, Chief?

    If the platform of the Republican Party is unpopular, then maybe...just maybe...it’s because so many people have been brought up to believe in magic: everything COULD be free if mean old Republicans would just wave the magic Federal wand. And we don’t need borders! We have our magic. Right, chief?

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    It's unecessary fear mongering on Coulter's part but she is right that demographics matter and it will affect the culture and politics of the country in the future especially if it is unrestrained. But Democrats are also underestimating the mindset of immigrants who - a majority of them - do hold conservative and traditional values and it will clash with the whole socially progressive platform that Dems love to run on.
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    Originally Posted by hoganrulz View Post
    do you think there ever will be a time where immigrants' conservative values matches up with their political affiliations?

    Or is it just a case where 2nd/3rd gen children of migrants may change political affiliation when they basically consider themselves American, rather than, children of immigrants in America?
    Not sure.

    By and large, like most people, they're single issue voters, and if something is really important to them they'll vote in favor of it, even if everything else the candidate stands for goes against everything they stand for religiously ideologically and every other suffix-"ly" I can think of.

    but those people have always existed. My aunt is a super crazy religious fanatic, doesn't give a chit about politics, in fact she thinks that only god can govern man and that the government was formed by the devil, but every 4 years she votes for whatever candidate is pro-life without question, and thats the only issue she cares about.
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    Originally Posted by hoganrulz View Post
    do you think there ever will be a time where immigrants' conservative values matches up with their political affiliations?

    Or is it just a case where 2nd/3rd gen children of migrants may change political affiliation when they basically consider themselves American, rather than, children of immigrants in America?
    I think growing up in blue cities and abandoning their parents conservative beliefs for “western values” will only push them further left.


    I mean who is more likely to oppose say same sex marriages, a FOB Muslim or his 3rd gen American grandson who grew up in Brooklyn or San Francisco?
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    But Democrats are also underestimating the mindset of immigrants who - a majority of them - do hold conservative and traditional values
    That’s a pipe dream. Look at all the religious “Catholics” voting for pro-abortion Democrats.
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    The only demographic group Scott won was white voters. Wait till next election when all the felons in Florida can vote. Good luck GOP
    I've wondered about how that will effect Florida next election, allowing convicted felons to vote once out of prison. You might be right. I personally only know of one felon released from prison that will be able to vote next election. She isn't what one would expect. She is quite conservative. I've wondered how many others are similar to her.

    What I'm wondering about is what happened in California with what is being called Ballet Harvesting. After the 2016 election California changed their voting laws considerably. If not familiar with this, here is an article ~

    The stomach-turning 'ballot-harvesting' that enabled Democrats to walk off with California

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    Ive posted this many times, but once again for the retards who believe demographics, etc are not destiny.(voter turnout not withstanding)

    1988: Dukakis got 40% of the white voter which equated to 111 electoral college votes and 10 states won.
    2012: Obama got 39% of the white vote which equated to 333 electoral college votes and 26 states won.

    1988: TOATL VOTES: (R) 49 MILLION // (D) 42 MILLION
    2012: TOTAL VOTES: (R) 61 MILLION // (D) 66 MILLION

    So from 1988 to 2012 (R) had a ~20% increase in new voters(plus 12 million) while the (D) had ~37% increase(plus 24 million) while both parties captured about the same % of the overall white vote.

    If one simply switches the demographic makeup between 1988 and 2012 Dukakis wins and Obama loses. (Obama would never have been nominated in the 1st place)

    What happened within those decades is, tens of millions of hard left immigrant voters have been added to the rolls.
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    They said the same thing in 2008. The problem is that the GOP is trash outside of Trump(who isn't even a Republican) and a few others. In the world of politics, 90% of them sold out for financial gain.
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    Originally Posted by Shortfuze View Post
    It's unecessary fear mongering on Coulter's part but she is right that demographics matter and it will affect the culture and politics of the country in the future especially if it is unrestrained. But Democrats are also underestimating the mindset of immigrants who - a majority of them - do hold conservative and traditional values and it will clash with the whole socially progressive platform that Dems love to run on.
    Unlikely, even sharia law, female mutilating muslims vote for dems because they understand which party will give them the most Free, and which one will let them do what they want without consequence.


    Why do you think the left is trying to shame Asian Americans into joining the intersectional victim pool? The Asian American R candidate in the OC lost to a White Male because the dems are much better at identity and grievance politics than the Rs will ever be.

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    Does anyone recall when Michael Steele was elected RNC chair and tried to *GROW* the party with outreach to other groups. He was smacked back by the party elders, now look what is happening 10 years later.
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    Originally Posted by x-trainer ben View Post
    Does anyone recall when Michael Steele was elected RNC chair and tried to *GROW* the party with outreach to other groups. He was smacked back by the party elders, now look what is happening 10 years later.
    “Grow” by incorporating axioms of the other party? Seems unprincipled to me.
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    Being "republican" doesn't mean anything. Republicans will just pander to whoever they need to get elected (I.E. Jeb!)
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    Being "republican" doesn't mean anything. Republicans will just pander to whoever they need to get elected (I.E. Jeb!)
    It's what all politicians do.
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    its true, the group thats dying are the ones that vote more republican(i think they're the only groups that split up as well) and the ones growing are the ones that vote democrat majority. doesnt take a genius to connect the 2

    Originally Posted by RIKTER View Post
    Ive posted this many times, but once again for the retards who believe demographics, etc are not destiny.(voter turnout not withstanding)

    1988: Dukakis got 40% of the white voter which equated to 111 electoral college votes and 10 states won.
    2012: Obama got 39% of the white vote which equated to 333 electoral college votes and 26 states won.

    1988: TOATL VOTES: (R) 49 MILLION // (D) 42 MILLION
    2012: TOTAL VOTES: (R) 61 MILLION // (D) 66 MILLION

    So from 1988 to 2012 (R) had a ~20% increase in new voters(plus 12 million) while the (D) had ~37% increase(plus 24 million) while both parties captured about the same % of the overall white vote.

    If one simply switches the demographic makeup between 1988 and 2012 Dukakis wins and Obama loses. (Obama would never have been nominated in the 1st place)

    What happened within those decades is, tens of millions of hard left immigrant voters have been added to the rolls.
    don't bother lol that ships sailed anyways


    Originally Posted by Halfway View Post
    Unlikely, even sharia law, female mutilating muslims vote for dems because they understand which party will give them the most Free, and which one will let them do what they want without consequence.


    Why do you think the left is trying to shame Asian Americans into joining the intersectional victim pool? The Asian American R candidate in the OC lost to a White Male because the dems are much better at identity and grievance politics than the Rs will ever be.

    theres a graph that showed 70% of muslims voting for liberals here in canada which surprised me muslims+liberal values
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    its true, the group thats dying are the ones that vote more republican(i think they're the only groups that split up as well) and the ones growing are the ones that vote democrat majority. doesnt take a genius to connect the 2



    don't bother lol that ships sailed anyways




    theres a graph that showed 70% of muslims voting for liberals here in canada which surprised me muslims+liberal values
    My Canadian father in law always votes Liberal, even though he is usually on the opposite side of every issue from Trudeau.

    As a skilled immigrant he doesn't want migrants coming, hates taxes, doesn't like any of the SJW bs and would be called a sexist, racist bigot if he wasn't non-white.

    He's a great example of a upper middle class professional immigrant consistantly voting against his own interests.
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