ergonine?

[wasp9166]

this not made by pes anymore? not seeing it here

[aloosecannon]

this not made by pes anymore? not seeing it here

Sadly, it was discontinued.

[DinoT1985]

Unfortunately they discontinued it. Great product not the majority of the public didn't understand the benefits so it didn't sell well. Very expensive formula to keep manufacturing without return.

[wasp9166]

jfc, everytime i find a product i like to drink intra (i know, can be drank anytime but aside from pump that's when i drink it ) it fkn disappears

first intrabolic

now ergonine

so


i have creatine i can add myself so no biggie on that


i want something with agmatine and betaine to start with , and don't mind mixing two products

no stims tho

so what shall i try now lol

[DinoT1985]

Have a look at Performax Labs IntraMax but that too is being discontinued lol.

[kbayne]

Yes, unfortunately, it was DQ'ed.

[eatyourspinach]

From the looks of it the next best thing IForce Finish Line is being discontinued as well

[DASBUNKER]

New muscletech creabuild looks like a solid option

creatine
betaine
cindura

[wasp9166]

Have a look at Performax Labs IntraMax but that too is being discontinued lol.

From the looks of it the next best thing IForce Finish Line is being discontinued as well

lol wth

[hiimnotcool]

Does Olympus Labs still make Tr1umph? That stuff was a good all in one supplement when I used it.


Edit: guess that's discontinued also. Lol, you'd think those type of supplements would be the most popular considering it hits almost all the bases but people just want a bunch of protein powders, stimulant blends and less proven ingredients.

Guess buying in bulk and making your own is the best bet now. It's cheaper anyway but kinda gets tedious measuring things out to the gram every day.

[powercage]

The best formulas tend to get discontinued because the general public is not versed in supplement quality. Sad fact.


Fads like BCAAs do well because they are cheap to make/easy to flavor and can therefore be marketted easily.

[wasp9166]

so, nothing out there with betaine and agmatine anymore then?

[eatyourspinach]

so, nothing out there with betaine and agmatine anymore then?

ergonine didn't have agmatine, finaflex max pump is just betaine and agmatine but it's not a drink

[Anthony21]

jfc, everytime i find a product i like to drink intra (i know, can be drank anytime but aside from pump that's when i drink it ) it fkn disappears

first intrabolic

now ergonine

so


i have creatine i can add myself so no biggie on that


i want something with agmatine and betaine to start with , and don't mind mixing two products

no stims tho

so what shall i try now lol

At least PES is still in business. AE just completely disappeared.

[wasp9166]

ergonine didn't have agmatine, finaflex max pump is just betaine and agmatine but it's not a drink

i would mix it with high volume

[Synapsin]

so, nothing out there with betaine and agmatine anymore then?

Look into green might by controlled labs. Full dose of creatine, taurine, pomegranate (for endurance benefits), tart cherry (for recovery purposes), and coca bean. We have betaine and agmatine in white flash btw.

[wasp9166]

seems to be only all in one non stim with agmatine and betaine

https://www.bodybuilding.com/store/n...=NUTRAB4460114

least by my search

[dougefresh93]

try Big Noise from Redcon1